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November 07, 2025, 10:17:05 PM
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It all depends on which gambling games you choose. If these are gambling games that are entirely based on luck, then whatever your skills are, they won't be enough to win. So if you want to be a player, then choose poker or sports betting for yourself.
It's great advice , I also recommend it and with regard to sports guidelines , it would be good if you could focus on one sport or two at the most so you can have more detail when Analyzing the sport and have a much greater chance of getting it right.


The act on gambling with just few games allows the guarantee if you were to be favored, then it is always a higher Chance of making enough profit. Well I will say this is majorly for those that have the extra money to spend, so for those persons that don't work for anything will no how and what they really want when gambling. The best thing to do when gambling, is just to focus on one or two games or not much as others might have lots of games with little amount of money, so if we can maintain pattern, then we can win it with a higher chance and lose it with an immediate effect. Let's be wise and game properly.

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November 07, 2025, 10:18:23 PM
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Those who still believe to be players, taking OP's definition on this matter, are simply deluded. They aim to improve their skills, they believe they can improve results by being more skilled, they place bets seriously as if it was a job or investment, but after all, they don't see any concrete results, because you can't maximize your luck, neither increase your winning chances.

It actually points out that no matter how skillful we are or how long we have been gambling, it will not change the outcome of the game. We might increase our chances, but that never guarantees a win. In the end, we still rely on luck, not just on our knowledge and skills. Otherwise, gambling would be something that could be manipulated.

Therefore, those who believe they are gambling experts have no real way to prove it. In fact, it is even more delusional to think that winning can be achieved purely through strategies.
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November 07, 2025, 10:19:55 PM
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How about you guys? Do you consider yourself a gambler or a player?
There are some games where it is never possible to achieve skill, but rather depends entirely on luck, such as roulette, slot machines, bingo, lottery, etc. How would you define these gamblers? I think your definition is not complete enough to make a person a gambler and a player. A person who gambles only for fun, at the end of the day, is the one who is able to control his emotions. Because he has no goal of making money and he does not need to chase his losses. Take only entertainment from gambling and leave when the budget is over.

On the other hand, a professional gambler whose goal is to win and who regularly studies gambling, the main goal of such a person is to make money from gambling and benefit himself. A gambler with the goal of making money can never control his emotions. According to your definition, I am a gambler, these gamblers are the ones who are saved from big losses in the end

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November 07, 2025, 10:51:14 PM
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I dunno, I dunno if I’d be called a gambler or player and even really count. What I do know is that I like playing or betting, usually just to kill some time and get thrills about twice a week. For me, gambling is more like entertainment, something to get my adrenaline pumping and provide a little excitement in between routines.

When it comes to calculations, data analysis, or studying strategies, to be honest, I find them a bit overrated. Because, after all, regardless of how careful your calculations or how much data you’ve studied, it all comes down to luck. There’s no secret sauce to winning in gambling. So, for me, I’d just find as much enjoyment in the game by not burdening myself with strategies that could actually take away from the fun if I was just a little bit careful in playing it.

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November 07, 2025, 11:18:52 PM
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Both gamble, both take risks but the mindset is different.
For me a gambler plays for fun or thrill, sometimes just to pass the time. Nothing wrong with that but emotions usually take over, chasing losses, betting on impulse, or just playing for the rush.

A player on the other hand treats gambling like a skill game.
They aim to win study the odds improve their strategy, manage their bankroll and learn from every result.

Personally, I like to see myself as a player not just throwing bets for fun but with discipline and a plan. Still, I admit there are times I get caught up in the excitement

How about you guys? Do you consider yourself a gambler or a player?


Like we all know, gambling is always for fun and no other reason one is supposed to gambling , but different people with different opinions and they can't be forced on what they do not want.
 I gamble for fun and nothing more, if the wins comes, no problem, I accept, but chasing of wins and losses, and gambling for money is what I don't really do, because I don't want to pass through those emotions of always wanting to make money and if it doesn't come , I see myself as a loser, therefore I gamble responsibly without stress.

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November 07, 2025, 11:50:13 PM
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Both gamble, both take risks but the mindset is different.
For me a gambler plays for fun or thrill, sometimes just to pass the time. Nothing wrong with that but emotions usually take over, chasing losses, betting on impulse, or just playing for the rush.

A player on the other hand treats gambling like a skill game.
They aim to win study the odds improve their strategy, manage their bankroll and learn from every result.

Personally, I like to see myself as a player not just throwing bets for fun but with discipline and a plan. Still, I admit there are times I get caught up in the excitement

How about you guys? Do you consider yourself a gambler or a player?


Like we all know, gambling is always for fun and no other reason one is supposed to gambling , but different people with different opinions and they can't be forced on what they do not want.
 I gamble for fun and nothing more, if the wins comes, no problem, I accept, but chasing of wins and losses, and gambling for money is what I don't really do, because I don't want to pass through those emotions of always wanting to make money and if it doesn't come , I see myself as a loser, therefore I gamble responsibly without stress.
Even gamblers that is after profit can also claim to be gambling for fun. Moreover there is always fun in winning. Gambling for funs depends on if the motive is just to entertain ourselves. This set of gambler are few in numbers . The most important thing is to always gamble responsibly, Even if the reason is to make profit from gambling as long as we are doing it the right way, I don't if it is bad. There are some addict that do claim that they gamble for funs just for people not to call them irresponsible gamblers.

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November 07, 2025, 11:57:29 PM
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Everyone wants to be a player, but situations and the emotional downfall of an unexpected loss make them go for the next bet on something he or she hadn't known about. The previous bet has been made with proper study, and out of some mistake or lack of luck, it got lost, and now to recover the loss, odds will be selected in a random way. Some used to make bets on unknown games. This emotional instability will never help us turn into a player. I used to be like this, but it is always good to spend on a sport in which one has better knowledge and collective data.

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November 08, 2025, 09:27:02 PM
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Everyone wants to be a player, but situations and the emotional downfall of an unexpected loss make them go for the next bet on something he or she hadn't known about. The previous bet has been made with proper study, and out of some mistake or lack of luck, it got lost, and now to recover the loss, odds will be selected in a random way. Some used to make bets on unknown games. This emotional instability will never help us turn into a player. I used to be like this, but it is always good to spend on a sport in which one has better knowledge and collective data.
I believe this feeling and experience got me in some thoughts, how I can take my time to predict games and analyze them to my satisfaction, even to the point, that can take me for some times before I'm able to place my bet, those are the feelings and experience from old, right now, I don't have much time to be involved in such a player, as I'm a gambler that just pick games at random. To me I feel it is just fun, and why I made it so is because I believe the system is just designed to lose and slightly win with luck, and that is why I don't bother.

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November 08, 2025, 09:45:06 PM
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Everyone wants to be a player, but situations and the emotional downfall of an unexpected loss make them go for the next bet on something he or she hadn't known about. The previous bet has been made with proper study, and out of some mistake or lack of luck, it got lost, and now to recover the loss, odds will be selected in a random way. Some used to make bets on unknown games. This emotional instability will never help us turn into a player. I used to be like this, but it is always good to spend on a sport in which one has better knowledge and collective data.
I believe this feeling and experience got me in some thoughts, how I can take my time to predict games and analyze them to my satisfaction, even to the point, that can take me for some times before I'm able to place my bet, those are the feelings and experience from old, right now, I don't have much time to be involved in such a player, as I'm a gambler that just pick games at random. To me I feel it is just fun, and why I made it so is because I believe the system is just designed to lose and slightly win with luck, and that is why I don't bother.
Simple gambling is a free experience to the fun gamblers. In gambling where it is considered a form of entertainment, rather than income, judgments and anticipations are more relaxed. However, there is always a question mark, and thus fortune is essential. It is simpler to resort to not a complex analysis, which is appreciated by some of them in order to enjoy a gambling experience without any stress.

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November 08, 2025, 09:49:16 PM
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Like we all know, gambling is always for fun and no other reason one is supposed to gambling , but different people with different opinions and they can't be forced on what they do not want.
 I gamble for fun and nothing more, if the wins comes, no problem, I accept, but chasing of wins and losses, and gambling for money is what I don't really do, because I don't want to pass through those emotions of always wanting to make money and if it doesn't come , I see myself as a loser, therefore I gamble responsibly without stress.

I can't possibly say that I gamble just for the fun, i personally do hope for wining most times especially when I'm in a long losing streak of course I always hope for win during this stage so that I can increase my bankroll. But  I'm not also lucky to see things working as planned and it happens that I don't have any money left in my bankroll then I will have to go for a break maybe 2-3 weeks until I fund my bankroll to start going again.

The truth is there's no way you would be in a long losing streak that you won't start hoping for luck to come so you can at least win to increase your bankroll, because we can't be throwing our money all the time in gamble when we can't make at least one win, I doubt it if this will look funny no matter how small the amount is.

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November 08, 2025, 10:05:43 PM
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Everyone wants to be a player, but situations and the emotional downfall of an unexpected loss make them go for the next bet on something he or she hadn't known about. The previous bet has been made with proper study, and out of some mistake or lack of luck, it got lost, and now to recover the loss, odds will be selected in a random way. Some used to make bets on unknown games. This emotional instability will never help us turn into a player. I used to be like this, but it is always good to spend on a sport in which one has better knowledge and collective data.
I believe this feeling and experience got me in some thoughts, how I can take my time to predict games and analyze them to my satisfaction, even to the point, that can take me for some times before I'm able to place my bet, those are the feelings and experience from old, right now, I don't have much time to be involved in such a player, as I'm a gambler that just pick games at random. To me I feel it is just fun, and why I made it so is because I believe the system is just designed to lose and slightly win with luck, and that is why I don't bother.
For example, if you're in an emergency and the situation isn't conducive to gambling, it's best not to force yourself to gamble. Personally, in my opinion, if you really want to gamble, it's better to do it during your free time, as this is safer and more relaxed. Furthermore, I understand why some gamblers gamble so seriously. It's because of their uncontrollable desire to win, which leads them to lose control, leading them to gamble recklessly without considering the risk of loss. These people are considered addicts.

And with player, I feel they are more likely to have discipline and set limits, allowing them to maintain a safe and controlled life despite their gambling habits. You're right, "the system is designed for wins and losses," but this only applies to casino owners, while players have a much smaller chance of winning.
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November 08, 2025, 10:13:28 PM
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Simple gambling is a free experience to the fun gamblers. In gambling where it is considered a form of entertainment, rather than income, judgments and anticipations are more relaxed. However, there is always a question mark, and thus fortune is essential. It is simpler to resort to not a complex analysis, which is appreciated by some of them in order to enjoy a gambling experience without any stress.
The majority treats gambling as a way to have fun but, there's also that portion that considers it when having fun to have some income.

But if you want to be a relaxed gambler, I guess that's a good term that you've used, I'm more to that and I don't feel bad whichever is the outcome of my bets.

You're not dealt to pressure because we can be easy with it and just going to have to seek for another bet that we're going to do. This makes it easier for us to move on if we're more adaptable.

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November 08, 2025, 10:32:13 PM
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Everyone wants to be a player, but situations and the emotional downfall of an unexpected loss make them go for the next bet on something he or she hadn't known about. The previous bet has been made with proper study, and out of some mistake or lack of luck, it got lost, and now to recover the loss, odds will be selected in a random way. Some used to make bets on unknown games. This emotional instability will never help us turn into a player. I used to be like this, but it is always good to spend on a sport in which one has better knowledge and collective data.
I believe this feeling and experience got me in some thoughts, how I can take my time to predict games and analyze them to my satisfaction, even to the point, that can take me for some times before I'm able to place my bet, those are the feelings and experience from old, right now, I don't have much time to be involved in such a player, as I'm a gambler that just pick games at random. To me I feel it is just fun, and why I made it so is because I believe the system is just designed to lose and slightly win with luck, and that is why I don't bother.
Simple gambling is a free experience to the fun gamblers. In gambling where it is considered a form of entertainment, rather than income, judgments and anticipations are more relaxed. However, there is always a question mark, and thus fortune is essential. It is simpler to resort to not a complex analysis, which is appreciated by some of them in order to enjoy a gambling experience without any stress.

It is very important to use discreet money in gambling, gambling should be mainly for entertainment purposes, because by expecting more than this, the risk of losing money can increase many times. By gambling for entertainment purposes, self-control can be maintained over oneself, so that the main purpose of gambling is right, there is no additional financial pressure on oneself, gambling can be conducted according to the right rules, so that the real fun of gambling can be enjoyed.

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November 08, 2025, 11:36:38 PM
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According to your different definitions of a gambler and a player, I prefer a player. Gamblers most of the time don't have control over how they stake a bet, with no time limit or money limit, they don't analyse their game, they just rush into a bet shop to stake a bet, and their main purpose is to win, with no thought of fun. 

This reminds me of some tricycle guys in my area, once they drop off passengers, you can see them going inside the gambling shop to stake a game, and after that, they go back to load some passengers again and ride for some minutes, maybe two legs, according to how they call it, and then go back to gamble. In a day, they go in and out of the betting shop countless times with no specific staking strategy and no analysing, just pumping in and out to win and lose. These are gamblers, and most of them are addicted to it.
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According to your different definitions of a gambler and a player, I prefer a player. Gamblers most of the time don't have control over how they stake a bet, with no time limit or money limit, they don't analyse their game, they just rush into a bet shop to stake a bet, and their main purpose is to win, with no thought of fun. 

This reminds me of some tricycle guys in my area, once they drop off passengers, you can see them going inside the gambling shop to stake a game, and after that, they go back to load some passengers again and ride for some minutes, maybe two legs, according to how they call it, and then go back to gamble. In a day, they go in and out of the betting shop countless times with no specific staking strategy and no analysing, just pumping in and out to win and lose. These are gamblers, and most of them are addicted to it.

On average every time gambling occurs, they only hope for victory and betting continues until they can feel victory, after that they still want to continue the next fight because of the desire to get bigger profits but in the end they only get defeat and this often happens, like the pedicab driver you gave as an example, they only hope for victory, but if the game is there we can enjoy the challenge without having to feel anxious when defeat will occur and in the end we can feel the finish and look for new challenges, but there are also some games that have been combined with gambling so that betting can occur which is not recommended.
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November 08, 2025, 11:59:01 PM
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Both gamble, both take risks but the mindset is different.
For me a gambler plays for fun or thrill, sometimes just to pass the time. Nothing wrong with that but emotions usually take over, chasing losses, betting on impulse, or just playing for the rush.

A player on the other hand treats gambling like a skill game.
They aim to win study the odds improve their strategy, manage their bankroll and learn from every result.

Personally, I like to see myself as a player not just throwing bets for fun but with discipline and a plan. Still, I admit there are times I get caught up in the excitement

How about you guys? Do you consider yourself a gambler or a player?

I gamble for fun and based on what you said I am considered a gambler but how do I consider myself a gambler? It seems strange that some people consider me a gambler but the way you said it I have to say that I am a gambler because I gamble for fun and I do not gamble to make money. Moreover, based on what you said, those who gamble continuously and hope to make money from gambling are called gamblers. Actually, here I cannot match myself with gamblers because I sometimes entertain myself and participate in gambling, that too based on my own opinion and analysis. So I can clearly say that I am a recreational gambler, I am not a player.

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November 09, 2025, 12:33:10 AM
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Both gamble, both take risks but the mindset is different.
For me a gambler plays for fun or thrill, sometimes just to pass the time. Nothing wrong with that but emotions usually take over, chasing losses, betting on impulse, or just playing for the rush.

A player on the other hand treats gambling like a skill game.
They aim to win study the odds improve their strategy, manage their bankroll and learn from every result.
Personally, I like to see myself as a player not just throwing bets for fun but with discipline and a plan. Still, I admit there are times I get caught up in the excitement

How about you guys? Do you consider yourself a gambler or a player?

according to your definition i consider myself a gambler, because i play for fun and excitement, but i do consider this a good approach for gambling, you are likely to be emotional more if you are a player via your definition. A player tends to treat gambling as a business and will always want profits, with the wishful thinking to win, and this can be get one emotional, where by leading to addiction. but on the other hand gambling is done just for excitement and there is no hard feelings attached,
gambling is a very sensitive sport and it requires a level of discipline, to avoid addiction and loss of huge amount of money.

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November 09, 2025, 06:20:18 PM
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Both gamble, both take risks but the mindset is different.
For me a gambler plays for fun or thrill, sometimes just to pass the time. Nothing wrong with that but emotions usually take over, chasing losses, betting on impulse, or just playing for the rush.

A player on the other hand treats gambling like a skill game.
They aim to win study the odds improve their strategy, manage their bankroll and learn from every result.

Personally, I like to see myself as a player not just throwing bets for fun but with discipline and a plan. Still, I admit there are times I get caught up in the excitement

How about you guys? Do you consider yourself a gambler or a player?

I go gambling with my friends once a week or a month. Because I see gambling as a form of entertainment. When a person cannot control his emotions, gambling becomes an addiction. In addition, some minors consider gambling as a means of income. If someone considers gambling as a means of income, then he must have become addicted to gambling. Those who gamble based on luck without any experience are basically gamblers. All these inexperienced gamblers cannot survive for long. But those who gamble just for fun can enjoy the fun of gambling for years.
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November 09, 2025, 06:38:20 PM
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Both gamble, both take risks but the mindset is different.
For me a gambler plays for fun or thrill, sometimes just to pass the time. Nothing wrong with that but emotions usually take over, chasing losses, betting on impulse, or just playing for the rush.

A player on the other hand treats gambling like a skill game.
They aim to win study the odds improve their strategy, manage their bankroll and learn from every result.

Personally, I like to see myself as a player not just throwing bets for fun but with discipline and a plan. Still, I admit there are times I get caught up in the excitement

How about you guys? Do you consider yourself a gambler or a player?

I go gambling with my friends once a week or a month. Because I see gambling as a form of entertainment. When a person cannot control his emotions, gambling becomes an addiction. In addition, some minors consider gambling as a means of income. If someone considers gambling as a means of income, then he must have become addicted to gambling. Those who gamble based on luck without any experience are basically gamblers. All these inexperienced gamblers cannot survive for long. But those who gamble just for fun can enjoy the fun of gambling for years.

Gambling is only for fun and those who considered it as a game where they get experience and think they become players then they are totally wrong in their thinking.

How can anyone become a player in gambling when every new game is new game both for experienced and new players. The only thing that matters between a winner and loser is luck and it has nothing to do with skills. So a new player has equal chances of winning as with the experienced gambler.

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November 09, 2025, 07:07:41 PM
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Those who still believe to be players, taking OP's definition on this matter, are simply deluded. They aim to improve their skills, they believe they can improve results by being more skilled, they place bets seriously as if it was a job or investment, but after all, they don't see any concrete results, because you can't maximize your luck, neither increase your winning chances.

It actually points out that no matter how skillful we are or how long we have been gambling, it will not change the outcome of the game. We might increase our chances, but that never guarantees a win. In the end, we still rely on luck, not just on our knowledge and skills. Otherwise, gambling would be something that could be manipulated.

Therefore, those who believe they are gambling experts have no real way to prove it. In fact, it is even more delusional to think that winning can be achieved purely through strategies.
That's true. We can indeed increase our chances in some types of gambling, but ultimately, it all comes down to our own luck. We can do our best to increase our chances, but if we're not lucky enough, we won't win. The opposite can even happen, such as placing a random bet, but luck favors us and we win.

Those who consider themselves experts at gambling may do so because they have strong luck. They may even be known as gambling experts because their bets often result in wins, but behind that, there are bound to be a series of losses.
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