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Author Topic: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool  (Read 794124 times)
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July 24, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
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If miner filters out all high shares, then he also makes less profit, because less shares are being sent.

Maybe someone is trying to hurt your business. Also he wouldn't make much less profit, he only filters out very difficult shares, the shares that are much more difficult than the easy shares that are used to count the hash rate. Unfortunately on p2pool also the difficult shares are needed, these are the shares that solve the blocks on the p2pool internal share chain, they are so high that only very few per hour are solved by an average miner. It reports the hash rate correctly with the help of the easy shares but it can't solve any p2pool share chain blocks which are needed to get reward on p2pool.

I have had it running now for 19.5 hours @ 20 TH/s, here are the results:



start: 22:30
end:   18:00
duration: 70200 seconds

my rate:     17.8 TH/s (average during above period)
pool rate: 1050.0 TH/s (average during above period)

expected time to share: 884 s  (=  15s * 1050 / 17.8 )
expected shares total:  79

actual shares total:    33  (4 orphan, 0 dead)


The hash rate that comes from nicehash is definitely poisoned. Maybe I should rent some more and point it to GHash.IO where It counts only the low difficulty shares.


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July 24, 2014, 04:22:47 PM
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If miner filters out all high shares, then he also makes less profit, because less shares are being sent.

Maybe someone is trying to hurt your business. Also he wouldn't make much less profit, he only filters out very difficult shares, the shares that are much more difficult than the easy shares that are used to count the hash rate. Unfortunately on p2pool also the difficult shares are needed, these are the shares that solve the blocks on the p2pool internal share chain, they are so high that only very few per hour are solved by an average miner. It reports the hash rate correctly with the help of the easy shares but it can't solve any p2pool share chain blocks which are needed to get reward on p2pool.

I have had it running now for 19.5 hours @ 20 TH/s, here are the results:



start: 22:30
end:   18:00
duration: 70200 seconds

my rate:     17.8 TH/s (average during above period)
pool rate: 1050.0 TH/s (average during above period)

expected time to share: 884 s  (=  15s * 1050 / 17.Cool
expected shares total:  79

actual shares total:    33  (4 orphan, 0 dead)[/font][/font]



The hash rate that comes from nicehash is definitely poisoned. Maybe I should rent some more and point it to GHash.IO where It counts only the low difficulty shares.



Basically, every pool is vulnerable to this kind of attack at the end then. Unfortunately, nothing comes to my mind what we could do to resolve this issue. It is the fundamental issue of pooled mining in my opinion. But I doubt that the majority of provided hashrate is poisoned. And if it bothers you so much, then I suggest you to not use p2p pools.
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July 24, 2014, 05:31:25 PM
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If miner filters out all high shares, then he also makes less profit, because less shares are being sent.

Maybe someone is trying to hurt your business. Also he wouldn't make much less profit, he only filters out very difficult shares, the shares that are much more difficult than the easy shares that are used to count the hash rate. Unfortunately on p2pool also the difficult shares are needed, these are the shares that solve the blocks on the p2pool internal share chain, they are so high that only very few per hour are solved by an average miner. It reports the hash rate correctly with the help of the easy shares but it can't solve any p2pool share chain blocks which are needed to get reward on p2pool.

I have had it running now for 19.5 hours @ 20 TH/s, here are the results:



start: 22:30
end:   18:00
duration: 70200 seconds

my rate:     17.8 TH/s (average during above period)
pool rate: 1050.0 TH/s (average during above period)

expected time to share: 884 s  (=  15s * 1050 / 17.Cool
expected shares total:  79

actual shares total:    33  (4 orphan, 0 dead)[/font][/font]



The hash rate that comes from nicehash is definitely poisoned. Maybe I should rent some more and point it to GHash.IO where It counts only the low difficulty shares.



Basically, every pool is vulnerable to this kind of attack at the end then. Unfortunately, nothing comes to my mind what we could do to resolve this issue. It is the fundamental issue of pooled mining in my opinion. But I doubt that the majority of provided hashrate is poisoned. And if it bothers you so much, then I suggest you to not use p2p pools.
37 vs 79 shares is within perfectly reasonable margin of error, too... It's nonsense to conclude from those results that "The hash rate that comes from nicehash is definitely poisoned" - complete nonsense.

I can show you plenty of mining stats that line up with that margin of error (e.g. I have found 1/3 as many blocks as expected, and over 3x as many blocks as expected over long long mining periods before).
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July 24, 2014, 05:32:12 PM
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how can a 10 MH/s Scrypt rig produces 864 GH in one day.  it produces 10mh a day ty
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July 24, 2014, 05:53:21 PM
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how can a 10 MH/s Scrypt rig produces 864 GH in one day.  it produces 10mh a day ty

Same way a train going at 50 miles per hour would do 1200 miles per day.

There are 86400 seconds in a day, if that helps.
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July 24, 2014, 09:48:03 PM
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how can a 10 MH/s Scrypt rig produces 864 GH in one day.  it produces 10mh a day ty

Same way a train going at 50 miles per hour would do 1200 miles per day.

There are 86400 seconds in a day, if that helps.


LOL , good one and well said
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July 24, 2014, 10:05:43 PM
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37 vs 79 shares is within perfectly reasonable margin of error, too... It's nonsense to conclude from those results

Its going on for a while now. Every time I compare the expected shares with my actual shares I see these discrepancies, I have seen it even worse. Yesterday I mined for over an hour with 60TH/s, I provided 5% of the entire p2pool during this time I should have found 12 shares and found only 2.

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July 24, 2014, 10:36:17 PM
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how can a 10 MH/s Scrypt rig produces 864 GH in one day.  it produces 10mh a day ty

Same way a train going at 50 miles per hour would do 1200 miles per day.

There are 86400 seconds in a day, if that helps.


ok now i see you multiple it by seconds  thanks  Smiley
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July 25, 2014, 07:27:34 AM
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how can a 10 MH/s Scrypt rig produces 864 GH in one day.  it produces 10mh a day ty

Same way a train going at 50 miles per hour would do 1200 miles per day.

There are 86400 seconds in a day, if that helps.


ok now i see you multiple it by seconds  thanks  Smiley

That's what the /s means Wink
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July 25, 2014, 09:26:01 AM
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To make it easier to get started with NiceHash mining, I've created a guide with preconfigured settings for NiceHash using Awesome Miner.

Awesome Miner will also show the current profitability of the current NiceHash pool.


More information about this software can be found in this thread.

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July 25, 2014, 11:13:47 AM
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Getting reject rates of 23% over the last couple of hours. DDOS again?
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July 25, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
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Hi

this is small tool for android devices to monitor your NiceHash stats

This release is optimized for small res display  Smiley

It is my first android app so please be patient. Any feedback and comments are welcome.

In settings you need to enter your mining address and hashrates for all algos in kH/s.
You heed to hit REFRESH button to refresh stats, please keep in mind that NiceHash API is refreshed every 30 sec.

https://i.imgur.com/Ul7cKSC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/c9Lheld.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Q5wFsBw.jpg
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https://mega.co.nz/#!MJdQmZgL!Wx8_4Nm-E3W0t559ruJuHrWGhoE5DYnvOSZtzigjagU

Small update

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gjxv0mt65ru85q6/HiceHash_stats.apk

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/gjxv0mt65ru85q6/HiceHash_stats.apk


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https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9j2wgx5923axub/NiceHash_stats.apk

Now it's on Google Play Store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vancomdev.martinv.nicehash_stats
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July 25, 2014, 01:15:09 PM
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Please add a history method to API. For example:

orders.get&history - Get completed orders for a selected algo
Parameters:
id - API ID.
key - API Key.
algo - Algorithm marked with ID.

Also, there could be pool_url parameter to load orders for a selected pool
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July 26, 2014, 04:24:00 AM
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Your service got to my review of Mining rigs and Cloud hashing - http://fuk.io/cloud-hashing-and-rig-renting-services-review

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July 26, 2014, 05:03:10 PM
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Anybody know wth this monster farm is?

https://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=miners&a=4&addr=1K73698gHwof1zN37ujqWh9Q9TABk8in5b

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July 26, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
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Cannot reach wallet Sad
https://nicehash.com/?p=wallet


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July 26, 2014, 08:36:21 PM
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Cannot reach wallet Sad
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July 26, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
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I was one of the first to notice and report this problem to NH.  I asked for a refund on only one of the many orders that delivered about 16% of the hash I paid for.  They refused to give a refund on even one small order, which I told them there were a few others as well.  Then they asked for all kinds of pool information and my first born child before they would even look into a refund.  Since my orders were only about .04 btc, I didn't want to bother IPO's pool owner, he does a great job and doesn't need this hassle.  All I can say to Nice Hash is that whenever I have rented from Mining Rig Rentals or Betarigs, and there was a problem, I was quickly refunded for the lost hash, no questions asked.  NiceHash has not been very "Nice" to it's core renters, and if this continues, I can only see a competitor sprouting up that will offer the same service, and with the same customer support and refund policies as Betarigs or MRR.  I have put a trademark name on this new company, FairHash, so if any devs are interested in starting it, just let me know, and I only want a "Fair" compensation for my name.

Lol, I'm sorry, but what kind refund do you want? Smiley
You pay only for valid shares.

Ah, I see, "miningrentals" in signature. Direct competitors? Wink

I can confirm this issue aswell.

There are a lot of users who complained about hashing at a pool, having their btc SPENT on nicehash but not getting any shares. How come are they charged for shares never submitted at the pool?

Multiple users, on multiple pools. This issue is present with all the proper big pools around, including ours.

This is clearly a nicehash issue, and we'd like them to improve their service.

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July 27, 2014, 09:21:09 AM
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how can a 10 MH/s Scrypt rig produces 864 GH in one day.  it produces 10mh a day ty

Same way a train going at 50 miles per hour would do 1200 miles per day.

There are 86400 seconds in a day, if that helps.


ok again thanks i forgot the h/s " seconds "

now can you please explain please how i can rent lets say  800mh/s for say  3hrs
its very confusing and they dont say how much it cost per  i would greatly appreciate it  Smiley
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July 27, 2014, 11:56:13 AM
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how can a 10 MH/s Scrypt rig produces 864 GH in one day.  it produces 10mh a day ty

Same way a train going at 50 miles per hour would do 1200 miles per day.

There are 86400 seconds in a day, if that helps.


ok again thanks i forgot the h/s " seconds "

now can you please explain please how i can rent lets say  800mh/s for say  3hrs
its very confusing and they dont say how much it cost per  i would greatly appreciate it  Smiley

Like this:



It's very simple math. Select your desired speed and price, then change your budget until you get the desired time (if you don't want to use all your budget).
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