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April 19, 2014, 07:56:50 AM
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Asking myself why the moderation of threads not really works?
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April 19, 2014, 08:13:21 AM
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eg?

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April 19, 2014, 08:14:29 AM
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Asking myself why the moderation of threads not really works?
What are you trying to say here? That the moderators are bad/biased? I feel that they're alright.
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April 19, 2014, 08:19:53 AM
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I'm pretty ok with a moderation that just removes blatant spam and does not take sides otherwise.
People have to learn how to spot scammers, so I don't think that mods should remove them.

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April 19, 2014, 09:01:10 AM
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IMHO, the mods are doing their jobs pretty well.

Asking myself why the moderation of threads not really works?

Care to elaborate a bit?
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April 19, 2014, 10:18:34 AM
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You don't even have a single report.

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April 19, 2014, 11:18:37 AM
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You don't even have a single report.

he can't defend the accusations against his business so he wants you to it for him.

please see this post and below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522623.msg6227485#msg6227485

my language has been slightly colourful on occasion but you will understand why if you read the above.

he has been posting in every thread i have posted in and trying to defame my character, posting snippets from other posts to make me look bad. he has no intention of being in these posts apart from to defame me. no joke, he specifically went through my post history to do this, and has specifically targeted me across the forum. if this sort of harassment isn't reason enough to be warned or banned i don't know what is.

every claim he is going to make he has done ten times worse. please be very careful believing what he says.

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April 19, 2014, 12:21:44 PM
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...6) or talk some serious shit about the Green Bay Packers!


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April 19, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
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If you want to test the lameness of the moderators try to post any spam
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April 19, 2014, 04:21:54 PM
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I think that he's trying to say that self moderated threads are lame, right?

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April 19, 2014, 05:05:21 PM
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Moderation is...so-so. Bitcointalk has some very strong points with it's moderation policies but it also has some very weak points.

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April 19, 2014, 05:18:18 PM
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Moderation is...so-so. Bitcointalk has some very strong points with it's moderation policies but it also has some very weak points.
Care to bring some up?
I'm curious on what you have in mind exactly.

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April 19, 2014, 05:51:39 PM
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Well the most classic point which comes off the top of my head is that while the mod team doesn't do too much - which is good, they aren't clawing up your leg every 5 minutes - they in some cases don't do enough. mprep is a good example of someone who does a good job, getting rid of ref spam, etc, but scams are allowed to run wild in other sections when there could be measures simply put in place which would reduce the amount of scams significantly. I guess it's more of an administrative issue than a moderation issue, but it's still there.

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April 20, 2014, 02:36:05 AM
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They are pretty decent at removing spam I guess.

Would be good to see some autonomy and decision making for themselves but always have to get approval or permission from theymos which hinders smooth, efficient moderation
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April 20, 2014, 03:11:47 AM
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I see spam everywhere and a handfull of Mods can't tackle hundred or thousands of spam posts effectively. 

Absolutely they can!  One just needs to use the "Report to Moderator" link at the bottom right of each post when they see spam.

Non-coincidently, the number of reports you make is one metric Theymos uses to promote new moderators.  Smiley


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April 20, 2014, 03:45:21 AM
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They are pretty decent at removing spam I guess.

Would be good to see some autonomy and decision making for themselves but always have to get approval or permission from theymos which hinders smooth, efficient moderation

Actually mods have a fair amount of autonomy on anything related to posts.  Though temp bans have to be run up the chain.
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April 20, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
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They are pretty decent at removing spam I guess.

Would be good to see some autonomy and decision making for themselves but always have to get approval or permission from theymos which hinders smooth, efficient moderation

Actually mods have a fair amount of autonomy on anything related to posts.  Though temp bans have to be run up the chain.
That shouldn't be necessary for temporary bans which aren't even that long.

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April 20, 2014, 09:27:27 AM
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It's more a limitation of SMF, not an arbitrary decision.

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April 20, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
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It's more a limitation of SMF, not an arbitrary decision.

They are pretty decent at removing spam I guess.

Would be good to see some autonomy and decision making for themselves but always have to get approval or permission from theymos which hinders smooth, efficient moderation

Actually mods have a fair amount of autonomy on anything related to posts.  Though temp bans have to be run up the chain.

I asked mikemikemike stopping for trolling in our thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522623.msg6172302#msg6172302

He just continued

I asked mods to make something against posts in our threads which are offensive. So mikemikemike called my p.e. 'little piece of shit' over and over again. He said, 'will destroy your project and kill you'. I asked mods for removing or stopping mikemikemike to write in our thread, no answer.

Not acting on:


'you little piece of shit' (not just once but all over again in almost every post)


'will destroy your project and kill you' (its still in the petamine thread)


and summary:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577093.msg6299719#msg6299719

by not banning user is weird.


User is still offending us, just today, by offending other user to be bcmine.

BCMINE, its nice to see you have another account!



The thing about his serious posts is that he is lieying all around. Pointing on him about, that he is lieying, he is editing his previous posts and saying that you are lieying. So there is no way of talking with him seriously, even he is saying he is serious about something.

I asked him 4 times friendly to stop posting in my thread, in a friendly way, over 4 days. He did not stopp. offensive language, barely arguments. he just want to knock you down.  offensive and personaly attacking all the time and saying i have to defense myself with argument. Such a discussion is not possible.


The only possibility we found was to go away from bitcointalk.org, because of public relations, which are more harming as helping us here. Anyway, decission was made. Fullstop about that.



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April 20, 2014, 01:36:20 PM
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Being offensive isn't against the rules.  

And dude, you're starting an IPO, you're going to have detractors, some won't be very nice about it. Reacting the way you are is just suspicious as hell. But yes leaving is probably your best option, you need to develop some thicker skin.

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