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October 23, 2025, 10:22:59 PM
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To all,

I’m trying to follow forum etiquette and avoid cluttering threads. Still learning the proper formats, rules, and expectations. I don’t want to be dismissed because of inexperience or how I’ve presented my situation.

That said... how is my Shuffle issue getting zero attention? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5561767.0
These are serious allegations, backed by proof. I expected at least some feedback or discussion. Isn’t that the point of a public forum? The silence feels off and I'm calling you out.

If my posts are wrong, misplaced, or offensive, say so. This community has never been shy about calling people out before. The lack of response makes it seem like people are being influenced or afraid to speak up.

I’m especially interested in hearing from veteran and long-time members:
Am I misunderstanding something? Out of line?
Or do you also see major issues with Shuffle’s actions toward me?

I'm not whining about pennies here. The damages accrued are hefty and well into 6 figures.

I’m open to all feedback, even if it challenges my view. The goal is transparency and accountability. When the community stops fighting for fairness and respect, we all fail

Additional context:
• I personally invested over $100,000 into what was presented as a long-term Shuffle partnership.
• My referrals generated over $200M in wagers across 500+ players.
• I worked closely with Shuffle’s team early on to help build their community.
• I can back every claim with documentation, screenshots, and correspondence — available for trusted members or public review if needed.

I’m considering reformatting the Scam Accusation post to make it cleaner, easier to follow, and better supported by evidence. I’d appreciate any guidance or feedback before doing so.

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October 23, 2025, 11:14:25 PM
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Ok.

1. Who exactly are you calling out? People like me, who've helped bust many scams, but not many recently? Or ... Someone else?

2. Yes, this is a public forum - If you don't like it you are free to leave.

3. The fact that nobody is "doing anything about it" lies not with anyone here, neither me or anyone else who may follow such dramas.

4. For every post like yours, there are probably ~10 more each week, from various gambling venues.

5. IOTW,



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October 23, 2025, 11:52:01 PM
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Honestly, I'm not sure what you expect from us here.
We can speculate and make assumptions here, and the truth about your case is up to you and Shuffle. The fact that there is not much discussion does not mean that the community is automatically on the side of the casino, but there is just no way to confirm your claims.

Now I read the initial thread a bit, and I got the impression that you didn't tell us all the details of your case with them. But like I said, that could just be speculation.

As far as I understand, this takes a long time, so it is a logical question: Why did you continue to promote Shuffle for so long, in addition to their 'Bad-Faith Conduct'? If you already have the capacity to bring big players, I believe that every casino will welcome you generously.


I never made any agreement to split commissions with this player.

For example, I am confused by the fact that at the beginning you claim that you never promised or made a deal with the players, while a little later in the same post, you admit that there were some agreements. Even though they are "only two deals", they are still deals.

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I know misunderstandings can happen. I’ve always been open to dialogue and, when given explanations, I often gained perspective even if I disagreed. 
But Shuffle repeatedly chose silence, dismissal, or shutdown instead of collaboration. 
Out of all my players across every platform, only two ever had any special deal or exception.

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October 24, 2025, 07:30:08 AM
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Ok.

1. Who exactly are you calling out? People like me, who've helped bust many scams, but not many recently? Or ... Someone else?

2. Yes, this is a public forum - If you don't like it you are free to leave.

3. The fact that nobody is "doing anything about it" lies not with anyone here, neither me or anyone else who may follow such dramas.

4. For every post like yours, there are probably ~10 more each week, from various gambling venues.

5. IOTW,


Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate the replies.

To Owlcatz:

I’m calling out anyone who values trust, fairness, and ethics in online gambling. Shuffle’s behavior is a threat to all of that.

Help me understand how this is “drama.”?
Shuffle is breaking their own terms and they owe me a good bit of money. They are breaking the rules and trust. It's scammy and just wrong.

This is a legitimate dispute involving serious account violations and financial harm. If a casino manipulates partner payouts or retaliates financially, why would anyone trust them not to do the same to players? You should care.

You bragged you’re good at busting scams? I challenge you to prove me wrong. Let’s start with the first issue.

Shuffle Violation: Unjust removal of a player from my affiliate code
• No valid reason given
• No evidence provided
• No investigation or due process
• Player removed from my code

Explain how that’s justified under any fair standard.

The player admitted there was no deal. The Shuffle host lied and acted unprofessionally
Ironically, had Shuffle even checked, that player had already been tipped and gifted more than 90% of their earned commissions which discredited the entire claim.


I have records, screenshots, and correspondence to back every claim. I can share them with trusted members or post them publicly in full. If something’s unclear, tell me what to show and I will show it. I will comply with 100% transparency.
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October 24, 2025, 09:12:26 AM
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OP: "Calling out the Bitcointalk Community".
Me: Yes, please.

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October 24, 2025, 09:50:52 AM
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Shuffle is breaking their own terms and they owe me a good bit of money. They are breaking the rules and trust. It's scammy and just wrong.
You're accusing a website, not a forum user. If there's a forum user involved, that's what the Scam Report Format is for. If there is no forum user involved, what do you expect from the Bitcointalk community?

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October 24, 2025, 10:45:13 AM
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Rather, you are making a fool of yourself in front of the Bitcointalk community.

That said... how is my Shuffle issue getting zero attention?

Why should I pay any attention to it?

You seem to believe you have the right to make your problems the community's problems, and that's where you're going wrong.

From the Scam Accusations threads, we sometimes go and try to help. Some members are more active, but I, for example, only visit the section from time to time and only comment on threads that catch my attention. I am under no obligation to solve your problems that's for sure.

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October 24, 2025, 02:14:32 PM
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Shuffle is breaking their own terms and they owe me a good bit of money. They are breaking the rules and trust. It's scammy and just wrong.
You're accusing a website, not a forum user. If there's a forum user involved, that's what the Scam Report Format is for. If there is no forum user involved, what do you expect from the Bitcointalk community?
But I guess, when that website got announcement and doing active business here, you (DTs) may enforce its owner/representatives to provide their stand against any allegation.

I understand this is kind of providing support through bitcointalk for any business which is active here.

In the past, if my memory serves accurate, sportsbet and other casino representatives got negged for all of open scam accusation against them until they prove themselves right.

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October 24, 2025, 03:58:11 PM
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That said... how is my Shuffle issue getting zero attention? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5561767.0
You don't get special attention from the community or mods on this forum.
The key is in the rule: (19).

19. Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).



You made accusations against SHUFFLE.COM (October 09, 2025) while another user first made accusations against shuffle.com on (December 07, 2024) one year later than you.

Evidence: several allegations against shuffle.com.
1. Topic: shuffle.com unresolved issue - Paid out - update
2. Topic: [SOLVED]Shuffle.com not paying out be aware!!!
3. Topic: Solved - Shuffle.com — Blocking Withdrawals after Legitimate Win
4. Topic: Shuffle.com unfair treatment, STAY AWAY FROM THIS PLACE

Question: where did you get the Shuffle.com web link from this forum or outside the forum.
If it's from a forum, you should first visit the fraud section about Shuffle.com.
But if you get a Shuffle.com web link outside of course it would be a good idea for you to make accusations in external reviews such as Trustpilot and others.

You need to understand that fraud here is not (moderation) that's the point, all users themselves are aware of the risks, so in the future, look for information in several places first before using the related website.

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October 25, 2025, 04:40:11 AM
Last edit: October 25, 2025, 06:01:11 AM by Mr. Big
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Honestly, I'm not sure what you expect from us here.
We can speculate and make assumptions here, and the truth about your case is up to you and Shuffle. The fact that there is not much discussion does not mean that the community is automatically on the side of the casino, but there is just no way to confirm your claims.

Now I read the initial thread a bit, and I got the impression that you didn't tell us all the details of your case with them. But like I said, that could just be speculation.


As far as I understand, this takes a long time, so it is a logical question: Why did you continue to promote Shuffle for so long, in addition to their 'Bad-Faith Conduct'? If you already have the capacity to bring big players, I believe that every casino will welcome you generously.


To examplens:

Appreciate the reply. Just to be clear, I never had any ongoing deal to split commissions with players. The few cases I mentioned were one-offs, mentioned to try and keep things transparent.

I stuck with Shuffle because I honestly believed things could be worked out through proper communication. Instead, I got ignored and dismissed after putting in a lot of time, effort, and my own money. The damage from their actions shouldn’t just be brushed off like it’s nothing.

Yes, other casinos absolutely welcome me and I have since worked with others, but that doesn’t mean I should just dismiss what happened with Shuffle or let it slide. They still need to take accountability and pay the commissions and damages that are rightfully mine. Accountability matters especially in an industry built on trust.

This isn’t only about me. It affects everyone who cares about fair play and accountability in the crypto gambling space. When a site uses its position and power to screw someone over just because they can, that’s a problem for all of us.

I’m just looking for some real answers and a fair outcome here. If stuff like this keeps getting a pass, it sends the wrong message to everyone who actually values trust and integrity in this space.



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October 25, 2025, 05:31:19 AM
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I see that they didn’t give you the referral commissions you earned and if that’s true, I would contact these players you brought to shuffle and tell them to come to some other casino. Yes there are huge referral commission losses if that’s true but is it a full blown scam? I am not sure. It is not like they seized the players’ money and refused to give them back. I have taken a look to your scam accusation thread and it is a mess. You could have said “they don’t distribute referral commissions” , give amounts and dates, and be done with it. Instead you wrote a damn book about it. (That’s if unless I am missing something else but I don’t think so)

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October 25, 2025, 07:35:58 AM
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The key is in the rule: (19).

@Yoshie  Thanks for clarifying, and I understand rule 19. I’m not asking for moderation or “special attention.” I’m asking for awareness.

The Shuffle case isn’t a simple payout complaint. Shuffle.com’s actions go far beyond a “risk” players willingly take. It involves serious violations and business misconduct; affiliate code tampering, silent player reassignment, defamatory accusations, and bad faith retaliation against partners. That kind of behavior directly undermines the integrity needed in this industry.

I found Shuffle outside the forum, but their conduct has since affected multiple users inside this community, both affiliates and players alike. This isn’t about moderation; it’s about accountability.

This situation needs forum support to bring visibility and pressure Shuffle into responding. Their bad faith misconduct is bad enough, but their complete lack of response and accountability is unacceptable. The business behavior shown here should not be tolerated nor ignored.

I genuinely need this community’s help to raise visibility, apply pressure, and push for accountability. This forum has the reach, respect, and influence to make Shuffle answer for their actions.
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October 25, 2025, 02:01:47 PM
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I found Shuffle outside the forum, but their conduct has since affected multiple users inside this community, both affiliates and players alike. This isn’t about moderation; it’s about accountability.
Well, if you talk about Accountability, of course we cannot act or be responsible in your case, all actions and decisions, only Shuffle.com knows about your problem.

To complete your accountability, we here can only suggest asking for help or communicating directly with a Shuffle.com representative here: Topic: ✨ Shuffle.com | The next generation of crypto casinos | Sports, Casino + token

After all they run a campaign here: Topic: [CFNP] Shuffle.com | Next Generation Crypto Casino | Signature Campaign, Managed by: @Little Mouse, well if he can help, maybe you can ask him to help you solve your problem.

That's what we can help with, then it's up to you and Shuffle.com.

Remember @Little Mouse, only as a campaign manager, he has the right to respond or not to anyone.



Moreover, I see that you also have other cases at other casinos, which have been resolved, maybe you can try this method when resolving cases at Jackpot.bet and BC.game.

BCgame - resolved

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Jackpot.bet contacted me and partially reinstated my account. They had me create a new one, then transferred all my referrals and airdrop points over, along with paying the retroactive commissions owed. That dispute is now resolved.

My advice, if you continue to have problems at every casino, you should consider it professionally when registering at an online casino.

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Even if that help means redirected me or just advising me

Seek legal council.

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October 25, 2025, 03:28:40 PM
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Even if that help means redirected me or just advising me

Seek legal council.

OP - this is the best advice you will get.  Unless it happens to them, most members won't care.  The days of this being a "community" died when Bitcoin skyrocketed.  I used to have a lot of "real" friends here, but most are gone.  Scammed away, scared away, or riched away. 
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You don't get special attention from the community or mods on this forum.
The key is in the rule: (19).
The unofficial rules of this forum got nothing to do with DT practices.

Rule no: 19 implies that mods won't nuke/ban a scammer. DTs could still neg scammers to alter us.

Unless it happens to them, most members won't care.  The days of this being a "community" died when Bitcoin skyrocketed.
Noooo... please do not give up. People like you still could bring changes to this community.

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Forum or its users doesnt owe you anything

You only come here to post about your issues then go mia when they are fixed/you dont care anymore

You registered well over 6 years ago but 0 activity other than YOUR issues

Where were you when u were making tons of money from shuffle? You could have helped some people here who had issues with shuffle by using your contacts there. Did you do that?

But the moment shuffle cuts you off, you come here asking everyone on the forum to stand by you, and eventually if they do pay you, you will sign out again until the next time you need help

Its one thing if you didnt know about the forum and are a newbie, but you do. Dont call anyone out when you havent spent a single second here with the community other than to complain about YOUR issues

As someone else said, get a lawyer.

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October 26, 2025, 03:34:42 PM
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Noooo... please do not give up. People like you still could bring changes to this community.

People like me?  What the hell is that supposed to mean?   Wink  (That was one of Will's favorite lines when we filmed Bad Boys II)

I didn't say I was leaving.  Cancer decimated this community (we lost TMAN and Lauda etc) but we've almost eradicated it, and I'll help everyone build this forum back.  Smiley

Forum or its users doesnt owe you anything
You registered well over 6 years ago but 0 activity other than YOUR issues

Great point.
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I meant this:
I'll help everyone build this forum back.



when they are fixed/you dont care anymore

In my view, that would be more than enough

Because, I see that situation like, he helped us to identify a business which will be answerable to anyone to justify their stand.

From that, next time, I will confidently choose a service which is having active support on this community rather than what I see in google ads or TV.

This is how this forum worked until the recent past.

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you gonna get the opposite result of what you are hoping for by creating threads like this one @OP.

people here (including me) don't like it when others try to force their issues to become our issues.
so, post your scam accusation, back it up with whatever proof you have that you have been scammed, those who are convinced will try to help you if they care enough, the rest don't owe you a fucking thing.

I’d appreciate any guidance or feedback before doing so.
go ask chatgpt, you already used it to write this post, so why not ask it for guidance and feedback too?



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