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[mirakal]

By word itself they are not allowed to register if they are in restricted regions that really means that they cannot bypass those restriction by using VPN.

it's very clear in the TOS if we take time to read it, the rules are very specific, we cannot twist it just to justify what we are planning to do as correct and allowed.

https://2up.io/policy/terms-of-service

2.1.2. You must not use the Website, if you reside in a country in which access to online gambling to its residents or to any person within such country is prohibited.

2.1.3. You are not allowed to register on the Website and use our services if you are a resident of the following restricted jurisdictions:

Australia
Curacao
Iran
Iraq
North Korea
Singapore
Switzerland
USA and its territories
Union of Comoros
All FATF Blacklisted countries
Any other jurisdictions deemed prohibited by Anjouan Offshore Financial Authority

[gaynellehalsey]

although in this thread they have already paid people who are trying to protect them.

How can you say that, do you actually have proof?

Protecting a casino when they’re not scamming isn’t a bad thing, but if they are scamming and people still defend them because they’re being paid, directly or indirectly, then something is clearly wrong. You have to be specific when making a claim like that because it’s a serious accusation. Otherwise, it just sounds like you’re making things up.

Listen, avatars from 2up Casino have gathered here. Do you think they don't get money from the casino for advertising? Or don't you get money from Rollbit? Everything seems pretty clear here, but I've provided all the facts about how the casino stole my money and showed all my bets. The casino didn't even show any arbitrage, although in any case, all providers have different sports lines and odds. Arbitrage can happen, even if you weren't planning on participating in it.

[_BlackStar]

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Listen, avatars from 2up Casino have gathered here. Do you think they don't get money from the casino for advertising? Or don't you get money from Rollbit? Everything seems pretty clear here, but I've provided all the facts about how the casino stole my money and showed all my bets. The casino didn't even show any arbitrage, although in any case, all providers have different sports lines and odds. Arbitrage can happen, even if you weren't planning on participating in it.

I think I read most of your complaints about this casino some time ago - but I'm not taking sides with either the casino or you. You are entitled to justice based on what you believe is right - but you don't need to blame any of the users here who are trying to find out the reason behind your problem. I hope the casino representatives can truly resolve your issue – the evidence you provided might be helpful, but let's see what the actual outcome of your problem will be.

[gunhell16]

although in this thread they have already paid people who are trying to protect them.

How can you say that, do you actually have proof?

Protecting a casino when they’re not scamming isn’t a bad thing, but if they are scamming and people still defend them because they’re being paid, directly or indirectly, then something is clearly wrong. You have to be specific when making a claim like that because it’s a serious accusation. Otherwise, it just sounds like you’re making things up.

Listen, avatars from 2up Casino have gathered here. Do you think they don't get money from the casino for advertising? Or don't you get money from Rollbit? Everything seems pretty clear here, but I've provided all the facts about how the casino stole my money and showed all my bets. The casino didn't even show any arbitrage, although in any case, all providers have different sports lines and odds. Arbitrage can happen, even if you weren't planning on participating in it.

If you have concrete evidence to support your scam accusation against a casino, it would be best for you to provide it. Otherwise, it will just seem
like you were the one at fault.

Even if you think you’re right, you’re just standing by a mistake and convincing yourself of a false reality. In reality, the shortcoming is yours.
Let's just wait and see how this all plays out. But most of the time casno always do show the right things, although there are a few casino is not.

[khaled0111]

it's very clear in the TOS if we take time to read it, the rules are very specific, we cannot twist it just to justify what we are planning to do as correct and allowed.

Some gamblers, even if they read the casino’s terms of service, intentionally choose to ignore some clauses (such as the one you bolded) and think they can get away with it. For example, some gamblers will proceed to create an account and play on a casino even if gambling is prohibited in their jurisdiction and their excuse will be that they read the ToS and did not find their country on the list of restricted countries.
Those who choose to do so can’t blame the casino when they ban their accounts.

[liuka]

it's very clear in the TOS if we take time to read it, the rules are very specific, we cannot twist it just to justify what we are planning to do as correct and allowed.

Some gamblers, even if they read the casino’s terms of service, intentionally choose to ignore some clauses (such as the one you bolded) and think they can get away with it. For example, some gamblers will proceed to create an account and play on a casino even if gambling is prohibited in their jurisdiction and their excuse will be that they read the ToS and did not find their country on the list of restricted countries.
Those who choose to do so can’t blame the casino when they ban their accounts.

The casino should make a pop-up message when the country is restricted or is on the list that cannot access it, let alone register, this prevents people who often do not read the ToS, fearing that this can be disputed by players under the pretext that they are not informed of such reasons when it is clear that all the rules are in the ToS.
Sometimes there are some people who are lazy to read ToS because it is too long to read, even though we know that finding important points in it is easy not too difficult.

[adultcrypto]

it's very clear in the TOS if we take time to read it, the rules are very specific, we cannot twist it just to justify what we are planning to do as correct and allowed.

Some gamblers, even if they read the casino’s terms of service, intentionally choose to ignore some clauses (such as the one you bolded) and think they can get away with it. For example, some gamblers will proceed to create an account and play on a casino even if gambling is prohibited in their jurisdiction and their excuse will be that they read the ToS and did not find their country on the list of restricted countries.
Those who choose to do so can’t blame the casino when they ban their accounts.

You are very correct because I have read a complain from someone that he knew that two accounts were not allowed but he decided to try it since he had deposit in only one of the accounts and has never used the other one to play. In his mind, the support will not find out but he failed to know that the platform have their way of spotting multiple accounts. People really know some of the things they do that are violations but always go ahead to do them thinking that they will not be caught.

[Russlenat]

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/2up.io

It's such a shame that you only have to look at reviews after your money has been stolen. Here's the real rating of this casino, without buying reviews. I don't know who's defending their honor, except maybe bribed people.

This is also something casinos need to improve. They’re already in the right forum where thousands of active users can see this as a place to build their reputation.

At some point a casino can still get bad reviews, but if they really care they’ll correct their mistakes when needed. If there were legit scam accusations with solid proof, the account would already have a red tag. I checked it just now, and it’s clean.

It will be dirty when crowds of bots start writing good reviews about them, and they will see that it was bots who wrote them. So far, the casino is not spending money on bots, although in this thread they have already paid people who are trying to protect them.

That’s your opinion and I respect that, but in the end it’s really up to the casinos on how they prove themselves worthy of the trust of gamblers. So far, I’m only looking at what’s here in the forum, and I haven’t seen any serious bad reviews that would raise red flags. If there were real scams involved, DT would’ve already tagged them by now.

As for reviews, those can vary from player to player anyway, and they don’t always reflect a casino’s real reputation.

[khaled0111]

The casino should make a pop-up message when the country is restricted or is on the list that cannot access it, let alone register, this prevents people who often do not read the ToS, fearing that this can be disputed by players under the pretext that they are not informed of such reasons when it is clear that all the rules are in the ToS.

If you are talking about users from restricted countries, then the casino should not allow them to access their website completely and not only display a warning or a notification message. But, that’s just my opinion!
If you are talking about users wh are from countries where gambling is prohibited, then I don’t think there is much the casino can do about that.
In the end, we have to agree that it’s the user’s responsibility to read the ToS of the service they are going to use.

Sometimes there are some people who are lazy to read ToS because it is too long to read, even though we know that finding important points in it is easy not too difficult.

Although being lazy is not an excuse but you can always quickly find the information you are interested in by searching for specific keywords like "vpn", "restrited countries",,,

[suzanne5223]

As if all gamblers are reading the rules and the TOS that casinos have. They're only going to read it when they have encountered a problem. But in the beginning, there's no way for them to read the entirety of it and very unlikely that they'll read all of it once they sign up.

This is the genesis of the problem with most gamblers who accuse the casino blindly.
Yes, the information to read maybe many atleast reading the most important shouldn't be a big deal.

And they'll go back to the TOS when they're already facing the problem or when they're informed that they've done something against the casino.

It is what it is. After getting themselve into trouble through the habit of ignoring the most important aspect of gambling they will go back to read the TOS, and there's no way a gambler wont end up losing if s/he dont understand casino TOS, and the game rules even when s/he win the game.
These are some of the rules i learned about gambling profitably but despite everything we're saying some people still like learning through the hard way.

[Sanitough]

Listen, avatars from 2up Casino have gathered here. Do you think they don't get money from the casino for advertising?

What they’re getting is from wearing a signature + avatar, it’s not like they’re directly advertising the casino or defending it if it’s scamming gamblers. If you’re familiar with 1xBit, that casino has a really bad reputation here.

If users were just after the money, they’d still advertise it by wearing the signature, but that didn’t really happen because DT members pay attention. Anyone openly promoting scams usually ends up with a negative tag as well.

[gaynellehalsey]

If you have concrete evidence to support your scam accusation against a casino, it would be best for you to provide it. Otherwise, it will just seem
like you were the one at fault.

Even if you think you’re right, you’re just standing by a mistake and convincing yourself of a false reality. In reality, the shortcoming is yours.
Let's just wait and see how this all plays out. But most of the time casno always do show the right things, although there are a few casino is not.

My evidence that the casino is a scam is contained in my post "Fraud Accusations." I have screenshots of deposits, screenshots of sports bets, screenshots of withdrawals—all the evidence is collected in this post. Don't be lazy and read my post. The OP of this post has stopped responding to this thread; I'm waiting for their response. I also created a "complaint" on lcb.org.

[Pmalek]

If you are talking about users from restricted countries, then the casino should not allow them to access their website completely and not only display a warning or a notification message. But, that’s just my opinion!

I think the notification message is enough if done correctly. It should display a warning that the person is accessing the casino from a banned territory and that they are not allowed to play there. If they decide to ignore it and proceed, they should be responsible for the consequences of their actions.

I look at that the same way I look at speed limits on the road. They tell you how fast you are allowed to drive, and they serve as a warning not to drive faster than that. If you ignore them and do what you want, don't be surprised if you get pulled over by the police or get a speeding ticket in your mailbox in the near future.

[mirakal]

My evidence that the casino is a scam is contained in my post "Fraud Accusations." I have screenshots of deposits, screenshots of sports bets, screenshots of withdrawals—all the evidence is collected in this post. Don't be lazy and read my post. The OP of this post has stopped responding to this thread; I'm waiting for their response.

I can see you have posted it here already , then just wait for the response. it will not help you case if you keep posting here the same issue when its no longer related to the topic, it may sound like you are just spamming. people here are not blind though, they sees your concern.

I also created a "complaint" on lcb.org.

I'm not familiar with this site, but if that would help you case then good luck.

[Questat]

I think the notification message is enough if done correctly. It should display a warning that the person is accessing the casino from a banned territory and that they are not allowed to play there. If they decide to ignore it and proceed, they should be responsible for the consequences of their actions.

It would honestly be better if access was fully blocked to avoid any confusion.
For example, I tried accessing casinos that are blocked in our country like DraftKings, and this is what I ended up getting.

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.draftkings.com/" on this server.
Reference #18.8eb8027a.1767522544.e9f61d1

https://errors.edgesuite.net/18.8eb8027a.1767522544.e9f61d1

So if all casinso would have something like that, problem will be avoided.

[yudi09]

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Listen, avatars from 2up Casino have gathered here. Do you think they don't get money from the casino for advertising? Or don't you get money from Rollbit? Everything seems pretty clear here, but I've provided all the facts about how the casino stole my money and showed all my bets. The casino didn't even show any arbitrage, although in any case, all providers have different sports lines and odds. Arbitrage can happen, even if you weren't planning on participating in it.

Approximately 47 people who use the 2UP signature and avatar and we are part of the casino promotion on the forum. If the mistake lies with the casino, we will not take the casino's side. We will also defend the casino if you are the one who violated the rules and the mistake lies with the player.

All terms and conditions must be taken into consideration, as discussed previously. We strongly support both parties in getting what they deserve.
We promote what we should do professionally. As far as we know, 2UP would not ignore its reputation over a minor issue. We hope this issue will be resolved quickly. You must also be professional and not bring other casinos into your issues here.

[gaynellehalsey]

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Listen, avatars from 2up Casino have gathered here. Do you think they don't get money from the casino for advertising? Or don't you get money from Rollbit? Everything seems pretty clear here, but I've provided all the facts about how the casino stole my money and showed all my bets. The casino didn't even show any arbitrage, although in any case, all providers have different sports lines and odds. Arbitrage can happen, even if you weren't planning on participating in it.

Approximately 47 people who use the 2UP signature and avatar and we are part of the casino promotion on the forum. If the mistake lies with the casino, we will not take the casino's side. We will also defend the casino if you are the one who violated the rules and the mistake lies with the player.

All terms and conditions must be taken into consideration, as discussed previously. We strongly support both parties in getting what they deserve.
We promote what we should do professionally. As far as we know, 2UP would not ignore its reputation over a minor issue. We hope this issue will be resolved quickly. You must also be professional and not bring other casinos into your issues here.

"Professionals" with 2up on their avatar, you could have solved this problem on day one by forwarding my complaints to your boss, but you keep talking about betting arbitrage and other casinos, even though I haven't written anything about other casinos. I gave examples of providers without specifying which ones, but I stated that arbitrage will happen in any case because they all have different odds and market lines. Why haven't you passed this information on to your boss yet?

[impulse709]

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Listen, avatars from 2up Casino have gathered here. Do you think they don't get money from the casino for advertising? Or don't you get money from Rollbit? Everything seems pretty clear here, but I've provided all the facts about how the casino stole my money and showed all my bets. The casino didn't even show any arbitrage, although in any case, all providers have different sports lines and odds. Arbitrage can happen, even if you weren't planning on participating in it.

Approximately 47 people who use the 2UP signature and avatar and we are part of the casino promotion on the forum. If the mistake lies with the casino, we will not take the casino's side. We will also defend the casino if you are the one who violated the rules and the mistake lies with the player.

All terms and conditions must be taken into consideration, as discussed previously. We strongly support both parties in getting what they deserve.
We promote what we should do professionally. As far as we know, 2UP would not ignore its reputation over a minor issue. We hope this issue will be resolved quickly. You must also be professional and not bring other casinos into your issues here.

In this case, it is necessary not to assume but concentrate on tested facts. The fact that the users have user signatures or avatars in a forum promotion does not necessarily nullify their views, neither does an act of raising a complaint necessarily indicate that the casino is in the wrong. The evidence, the history of betting and the application of the terms and conditions are more important. Arbitrage may also occur naturally as a result of variations in odds and providers, even when there is no intention. In case a rule was claimed to have been violated, it should be explained. Meanwhile, the concerns of the player should be reviewed in a transparent and rightful manner. An impartial solution offered by a professional will be of benefit to both parties, and safeguard the integrity of the forum.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

"Professionals" with 2up on their avatar, you could have solved this problem on day one by forwarding my complaints to your boss...

That has nothing to do with it. You don't know how signature campaigns work. We are hired by a campaign manager who is in turn hired by the company. In some cases, when there is no official representative on the forum to respond to complaints, the campaign manager acts as an intermediary, but this is not always the case, nor is it mandatory.

Those of us who have the signature and avatar are not dedicated to solving problems of this kind, especially if our experience betting at the casino is perfectly normal, as is my case. I now wear this signature in the same way that I was wearing another one two weeks ago. I am hired to write posts on the forum using the signature (and the avatar). That's it.

Although there is one member who usually tries to help in these cases, holydarkness, no matter what the casino is, but it is up to him if he wants to try to help you or not, he does it completely selflessly.

[gaynellehalsey]

"Professionals" with 2up on their avatar, you could have solved this problem on day one by forwarding my complaints to your boss...

That has nothing to do with it. You don't know how signature campaigns work. We are hired by a campaign manager who is in turn hired by the company. In some cases, when there is no official representative on the forum to respond to complaints, the campaign manager acts as an intermediary, but this is not always the case, nor is it mandatory.

Those of us who have the signature and avatar are not dedicated to solving problems of this kind, especially if our experience betting at the casino is perfectly normal, as is my case. I now wear this signature in the same way that I was wearing another one two weeks ago. I am hired to write posts on the forum using the signature (and the avatar). That's it.

Although there is one member who usually tries to help in these cases, holydarkness, no matter what the casino is, but it is up to him if he wants to try to help you or not, he does it completely selflessly.

I don't know, but anyone who writes without proof that they agree with my use of arbitrage opportunities automatically becomes a 2up Casino bot to me. But here's another situation: the casino stole my deposit, and it seems they're not entirely happy with this decision, so as not to tarnish their reputation as a user of this site. I'm still waiting for a public response from your boss with all the evidence, and pointless talk about arbitrage is useless; no one can prove it.