TopTort777
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Btw people are so blind to read that they suggest to use VPN only to access games that restrict you from playing. They dont say that VPN should be used to access casino from restricted country. People misunderstand that, will have their account banned/withdrawals cancelled, and will run online to complain about that  But isn't one of the reasons why we cannot access some casinos or games because they are not licensed to operate in our country? If that's the case, then using a VPN can look like bypassing that restriction just so we can play. I understand that sometimes the casino itself does not block our country, but certain game providers do. For me, that's still a restriction, just implemented by the provider instead of the casino. So if the casino is encouraging players to use a VPN specifically to get around that restriction, that's where it becomes questionable. It can look like they are helping users access something that was intentionally blocked in their jurisdiction. I cant give you correct answer on that, but there are some casinos, where I cant open slots from some providers, and sports betting are also restricted for my IP. However same slot easily opens in other casinos, as well as sports prediction. For example I cant access sports betting on stake and betfury, but can open it on earnbet and duelbits. All the Hacksaw gaming slots for some reason are restricted for me in any casino. In some casinos even Pragmatic slots refuse to open. I cant explain why this is so selective. But, I have accounts in all that casinos and my country is not restricted. The way I get it, VPN that Bitz advertise only open access to all gambling games, but casino still dont allow users from restricted countries to have an account.
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panjul07
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Today at 11:41:03 AM |
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I cant give you correct answer on that, but there are some casinos, where I cant open slots from some providers, and sports betting are also restricted for my IP. However same slot easily opens in other casinos, as well as sports prediction. For example I cant access sports betting on stake and betfury, but can open it on earnbet and duelbits. All the Hacksaw gaming slots for some reason are restricted for me in any casino. In some casinos even Pragmatic slots refuse to open. I cant explain why this is so selective. But, I have accounts in all that casinos and my country is not restricted. The way I get it, VPN that Bitz advertise only open access to all gambling games, but casino still dont allow users from restricted countries to have an account. There must be something like a "deal" or "agreement" between the casino and the provider, that's why we can play specific provider some casinos but we cant play it in some other casinos. This is also why many casinos allow players to use VPN to bypass the restriction by providers, as long as it is confirmed by the casino that using VPN to access specific providers, it means that the casino is responsible for it. Not only Bitz, but all other casinos that allow users to use VPN does not mean that players are allowed to use VPN to bypass the countries restriction by the casino.
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YellowSwap
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Today at 12:13:06 PM |
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If you think I am lying this is it:  Just make sure you are gambling from the country they support. I am not getting your point here, Bitz supports VPN connection, they have one obviously but you now saying that people should make sure they are gambling from country they support is confusing. Everyone that are from supported countries won't have any reasons to use VPN in the first place, it's always those who are restricted or from unsupported location will want to use VPN connection. Am I wrong about this? Because I don't see any reasons to use VPN unless my location isn't supported, my advice is use casinos that supports your location, if it's not supporting your location better find another, to avoid stories later.
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PostQuantumBTC (OP)
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Today at 12:20:00 PM |
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I am not getting your point here, Bitz supports VPN connection, they have one obviously but you now saying that people should make sure they are gambling from country they support is confusing.
Everyone that are from supported countries won't have any reasons to use VPN in the first place, it's always those who are restricted or from unsupported location will want to use VPN connection.
Am I wrong about this? Because I don't see any reasons to use VPN unless my location isn't supported, my advice is use casinos that supports your location, if it's not supporting your location better find another, to avoid stories later.
A gambling site may allow people from a country but the game provider may not allow the people from the country. VPN can help in that situation. There are some people that gamble from countries that are not restricted but using VPN. Some people can be afraid, but with Bitz VPN, they will not be afraid because the VPN is controlled by Bitz.
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Questat
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Today at 12:20:29 PM |
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I cant give you correct answer on that, but there are some casinos, where I cant open slots from some providers, and sports betting are also restricted for my IP. However same slot easily opens in other casinos, as well as sports prediction. For example I cant access sports betting on stake and betfury, but can open it on earnbet and duelbits. All the Hacksaw gaming slots for some reason are restricted for me in any casino. In some casinos even Pragmatic slots refuse to open. I cant explain why this is so selective. But, I have accounts in all that casinos and my country is not restricted. The way I get it, VPN that Bitz advertise only open access to all gambling games, but casino still dont allow users from restricted countries to have an account.
In that case, Bitz is probably aware that it's more like a technical restriction or bug, not something directly related to a country's law. So if they themselves allow users to use a VPN to access the games, then I don't see much problem with it. After all, the casino is still the one responsible for the account and payments, while the game providers are mainly just supplying the games. So I guess that's the simple way to look at it. I wouldn't overthink it too much, as long as the casino itself is giving users a solution to access the games, then that's already a good sign.
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Floczy
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Today at 02:29:05 PM |
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You can see this issue: Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594036.msg67140340#msg67140340Why are gambling sites not making it easy for those that are not gambling from countries that are not banned? You can see that Bitz make it easy. If you think I am lying this is it:  Just make sure you are gambling from the country they support. Read terms and conditions to know that. What if other gambling sites are doing this? You can download the VPN through links on Bitz. When you say they make it easy.. Do you mean it's that they provide vpn links for users in countries that are restricted? If that's the case, then one reasons some casinos do not provide VPN is because they might not want to encourage users bypassing their geographical restrictions to avoid some KYC, or payment problems. It's not about it wanting to make things easier or whatsoever it's more about trying to make things less complicated for the casino
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xenomorfo
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Today at 04:01:33 PM |
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of course this certainly helps, it works from a mobile phone right? I repeat, it seems like a fantastic idea to me and the solutions also to explain how it works and how to use it, just do them in English and then everyone translates them on their own, it really seems like a very good solution to me.
I have found it on chrome so far, maybe it will work on laptop or computer too because it also has chrome. Although bitz has made it easy for 11 languages in its joy, including English. Although if it does not apply to you, i have told you this method and this time i will try to change it and show it. Honestly, this is a very useful thing. It does not only work in it, but also in every place where you do not understand the language in chrome. It also works on Bitcointalk, when we want to teach someone else's language, it switches us to English and we can read easily. Thank you for taking the time to explain to me how it works and how it works as a phone I'm an absolute wreck, just the total opposite of a person who understands computers or these modern technological gadgets. now i will definitely be able to translate without copying, pasting and switching to google translate.
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PostQuantumBTC (OP)
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Today at 04:43:17 PM |
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When you say they make it easy..
Do you mean it's that they provide vpn links for users in countries that are restricted?
No, that is not that I am talking about at all. If anyone is from one of the countries that Blitz do not allow, it is better such person do not gamble on the gambling site. The Blitz VPN is centralized and not Tor but controlled by Bitz. That will even make it easier for Bitz to know anyone that is not gambling from the countries they do not restrict.
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DPHOR
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Today at 08:17:34 PM |
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This is one thing that makes me like about this gambling site and from my view I haven't seen any allegations against them. If you look from other casinos the you would see that there is a big difference in them because most of the casinos do not even allowed or permits the use of VPN as it is their major targets points where you wouldn't in any way try to use them if they do not announce it on their gambling site, the funniest thing is that, there are some casinos that proves to VPN proves casino but when there is a bigger winning they start doing their audits to know if actually there is any account that is connected to them. But bitz do not do that for any reason.
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Sunshine1525
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Today at 08:31:21 PM |
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I checked their ANN and I've seen lots of good comments about the gambling site both from people who wear their avatar and signature and those who don't so if people could talk good about them to an extent it means they're a reputable casinos. Well it's cool that they're making it easy for gamblers.
Although my question is, can people use another VPN to login their site or they strictly recommend people to use Bitz VPN to login?
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Ayers
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Today at 09:01:57 PM |
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But isn't one of the reasons why we cannot access some casinos or games because they are not licensed to operate in our country? If that's the case, then using a VPN can look like bypassing that restriction just so we can play. I understand that sometimes the casino itself does not block our country, but certain game providers do. For me, that's still a restriction, just implemented by the provider instead of the casino. So if the casino is encouraging players to use a VPN specifically to get around that restriction, that's where it becomes questionable. It can look like they are helping users access something that was intentionally blocked in their jurisdiction.
I cant give you correct answer on that, but there are some casinos, where I cant open slots from some providers, and sports betting are also restricted for my IP. However same slot easily opens in other casinos, as well as sports prediction. For example I cant access sports betting on stake and betfury, but can open it on earnbet and duelbits. All the Hacksaw gaming slots for some reason are restricted for me in any casino. In some casinos even Pragmatic slots refuse to open. I cant explain why this is so selective. But, I have accounts in all that casinos and my country is not restricted. The way I get it, VPN that Bitz advertise only open access to all gambling games, but casino still dont allow users from restricted countries to have an account. I have come across many instance where white label casinos restrict user account and citing game provider as the reason. What happens if provider simply states, These particular bets were flagged as suspicious or irregular in our system? Can casino confiscate our account balance in such a scenario? If this happens then is there any risk of conflict arising between casino and provider if any player has played using a VPN?
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Sticky Bomb
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Today at 09:11:23 PM |
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Btw people are so blind to read that they suggest to use VPN only to access games that restrict you from playing. They dont say that VPN should be used to access casino from restricted country. People misunderstand that, will have their account banned/withdrawals cancelled, and will run online to complain about that  But isn't one of the reasons why we cannot access some casinos or games because they are not licensed to operate in our country? If that's the case, then using a VPN can look like bypassing that restriction just so we can play. I understand that sometimes the casino itself does not block our country, but certain game providers do. For me, that's still a restriction, just implemented by the provider instead of the casino. So if the casino is encouraging players to use a VPN specifically to get around that restriction, that's where it becomes questionable. It can look like they are helping users access something that was intentionally blocked in their jurisdiction. In this case, if the casino permits using VPN, I will use it to bypass such game providers restriction because I'm a client of the casino and not the game providers. The only thing I see as a crime is when you attempt using a VPN to bypass casino restricted countries and not that of a game provider. I've not been in this situation before, but stated above is exactly what I would do since the casino didn't state in their T&C that "if a game provider restricts you, you cannot use VPN to bypass it".
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coinlary
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Today at 09:34:27 PM |
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Another question, I don't know if this has been asked by anyone else because the thread is getting long already, so I only read page one and two before concluding and asking if there's any detailed note on what the configuration file contains? Yeah, I know it's meant to work like an extra sauce VPN, but still, it's better to know what exactly was configured and why it was required. I've never used Amnezia, but I'm familiar with the name. I still don't like the idea of downloading a VPN setup just to gamble on a casino 
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ZAINmalik75
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Today at 10:22:35 PM |
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A gambling site may allow people from a country but the game provider may not allow the people from the country. VPN can help in that situation.
I don't know if Blitz has any information available about this or not, but they should definitely provide more details about why they are giving the opportunity to use VPN on their platform, because some people might misunderstand this and thing that even if they are from a country which Blitz doesn't support, they can also use the platform with this VPN, but that's not what the VPN is for, it is only to remove restrictions imposed by game providers. There are some people that gamble from countries that are not restricted but using VPN. Some people can be afraid, but with Bitz VPN, they will not be afraid because the VPN is controlled by Bitz.
Some people feel afraid because some casinos are against the usage of VPN, and some are afraid because they are basically using VPNs to bypass geographical restrictions as I mentioned above, because if a casino allows using VPN but has your country restricted, that doesn't mean you are allowed to gamble with them, because even if you use a VPN and gamble, as soon as they find out, they are just going to block your account and you will lose any money you have in your account.
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Miles2006
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Today at 10:29:43 PM |
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You can see this issue: Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594036.msg67140340#msg67140340Why are gambling sites not making it easy for those that are not gambling from countries that are not banned? You can see that Bitz make it easy. If you think I am lying this is it:  Just make sure you are gambling from the country they support. Read terms and conditions to know that. What if other gambling sites are doing this? You can download the VPN through links on Bitz. When you say they make it easy.. Do you mean it's that they provide vpn links for users in countries that are restricted? If that's the case, then one reasons some casinos do not provide VPN is because they might not want to encourage users bypassing their geographical restrictions to avoid some KYC, or payment problems. It's not about it wanting to make things easier or whatsoever it's more about trying to make things less complicated for the casino Casinos now offer the free use of VPN to bypass restriction, not all casino reason why we should understand the casino first before making deposit. Like for example, the issue with KYC has been trending and casinos involve in this don’t ask for KYC information at first when making registration but, during later time when a gambler is ready to make withdrawal the request for KYC is needed or else no withdrawal. I understand op, this offer is different viewing the VPN provider is already inbuilt in the site although it doesn’t really matter because VPN generally can be accessible aside the site provided VPN, the use of VPN is now accessible by many casino, genuine gamblers use this option when their location got restricted and they’re interested to play a game.
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CryptoBuds
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Today at 10:50:54 PM |
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Am I wrong about this? Because I don't see any reasons to use VPN unless my location isn't supported, my advice is use casinos that supports your location, if it's not supporting your location better find another, to avoid stories later.
I don't entirely agree that there is no legitimate use for VPN just because any country is supported. After reading others comment here, don't you realize that restriction imposed by casino and game provider can differ? Suppose my country is supported by Bitz. However any specific provider might not be serving game to my IP address for many reason. In that case VPN could be used solely to bypass that specific game provider's restriction. It is not to bypass country level restriction in general.
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Ojima-ojo
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Today at 11:46:20 PM |
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Another question, I don't know if this has been asked by anyone else because the thread is getting long already, so I only read page one and two before concluding and asking if there's any detailed note on what the configuration file contains? Yeah, I know it's meant to work like an extra sauce VPN, but still, it's better to know what exactly was configured and why it was required. I've never used Amnezia, but I'm familiar with the name. I still don't like the idea of downloading a VPN setup just to gamble on a casino  My advice and stand personally is that, you should not use VPN on any casino for whatever reason, if your country is restricted on certain casino the reputable thing to do is to move on to another casino that is legal on your country of registration. This point leads you to the conclusion of whatever could be the outcome of some of the actions you take against the casino laws and guidelines, like the unregulated use of a VPN just to bypass a casino restriction.
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