Playing HYIP's and Who to Avoid - AVOID Bitcoin-Trader & Rockwell-Partners.com

[yonce]

yonce whats your say about finmutual

I'm optimistic at least for the moment. Very odd for a big long term paying program to go scam in a matter of hours. See how the weekend turns out.

[wahldo]

sad that Rockwell went down...invested the min. when they first came online...received my initial investment back along with about .25 Bitcoin in profits; I know, not much, but it was fun while it lasted 

[Berardesco]

I am so glad I saw this. I was going to jump into rockwell. Yonce I sent you a p.m. Would really like  to learn how to play.

[DaveQB]

yonce whats your say about finmutual

I'm optimistic at least for the moment. Very odd for a big long term paying program to go scam in a matter of hours. See how the weekend turns out.

I was coming here to ask about thoughts on FinMutual (and Rockwell) going scam. So you still think there is a chance for the ship to straightened?

http://money-news-online.com/blog/2014/06/20/20062014-daily-news-hyip-industry/

Unfortunately FinMutual is a proven scam now and no further investments there are recommended. The program has been huge and only the second best after RockwellPartners, so losing two top programs in the matter of two days would be a huge blow for investors. Sadly, I can’t say that the admin of FinMutual behaves so honorably, preferring to lie about the problems while giving his investors false hope for further revival. Just yesterday he sent three lengthy updates, but no payouts. That became quite a concerning fact to me this morning when I realized that despite his promises no payouts had been made for the last 48 hours. I immediately contacted him for clarification, but, unlike many other times when he was quite responsive I was simply given a copy-pasted response from one of his latest emails. So I moved FinMutual to Problem status on my monitor, after which was not surprised to see the admin cancel all the pending withdrawals and send a hastily contrived story about a hacker.

[yonce]

yonce whats your say about finmutual

I'm optimistic at least for the moment. Very odd for a big long term paying program to go scam in a matter of hours. See how the weekend turns out.

I was coming here to ask about thoughts on FinMutual (and Rockwell) going scam. So you still think there is a chance for the ship to straightened?

http://money-news-online.com/blog/2014/06/20/20062014-daily-news-hyip-industry/

Unfortunately FinMutual is a proven scam now and no further investments there are recommended. The program has been huge and only the second best after RockwellPartners, so losing two top programs in the matter of two days would be a huge blow for investors. Sadly, I can’t say that the admin of FinMutual behaves so honorably, preferring to lie about the problems while giving his investors false hope for further revival. Just yesterday he sent three lengthy updates, but no payouts. That became quite a concerning fact to me this morning when I realized that despite his promises no payouts had been made for the last 48 hours. I immediately contacted him for clarification, but, unlike many other times when he was quite responsive I was simply given a copy-pasted response from one of his latest emails. So I moved FinMutual to Problem status on my monitor, after which was not surprised to see the admin cancel all the pending withdrawals and send a hastily contrived story about a hacker.

I think as of now it is safe to say Rockwell and finmutual are both scam's and done. Hopefully into a new site in the next few weeks!

[DaveQB]

Cryptory is very much like bitcoin-trader but based on mining instead of arbitrage.

Both are low earners but makes them more viable long term.

Edit: that is if you believe they are not just ponzi schemes.

[sameev29]

Cryptory is very much like bitcoin-trader but based on mining instead of arbitrage.

Both are low earners but makes them more viable long term.

Edit: that is if you believe they are not just ponzi schemes.

Its gambling man.You have risk in the world of gambling.But so far Cryptory is paying all properly.

[Seretonin]

Yonce, where have you gone? You seem to have gone very quiet since Finmutual collapsed.

I find it weird that the man who claims to knows all about HYIPs and has numerous 'industry' connections didn't see this coming.

[sameev29]

Yonce, where have you gone? You seem to have gone very quiet since Finmutual collapsed.

I find it weird that the man who claims to knows all about HYIPs and has numerous 'industry' connections didn't see this coming.

I was also thinking the same.He claimed he has links and can keep his referrals safe,so how did this happen?

Anyway now Cryptory is the program which seems to be standing and paying users.

[Seretonin]

I'm optimistic at least for the moment. Very odd for a big long term paying program to go scam in a matter of hours. See how the weekend turns out.

Love your double standards Yonce.

As soon as there was a whiff of problems at other HYIPs that you didn't push such as Rockwell & Btc-Arbs you jumped on the opportunity to call them out for being scams (and rightfully so!) but when there were indications that Finmutual was finished, which started as early as the 17th of June (not in a matter of hours as you claim), you failed to even bring it up on these forums, and when someone did you basically disregarded it at first.

I have a near flawless record in HYIP investing over the past year and over a 1000% return last year. Those who play the HYIP's above won't ever have similar results

Hows that near flawless record going?

[yonce]

I'm optimistic at least for the moment. Very odd for a big long term paying program to go scam in a matter of hours. See how the weekend turns out.

Love your double standards Yonce.

As soon as there was a whiff of problems at other HYIPs that you didn't push such as Rockwell & Btc-Arbs you jumped on the opportunity to call them out for being scams (and rightfully so!) but when there were indications that Finmutual was finished, which started as early as the 17th of June (not in a matter of hours as you claim), you failed to even bring it up on these forums, and when someone did you basically disregarded it at first.

I have a near flawless record in HYIP investing over the past year and over a 1000% return last year. Those who play the HYIP's above won't ever have similar results

Hows that near flawless record going?

First and foremost my responsibility is to my downline, not to random people on this forum. If I don't speak to you on a regular basis over email or skype, then don't expect me to jump on here to immediately warn people about a program I am in that might be in trouble or not.

I warned about Finmutual on Sunday the 22nd on this thread. If you don't talk to me personally, don't expect me to banter about programs I am in if things start to go sour on a public forum. I have investments to protect and keep conversation private between me and my referrals if a program becomes unstable. The only thing posting publicly would do is guarantee my referrals and I to stop receiving payouts.

My last payout and recorded payouts from my refs were on Thursday the 19th of June in Finmutual. It was a matter of hours at least for my refs and I. For a program that paid for almost a year, it shouldn't have stopped paying in a matter of hours. And it was cold turkey. Big and small. A program of Finmutual's size should have had a period of selective payouts long before it stopped paying. No idea what happened to Finmutual, but is dead now, but did well for me. On the other hand, Rockwell and Btc-arbs paid for between 3-4 months each. They were both crap HYIP's run by admins not intending to go the distance.

My near flawless record is fine, thanks for asking.

As of now the only program me and my downline are in is Cryptory. The world cup has been in full swing and its a dead zone of the year of the HYIP industry. Maybe log off for a bit yourself and it might ease your mind.

[yonce]

Yonce, where have you gone? You seem to have gone very quiet since Finmutual collapsed.

I find it weird that the man who claims to knows all about HYIPs and has numerous 'industry' connections didn't see this coming.

I was also thinking the same.He claimed he has links and can keep his referrals safe,so how did this happen?

Anyway now Cryptory is the program which seems to be standing and paying users.

More than likely when they stated it was hacked, it probably was. No long term program I have ever been in thats paying for almost a year that I can remember of stops paying cold turkey.

Yes Cryptory is the only program I now recommend and that is unlikely to change for the next little while. It's a lower yield program, so if you are looking for something different hit me up towards the end of summer maybe.

But I don't recommend any investing in any program to people who I don't speak to over skype or email. My responsibility is to my downline members, not to the forum.


Lets try and stay on topic after this versus insulting and arguing back and forth. Henceforth those posts will simply be deleted.

[DaveQB]

I would warn people on a forum if I know something. Just saying. I don't have many downline etc though. I'm more an individual investor.

I would have to argue Rockwell was the best for 2014 so far. Many are claiming that and I can't argue even though I lost some in the end I still made a profit.

I don't know if this is off topic, but Fortunesup has been paying me very well. It's a shot term program so be careful.

[yonce]

I would warn people on a forum if I know something. Just saying. I don't have many downline etc though. I'm more an individual investor.

I would have to argue Rockwell was the best for 2014 so far. Many are claiming that and I can't argue even though I lost some in the end I still made a profit.

I don't know if this is off topic, but Fortunesup has been paying me very well. It's a shot term program so be careful.

That is why I recommend everyone to be part of a downline. If your looking for a public forum to give you the latest advice down to the minute, you will probably just end up losing your shirt playing the game. Glad to hear fortunesup is working for you. I don't play short term programs generally though. I'd have to disagree on Rockwell being the best of 2014. It lasted what? 3 months and some change? Breaking the 100 days online mark to me is not a success for a mid yield program. A far cry from a blockbuster. I would agree though they probably had the best marketing strategy of 2014, but that seems to be the case with most of the quick rise to the top programs and a swift collapse.

[yonce]

FYI, world cup time is statistically a pretty dead period for the HYIP industry. The Summer as it is things slow down, so I don't expect the next big thing to launch for a while. The world cup adds to that dead period even more.

[hamza171]

If anyone still wants to make money in this dead period,than Cryptory is the best choice now.It has been here for quite some time and still paying flawlessly.

[yonce]

Let's try and avoid pumping Cryptory please. They don't add much to the conversation.

[yonce]

I don't condone any pumping of a HYIP. I have and never have pumped a HYIP blindly. Always seek advice on HYIP choices and don't join one by yourself. Join as a group and in a downline. Never base HYIP decisions off just forum posts. Conversing with people invested in programs and joining a downline is the way to go. You'll always be one step behind if you play HYIP's by yourself just off what you read online.

 This thread is only for discussion. No accusations, insults, useless banter will be accepted bottom line. That includes all you ex-HYIP admins creating accounts to detract here.

[Seretonin]

I don't condone any pumping of a HYIP. I have and never have pumped a HYIP blindly. Always seek advice on HYIP choices and don't join one by yourself. Join as a group and in a downline. Never base HYIP decisions off just forum posts. Conversing with people invested in programs and joining a downline is the way to go. You'll always be one step behind if you play HYIP's by yourself just off what you read online.

 This thread is only for discussion. No accusations, insults, useless banter will be accepted bottom line. That includes all you ex-HYIP admins creating accounts to detract here.

No accusations allowed in this thread, with the exception of Yonce. This goon has accused me of being an ex-admin of one these shitty websites (I live in Australia; could there be anything stupider than starting up a HYIP in a country that will rigorously prosecute anyone involved in these types of operations?) without a shred of evidence because I asked some questions about his inconsistent actions.

[yonce]

I don't condone any pumping of a HYIP. I have and never have pumped a HYIP blindly. Always seek advice on HYIP choices and don't join one by yourself. Join as a group and in a downline. Never base HYIP decisions off just forum posts. Conversing with people invested in programs and joining a downline is the way to go. You'll always be one step behind if you play HYIP's by yourself just off what you read online.

 This thread is only for discussion. No accusations, insults, useless banter will be accepted bottom line. That includes all you ex-HYIP admins creating accounts to detract here.

No accusations allowed in this thread, with the exception of Yonce. This goon has accused me of being an ex-admin of one these shitty websites (I live in Australia; could there be anything stupider than starting up a HYIP in a country that will rigorously prosecute anyone involved in these types of operations?) without a shred of evidence because I asked some questions about his inconsistent actions.

Sure send me over your concerns and I will address them. But I am not going to do a back and forth in this thread of an off topic discussion with inflammatory language on either of our parts.