Help needed for a forum member!

[DireWolfM14]

the situation is exactly as I described.

Your description is vague, I'm starting think it's intentional.  Answer the the following questions, don't deflect, and refrain from being vague.

1. Does the beneficiary gamble?
2. Why are the husband's wages insufficient?
3. What will the funds be used for?

[DrBeer]

the situation is exactly as I described.

Your description is vague, I'm starting think it's intentional.  Answer the the following questions, don't deflect, and refrain from being vague.

1. Does the beneficiary gamble?
2. Why are the husband's wages insufficient?
3. What will the funds be used for?

These are relevant questions, thank you. I will respond, although I have already answered some of them.
1. No, he is not involved in gambling.
2. Because a soldier's salary is quite low, from 20 to 30 thousand hryvnia, or approximately $450-680, provided that part of the uniform and other supplies must be purchased at their own expense. Today, this is their entire monthly income. I hope I don't need to provide information on food prices and the cost of raising a small child?
3. The main amount will go towards supporting the family and the small child, see point 2. A lot of money from existing reserves has already been spent on additional and new equipment and medical supplies (the winter in Ukraine was very cold this year). This purpose is stated in the first topic - financial assistance to a wife with a small child.

[DireWolfM14]

the situation is exactly as I described.

Your description is vague, I'm starting think it's intentional.  Answer the the following questions, don't deflect, and refrain from being vague.

1. Does the beneficiary gamble?
2. Why are the husband's wages insufficient?
3. What will the funds be used for?

These are relevant questions, thank you. I will respond, although I have already answered some of them.
1. No, he is not involved in gambling.
2. Because a soldier's salary is quite low, from 20 to 30 thousand hryvnia, or approximately $450-680, provided that part of the uniform and other supplies must be purchased at their own expense. Today, this is their entire monthly income. I hope I don't need to provide information on food prices and the cost of raising a small child?
3. The main amount will go towards supporting the family and the small child, see point 2. A lot of money from existing reserves has already been spent on additional and new equipment and medical supplies (the winter in Ukraine was very cold this year). This purpose is stated in the first topic - financial assistance to a wife with a small child.

According to a popular search engine a monthly salary of $680 should be sufficient for a "comfortable" although slightly budgeted life style.  Search parameters;

Code:

average cost of living in Ukraine

The cost of living in Ukraine is generally very affordable, often considered one of the lowest in Europe, with monthly expenses for a comfortable life ranging from $500–$1,500 per person depending on the city. Rent is the major expense, with a 1-bedroom city center apartment averaging 14,213.57 ₴ (~$350 USD), while groceries and utilities are low.

Average Monthly Costs (Approximate)
Comfortable Lifestyle: $700–$1,400 in major cities like Kyiv, Lviv, or Odesa.
Budget Lifestyle: $300–$400 in smaller cities or for students.
Rent (1-bedroom): 14,213.57 ₴ ($350) in center; 9,496.38 ₴ ($230) outside.
Utilities: ~3,256 ₴ ($80) for a 915 sq ft apartment.
Food/Groceries: $150–$200 per month is sufficient for a balanced diet.

Key Considerations
Location Impact: Kyiv is the most expensive, while smaller cities like Ivano-Frankivsk offer cheaper options ($270–$320 for basic living).
Currency: The official currency is the Ukrainian Hryvnia (UAH/₴).
Regional Factors: Due to the conflict, security risks can influence rental prices, with some areas being significantly cheaper.
Transportation: One-way local transport tickets are very cheap, costing around 14.00 ₴.
Healthcare: Public services are often free, but private clinics for specialized care range from $15 to $150 per visit.

Source

Honestly, it sounds like you're trying to subsidize an above average lifestyle at someone else's expense.  Once again you seem to be under the impression that you are entitled to other people's money.  I don't know where you get these ideas into your head, but what you really deserve is another red-tag, not any donations.

Edit to add: To address question number 1 above, and the way you answered it:  This seems rather dishonest.  It's gotten pretty clear that the acquaintance you're pleading for is Etranger, who is female, and is active in the gambling boards.  Yet, you answered the question by saying "No, he is not involved in gambling."  So, now you're talking about the husband solder.  I guess you did this so you wouldn't flat out lie, but it's just as dishonest as a flat out lie.

[DrBeer]

the situation is exactly as I described.

Your description is vague, I'm starting think it's intentional.  Answer the the following questions, don't deflect, and refrain from being vague.

1. Does the beneficiary gamble?
2. Why are the husband's wages insufficient?
3. What will the funds be used for?

These are relevant questions, thank you. I will respond, although I have already answered some of them.
1. No, he is not involved in gambling.
2. Because a soldier's salary is quite low, from 20 to 30 thousand hryvnia, or approximately $450-680, provided that part of the uniform and other supplies must be purchased at their own expense. Today, this is their entire monthly income. I hope I don't need to provide information on food prices and the cost of raising a small child?
3. The main amount will go towards supporting the family and the small child, see point 2. A lot of money from existing reserves has already been spent on additional and new equipment and medical supplies (the winter in Ukraine was very cold this year). This purpose is stated in the first topic - financial assistance to a wife with a small child.

According to a popular search engine a monthly salary of $680 should be sufficient for a "comfortable" although slightly budgeted life style.  Search parameters;

Code:

average cost of living in Ukraine

The cost of living in Ukraine is generally very affordable, often considered one of the lowest in Europe, with monthly expenses for a comfortable life ranging from $500–$1,500 per person depending on the city. Rent is the major expense, with a 1-bedroom city center apartment averaging 14,213.57 ₴ (~$350 USD), while groceries and utilities are low.

Average Monthly Costs (Approximate)
Comfortable Lifestyle: $700–$1,400 in major cities like Kyiv, Lviv, or Odesa.
Budget Lifestyle: $300–$400 in smaller cities or for students.
Rent (1-bedroom): 14,213.57 ₴ ($350) in center; 9,496.38 ₴ ($230) outside.
Utilities: ~3,256 ₴ ($80) for a 915 sq ft apartment.
Food/Groceries: $150–$200 per month is sufficient for a balanced diet.

Key Considerations
Location Impact: Kyiv is the most expensive, while smaller cities like Ivano-Frankivsk offer cheaper options ($270–$320 for basic living).
Currency: The official currency is the Ukrainian Hryvnia (UAH/₴).
Regional Factors: Due to the conflict, security risks can influence rental prices, with some areas being significantly cheaper.
Transportation: One-way local transport tickets are very cheap, costing around 14.00 ₴.
Healthcare: Public services are often free, but private clinics for specialized care range from $15 to $150 per visit.

Source

Honestly, it sounds like you're trying to subsidize an above average lifestyle at someone else's expense.  Once again you seem to be under the impression that you are entitled to other people's money.  I don't know where you get these ideas into your head, but what you really deserve is another red-tag, not any donations.

Sorry if this question seems rude, but do you live in Ukraine? I'm sure you don't. But I live here, and I KNOW and SEE how things really are here! I know how much food, utilities, medicine, medical supplies, services, and everything else costs. And I can honestly say that if we're talking about 20,000-25,000 UAH/month (a soldier's salary), which is about $450-570, that's VERY little for a family of three, especially with a child under one year old.  
I can suggest a game: ask the AI how a family of three, with a child under one year old, can live on a hypothetical 25,000 hryvnia. These are ideal conditions when the soldier gives all his money to his family and needs nothing for himself. Let's add some realism — utilities for a 2-3 room apartment, for example. Just ask for calculations that are current as of today, with the current exchange rate of $1 = 44 UAH.
And yes, to clarify, this is Kiev.

PS hmmmm... I looked at the same request... - you forgot to specify that the figures you gave are calculated for 1 (ONE) person. One WORKING person with the specified income. In this case, the situation is different: 3 people, 25,000 UAH per month for all three. “Working” - 1 person. Don't you think this is a slightly different situation?
 

[OgNasty]

Why isn’t the person being named if they are well known? Maybe some would want to help if they knew.

I think we all know families that could use some help. You have to ask yourself how things scale when using a public forum though. If everyone asked for help for those we know who need it, that’s all that would be posted here and it would disrupt discussion. I wish you luck in helping your friend.

[Kazkaz27]

I agree with much of the suspicion here. Which is unfortunate if someone is truly in need. “Exceptions” given by Theymos I can understand. Although, id like to know who thinks it's a good idea to donate to an anonymous user and trust that they give donations to a 3rd party?

The entire thing unfortunately just seems shady..

Maybe making it more personal would merit the community to give the situation more trust. Like who are you?, Let's see your face, hear your voice, and view the situation. Maybe making videos, sharing them with us and being 100% transparent would better allow everyone here to give from their hearts. Otherwise, I see you being accused for something you may or may not be guilty of. This community is the most superstitious I've ever seen. That being said, getting the rule “No Begging” taken away in order to allow you to receive donations for the situation might indeed merit exceptions (Work) on your end.

[Vod]

Manipulation of information, regular lies, accusations without proof, primitive insults when he cannot prove his morbid fantasies, inadequate behavior, resentful of all the more successful people, realizes his morbid complexes through pathetic attempts to insult and accuse other forum members. I do not put a red mark, as it is immoral to punish mentally unhealthy forum members. My words are confirmed by many dozens of user reviews about our sick “friend”, Vod

I am not the Ukrainian the OP is fundraising for.  

Edit:   Why did you think OP asked to post in Meta, where trust scores are not shown?    

[notocactus]

Edit:   Why did you think OP asked to post in Meta, where trust scores are not shown?    

Trust score visibility can be a reason or not a reason, only OP knows.

This thread is more fitted in the Reputation board that is for reputation threads, etc. while Meta board is for Discussion about the Bitcoin Forum.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Regardless the OP have the permission of the admins or not people will still ask for verification. And regardless if the post legit or not, people will still ask for proof. My questions are valid, so you should shut your mouth first. Do you understand how the forum was abused by "charities" back then?

Your "questions" are pure garbage because what you did was to not read the OP and write crap accordingly. Only after I pointed out that you did not read the OP you asked for

Edit: well, since its been agreed from the admin/s. At least give us the quote of the permission...

Do you really think he would have published this on Meta if he didn't have the permission? This thread would have been trashed in no time.

And now you have theymos acknowledgment.

What you've done is not read, write garbage as a result, and when you've been caught, act cocky.

In this thread, reasonable objections have been raised by people who have read the OP, unlike you.
 

[eternalgloom]

War is terrible but so is another burned trust fund.

I don't mean to sound rude, but why does she need a proxy fund raiser for that?

You say you know the family personally and can provide payment documents.
That is the easiest fix, post redacted screenshot of those document.

Why did you think OP asked to post in Meta, where trust scores are not shown?    

Wow that sucks, OP clearly knows his trust feedback would show low credibility, so he tried to dodge it.

@theymos already said he does not endorse or vouch for it. That should be the final warning.

[Majestic-milf]

Why isn’t the person being named if they are well known? Maybe some would want to help if they knew.

I think we all know families that could use some help. You have to ask yourself how things scale when using a public forum though. If everyone asked for help for those we know who need it, that’s all that would be posted here and it would disrupt discussion. I wish you luck in helping your friend.

I made the same observation and was given the explanation from the Op that he'd get her go-ahead before publishing her name and it kind of got me curious because since this is war and donations we're talking about, there's no need to feel shy about it. It's not like the husband asked to be enlisted just for the fun of it but rather to help restore peace in his own little way so I see no big deal trying to withhold the name.
 I'm sure the affected person must have tried to look for other means to source for funds but since there was no other option had to use the forum, despite knowing that donations are frowned upon here so going through someone else may not help her case, if anything.

[FinneysTrueVision]

It’s not a mystery on whose behalf you’re asking for donations. The BTC addresses has already interacted with an address used multiple times on the forum. I can’t say I’m familiar with this person because their posts are limited to sections I don’t visit often.

I don’t know this person’s character or their needs and like others said, there are plenty of other people that need help. I won’t question anybody’s motives, but I just can’t give money away so readily in this case.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Have read some of the post here and it only point to one direction, fear and lack of trust...everyone here who are ready to give are also trying to be careful since scammers have made people to start thinking twice before doing anything...so the questions and investigations on who's receiving the funds are valid, we don't need to blame anybody for asking. For me, if you like to donate you do it... currently you can't tell if the person in question is desperately in need of funds...like they say givers never lack and again, the affected person need to come out for many to believe that this is truly happening, these days we find it hard to trust the next person... don't say because Theymos said go ahead that why you want to donate and if something happens you start dropping pms on how to get your money back or fight for justice (just saying), if your mind says you should just do it and Op you know what to do to kill off these questions and double thoughts...this help is not coming direct from the source that's why.

[Zoomic]

He asked for a one-time exemption from the "no begging" rule, and since he's a Legendary member who's been actively posting for 10+ years, I decided to allow it. But I don't know DrBeer personally, I don't know anything about this specific case, and I don't vouch for him.

Does every legendary forum user who has been active for 10+ years have a one-time "no begging" rule exemption?

Lucius: Yes, that's true. $500 may seem like a lot of money to some people, but, although I don't really like to say it, the army's supplies are “lacking,” and often you have to buy some of your ammunition and medical supplies with your own money.  Therefore, $500 doesn't leave you with much money, because clothing and equipment wear out very quickly

Edit to add: To address question number 1 above, and the way you answered it:  This seems rather dishonest.  It's gotten pretty clear that the acquaintance you're pleading for is Etranger, who is female, and is active in the gambling boards.

I quoted the above 2 posts because I learnt that Op is asking for Etranger, and $500 monthly allowance also in view.

If Op, or the alleged victim could talk to a campaign manager, they might enroll her in $100 weekly campaign and this will be $400 a month. It will go a long way.
If I believe that the forum will come through for me in time of difficulty, I might stop thinking smart.

Edit: Just discovered Etranger is already in a $100/w campaign.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Edit: Just discovered Etranger is already in a $100/w campaign.

I won't say much about whether the OP's suggestion is good or not, but for the person the OP is talking about, the forum feature that says "alternative accounts on the forum are allowed" would be useful.
I think many people will agree that everyone has situations in which help would not be superfluous, but everyone tries to help themselves on their own.
The world is going crazy with wars right now, and there are a lot of people here who are suffering from these wars .

[Vod]

Etranger should not need a loan.    According to her defence in her last scam accusation, she was guaranteeing her request by substantial personal funds. 

Because we need the funds now. Our personal funds will be available only in mid-July. By that time, it can be late to build a farm, because we will lose a lot of time, moreover, bull oriented time. Even if we build it as fast as it could be, the farm will start operating no early than October of the next year. We are aiming to launch it in February 2025, therefore we will have 9 month more for generating bitcoin.

[DireWolfM14]

Edit: Just discovered Etranger is already in a $100/w campaign.

She's been tagged countless times in this thread, has been online since it's creation, and has made posts in other threads (including the gambling section,) yet hasn't bothered to chime in on this thread.  Not even to dispel our suspicions that the OP is about her.  How much effort would it take for here to post here telling us it's not her the OP is attempting to help?  Not very much.

Regardless, this is reflective of the ridiculous request to borrow $150k to squander on a lavish lifestyle while trying to borrow $40m.  Either these people have absolutely no relationship with reality or they are flat out scammers.  For the sake of being kind the last time I encountered them, I chose to believe it's the former.

Etranger should not need a loan.    According to her defence in her last scam accusation, she was guaranteeing her request by substantial personal funds. 

Because we need the funds now. Our personal funds will be available only in mid-July. By that time, it can be late to build a farm, because we will lose a lot of time, moreover, bull oriented time. Even if we build it as fast as it could be, the farm will start operating no early than October of the next year. We are aiming to launch it in February 2025, therefore we will have 9 month more for generating bitcoin.

It sounded like a lie then, and it's become pretty obvious that's indeed the case.