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February 05, 2026, 05:54:44 PM
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Regarding your offer for Twitch, kindly know that it is in my very personal preference to keep this device [the device I buy and dedicate for forum and nothing else] clean from other app unless extremely necessary. So, is it possible to ask for someone home to send you the video recording?

OK. Is there anyone from your trust that could do it? Watching a stream for 5 minutes. The person can send me an email and I can reply or wtf to show it isn't manipulated anyway. I'm desperate as I told I have no 2nd device neither second person rn. I'm ready even to share my email credentials. Please, is there no other way to move on with this?

I just read your PM after I send the post [a habit to focus on cases I am currrently and actively engaged in, before reading PM because they're constantly flooded with people asking help behind the screen]. Given the situation made clear to me, uuhh... I've installed twitch and finished watching your link.

If I may ask, were you still wanting me to watch your live stream or the recording is sufficient enough as your final evidence, given the recording basically shows constant result from the previous two [the neck breaking tilted recording and the other phone recording]?

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February 05, 2026, 06:02:41 PM
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I can live stream right now and you can send me email during live and I can reply etc if you need. I'll be starting stream now

My point on streaming is just for you can see everything you want in live. Like remote accessing and it is recorded automatically on twitch servers
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February 05, 2026, 06:14:05 PM
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I can live stream right now and you can send me email during live and I can reply etc if you need. I'll be starting stream now

OP, I am new to twitch, I am someone somewhat old in mind but trapped in young body, I barely use social media, no tiktok, no snapchat, or other thngs. So... not sure if I need to do something as your live stream only shows this:



p.s.: and no, I don't want to send you an email. The whole anonymous and all?

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February 05, 2026, 06:17:02 PM
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Ok I'll reset it wait.
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February 05, 2026, 06:28:50 PM
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Ok I'll reset it wait.

Ok, I've seen all. Though I want to ask if you can scroll a bit slower so I can screen-capture several frame to substantiate my final words, but... it is safe to say that what I watch is the same with the one you're uploaded before [minus the whatsapp pop-up], as well as the video you sent me privately.

I am asking your permission to make screenshot of each of the videos [from twitch, from the neck-breaking video, and from the other video], each from different second on the videos, but each showing what I wanted to verify?

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February 05, 2026, 06:30:29 PM
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Ok I'll reset it wait.

Ok, I've seen all. Though I want to ask if you can scroll a bit slower so I can screen-capture several frame to substantiate my final words, but... it is safe to say that what I watch is the same with the one you're uploaded before [minus the whatsapp pop-up], as well as the video you sent me privately.

I am asking your permission to make screenshot of each of the videos [from twitch, from the neck-breaking video, and from the other video], each from different second on the videos, but each showing what I wanted to verify?

Yes you are free to revisit the vod. I'll send you URL with the vod so you can pause etc. Thanks once again for this secundary chance.
I'm the biggest interested part here to solve it. I have nothing to hide. I'm just lost and desperate
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February 05, 2026, 06:41:24 PM
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Ok I'll reset it wait.

Ok, I've seen all. Though I want to ask if you can scroll a bit slower so I can screen-capture several frame to substantiate my final words, but... it is safe to say that what I watch is the same with the one you're uploaded before [minus the whatsapp pop-up], as well as the video you sent me privately.

I am asking your permission to make screenshot of each of the videos [from twitch, from the neck-breaking video, and from the other video], each from different second on the videos, but each showing what I wanted to verify?

Yes you are free to revisit the vod. I'll send you URL with the vod so you can pause etc. Thanks once again for this secundary chance.
I'm the biggest interested part here to solve it. I have nothing to hide. I'm just lost and desperate

Ok, please give me time to collect everything and write my findings and closing statement. I'll probably only be able to do that tomorrow as it'll need time and it is around dinner time and I am famished. In the meantime though, do you mind to do me one more thing? Go to your gmail again, this time go to "all mails" instead of your inbox and set the filter to "toshi", a screenshot is enough for this, not a video.

And oh, please stop writing vid-with-o-instead-of-i, there is a user with that username who use that username and far as I know, he uses tg mention bot, so you're uhh... kinda hailing him.

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February 05, 2026, 07:04:59 PM
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Ok got it!

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February 05, 2026, 07:39:21 PM
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Ok got it!



Umm... I don't mean to be rude but there is a reason why it called "all mail" and I ask you to give me screenshot of what it shows, sending us a snippet of the all mail under toshi kinda defeat the purpose of "all mail"

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Sorry my bad.
Let me know if you need anything else.

I want to thank you once again. It is been hours of your life already helping me. I'm sorry about the video of the email, but I'm really with not many options in my life right now. I'm in debt and desperated to restart my life.

I'll try to help others somehow in similar situation. More than having winnings confiscated by casino... This kind of failures in my opinion are even more serious. Responsible Gambling should mean something to this casinos. And they should take it as priority.
They might have plenty of tools to identify everything. I see no excuses why do they allow duplicate account registrations in cases like this. Simple as that. And since they allowed - at least they can revert it now and recognize their error.

Thanks holydarkness. I'll hope the truth will come over.

If they (toshi.bet) doubt about any of those emails, Im free to share the credentials of the Gmail or something else you or they require. As you can see I receive the recovery emails from them and activation emails. Nothing else besides that - no replies.
But even not talking about the sent emails, all chats, all controversy from them...
First denying me the option to restrict my account making me to make an option to lose my pending bets and pending bonus... Or be unrestricted... Then I hope I demonstrated they really have "withdraw only" mode. Also they had limits on their old ToS.
Then about the secundary account... They always knew it was duplicate, even when they confirmed in chat duplicate accounts do not receive first deposit bonus.

I still don't understand why they don't communicate with me at all. Lets hope this nightmare will end well.

Edit: I don't want to fail you. I was changing the phone language to English and I applied the filter All mail:
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I never used that filter before. Let me know if you need another twitch session using that filter but the info is exactly the same it seems (showing inbox and sent)
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@holydarkness thanks and sorry for one more DM and one more message here. I shared with you the dms I sent to MJ (casino op here on btctalk).

They might be relevant, all of those specifying my addiction were sent before the creation of the secundary account, and it is one more platform, like Gmail that they can't deny the contact about.

I tried to talk directly to them many times without any success to solve this quickly and I couldn't.

I hope we can sort this quickly now. Thanks all of you once again
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February 06, 2026, 03:46:33 PM
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[...]

Edit: I don't want to fail you. I was changing the phone language to English and I applied the filter All mail:

I never used that filter before. Let me know if you need another twitch session using that filter but the info is exactly the same it seems (showing inbox and sent)

Yeah, still not all messages. If it is necessary you can take and upload several screenshots at once where the beginning of the second screenshot matched the last email of the first screenshot [to ensure they're continuous].

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[...]

Edit: I don't want to fail you. I was changing the phone language to English and I applied the filter All mail:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2026/02/05/UE8ebj.jpeg
I never used that filter before. Let me know if you need another twitch session using that filter but the info is exactly the same it seems (showing inbox and sent)

Yeah, still not all messages. If it is necessary you can take and upload several screenshots at once where the beginning of the second screenshot matched the last email of the first screenshot [to ensure they're continuous].

Sorry:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2026/02/06/UEO6wH.jpeg
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@holydarkness thanks and sorry for one more DM and one more message here. I shared with you the dms I sent to MJ (casino op here on btctalk).

[...]

Opened the link and instantly closing it the instance I realize what it is. My apology, it is called "Personal Message" for a reason. Without good valid reason and/or permission from the other party for it to be shared, I'd humbly ask to retreat from reading the conversation happened in that personal space.

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Ok, they are only one way messages... Not different from emails in my understanding but ok I understand.
I respect that but it doesn't contains nothing private from this case and it includes no answers from the OP.
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Ok, they are only one way messages... Not different from emails in my understanding but ok I understand.
I respect that but it doesn't contains nothing private from this case and it includes no answers from the OP.

OP, I have wrote and finished my wall of text containing my findings and conclusions. I will ask you once again, in concern of your current situation: are you in a safe place, watched by caring hands that can help interfere from any harms and undesired things you might do?

And yes, I am asking because the writing has a major tendency to trigger you.

I am one button away to finalize the major part of the burden I bear when SmartGold01 summoned me here [sans the minuscule back-and-forth debate that might occur later] and I am offering you to not publish the uhh... two hours text I've wrote.

Just give me your words, I'll proceed with either, as per your decision.

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Ok, they are only one way messages... Not different from emails in my understanding but ok I understand.
I respect that but it doesn't contains nothing private from this case and it includes no answers from the OP.

OP, I have wrote and finished my wall of text containing my findings and conclusions. I will ask you once again, in concern of your current situation: are you in a safe place, watched by caring hands that can help interfere from any harms and undesired things you might do?

And yes, I am asking because the writing has a major tendency to trigger you.

I am one button away to finalize the major part of the burden I bear when SmartGold01 summoned me here [sans the minuscule back-and-forth debate that might occur later] and I am offering you to not publish the uhh... two hours text I've wrote.

Just give me your words, I'll proceed with either, as per your decision.

Thank you, @holydarkness. I am in a safe place and I am ready to move forward. Please, proceed and publish your findings. I just need a conclusion to this.
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Preface:
OP and Overseers, this is my closing statement after going back and forth between the player and the representative of Toshi.bet, and piecing the puzzles from each of their narratives and supporting evidences and explanations. As mentioned before, this is a two-pronged situation, closely related and one affecting the other, yet still two pronged: a failure in securing account from self-exclusion and a failure to secure a banned account from creating another account.

Below are my findings, with supporting evidence, after listening and reading from what presented by both parties.

The Failure of Responsible Gambling:
We got this initial evidence of wrongdoing by OP on his opening post, an email sent on 2nd December 2025 requesting self exclusion as a problematic gambler,

[...]Email sent on Dec 2nd:
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in accordance to Toshi's initial instruction [now updated] to reach the said email for exclusion. A second substantiative evidence also recorded on below post, [I reuploaded the second image, with a slight adjustment to point out the email in question, as it is one of the keypoint here, link to original image right below the sequence], where we can see OP sent the request above, in between the list of all of his messages,


With this riddle to solve, I approached the first prong of the situation by asking series of questions to Toshi representative as well as asking OP for several evidence, video evidence to be precise, to be sure that what happened is really what happened. I sadly can not provide what I gather from Toshi's side, but to keep it as transparent as I can, the representative managed to pull some strings to gain high-level access that allow them to send me a recording of all of the emails OP sent to Toshi, and to my surprise, there were actually no email by 2nd December received by Toshi requesting such.

With this shift in narrative, I asked OP several times to re-substantiate his evidence and claim, by video recording that's accurately timed by running clock and its similarities. The results [as per OP's permission] are as such:

[note: it's a full linked, I make them small so they won't crowd the post, but larger and more detailed image is just one click away]



Having three exact same results, that matched Toshi's representative narrative, that indeed there was no email from OP to Toshi by 2nd December to request self exclusion, I tried to exhaust one small attempt by [as always, both parties are in the blind of what my intention really is, to keep things fair] asking OP to provide screenshots from his "all mails" folder, just in case the three above didn't justify and there was one or two email missing. The result as per OP's own upload:

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I am not going to ask and point fingers why two images show an email sent by 2nd December and the rest [through multiple attempt and methods] doesn't, it is what it is.

Conclusion: There were no negligence of RG from Toshi.bet: Toshi never get the email requesting to be excluded.

The In-Between That Explains-Why:
Toshi remains silence for OP's continuous email and live chats. As per OP's own admission, he has six accounts, while Toshi's system record more than the said number.

What probably happen is that it is not due to negligence, rather due to finding things as incoherent and/or irrelevant. Toshi got burst of email asking many things, why they allow OP to play, what is their license and jurisdiction, amongst other things, while they never got the reason why the player asked this on the first place: the starting email, the request to be self excluded itself, was never received. They don't get the context.

Same thing with the live support: though OP finally get the self exclusion after he escalate to live support as per revised method by Toshi, OP's other chats were not addressed due to their borderline spamming nature. This, though at glance seemed irrelevant, actually bridge us to the second prong.

The Failure in Restricting Self-Excluded Player:
Toshi is an anonymous-as-they-can-get casino. Not exactly a web3 gambling site [AFAIK] but according to their AML site, they strive to give leniency to players, they don't force-collect data upon registration, rather having a team that sweep from time to time with their own algorithm. This is why when OP and Toshi's live support met each other on this occasion,



they don't insta-ban the player. Live support doesn't have the "key" to check the algorithm and pull the data. Instead, they resort to a response that's intended to trigger a defense if a player is indeed doesn't have an alt, of which they [according to the rep] will soon release the restriction and mark the detection as false-positive.

With OP's blessing that give me full authority to ask for evidence on his behalf, Toshi gave me the record from their end for the rest of the chat on that image, and --without attempting to shift blame to OP, rather merely to explain why and how-- this situation happened because unfortunately OP does not initiate any mention of the self-excluded account, rather retort, thus lead the Live Support to take no action.

The real positive flag that connect accounts, though, happen a bit later when the team sweep for their trigger points and found those connected six-or-thirty-two accounts, that OP confirmed he deliberately tripped by making transaction back and forth and the likes to establish connection.

Conclusion: There were no negligence from Toshi.bet that enable self-excluded player to create new accounts: rather, Toshi tried to be lenient in this near-fully-KYC-and-very-transparent-CRYPTO-casino-that-should-be-pseudoanonymous. OP did not give his best to exclude himself from gambling by mentioning his other problematic account when he got the chance. And rather, self-create time-bomb with the other accounts that he's not revealing, suppose not asked.

Best case scenario [I will emphasize that I am sitting and typing this from neutral ground and neutral perspective and neutral opinion], OP mentioned this two account when he got that chance with Live Support, they banned both accounts, he still have four other undeclared accounts ready to gamble, and this thread will still exist, with slightly altered details in username and length of details of accounts and narrative.

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February 06, 2026, 07:24:12 PM
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​@holydarkness, I am presenting my final, comprehensive defense. This response exposes technical lies, chronological errors, and the bad faith of Toshi.bet that were overlooked in your conclusion.
  • The Jan 9th Breach (The Smoking Gun): You dismissed the December 2nd email, but you cannot ignore January 9th. I have provided chat logs showing I declared my addiction then. The casino closed my account and reopened it minutes later with no limits. This single act of negligence led to a loss of €2,136.65. This is an irrefutable violation of Responsible Gambling.
  • The "Withdraw Only" Deception: You concluded the casino lacked the technical tools to limit me. This is objectively false. While MJ claimed on Jan 21st that such limits didn't exist, I have video proof of my account in "Withdraw Mode Only" and Telegram logs with staff member 'little_mouse' using this exact term. They had the "key"; they simply lied about it to you and the community.
  • Direct Blockchain Link: The secondary account was funded directly from my primary account's wallet (USDC Solana). The casino has these hashes. If they claim they couldn't link the accounts, they are admitting to a total failure of their AML/KYC systems. I challenge you to ask them to check the source of the deposits for the secondary account.
  • Timeline of Accounts: I do not have 32 accounts. Any additional accounts were created after January 13th, strictly to investigate and gather evidence of their deceptive practices. When I was begging for help between Jan 1st and 12th, I only had my primary account. The "noise" was created after the negligence, not during it.
  • The Unpaid €700 Bonus: Toshi.bet explicitly promised via chat that pending bonuses would be paid upon closure. They have since seized approximately €700 (10% loss-back). This is a contractual debt. They used "account rules" to take my deposits but ignored "protection rules" and their own promises to pay what was owed.
  • The December 2nd Email: I maintain it was sent. Any search inconsistency is due to my frantic state as an addict potentially archiving it. But even if we ignore December, the documented failures of January 9th, 10th, and 11th are enough to prove gross negligence.

​Toshi.bet’s own Terms & Conditions at the time stated they had control limits they could apply. They chose to lie, ignore blockchain links, and reopen a declared addict's account. I ask for a re-evaluation based on these proven deceptions.
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February 06, 2026, 10:32:16 PM
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I need to address the "self-create time-bomb" theory and the technical contradictions that Toshi.bet is using to evade responsibility.
  • The "Time-Bomb" is a Myth: You claim I did not give my best to exclude myself because I didn't reveal other accounts on January 9th. The truth is: I had no other accounts on January 9th. I only had my primary account. When they reopened it minutes after I declared my addiction, they didn't ask about other accounts because there were none. The secondary account was only created around January 15th, after they had already failed me and locked my first account with a balance.
  • The Email System Failure: You mention my "spamming" nature. During the Live Chat, I was explicitly told that their email system was not working and they were not attending to email requests. If the casino admits their official self-exclusion channel is broken, how can the player be blamed for "spamming" to get a human response?
  • Selective Detection for Profit: I challenge the mediator's trust in the casino's "good faith". Toshi.bet's system detected my accounts were linked through direct wallet-to-wallet transfers. Based on multiple reports on Trustpilot, this casino is lightning-fast at seizing funds from duplicate accounts when the player wins. Why was I allowed to deposit and lose over €6,000 on a duplicate account after reporting my addiction?. The answer is simple: they knew I was an addict, they knew I was a duplicate, and they chose to profit instead of protecting me.
  • Rectification vs. Negligence: Even if we assume the system didn't flag me instantly, they have the tools to look back and rectify the situation once the link is proven. But they did... Because no first deposit bonus was earned as you know so it was auto flagged. Instead, they chose to hide behind the "no key" excuse for Live Support, despite activating "Withdraw Mode" later—a tool they denied having.

I ask @holydarkness: Do you truly believe the casino was unaware of my addiction after the playstyle, the emails, and the direct chat on Jan 9th?. They only "detected" me when I confronted them about the deposits. This isn't a failure of technology; it's a deliberate business choice to exploit a known vulnerable player.
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