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[DynhoSts]

dev was talking a solution to the case, we are awaiting the solution

[dzarmush]

I see dirty play by devs again. First they stated that the auction closes at 22:55:00 and now they accept bids made after this time because they get more money. How about me making a bid now? 3 BTC for a lot number 6. Will they accept it also because they get even more money?

[CoinManiac]

So we are stuck with the bid thing. no launch yet?

[SillkRoad]

I see dirty play by devs again. First they stated that the auction closes at 22:55:00 and now they accept bids made after this time because they get more money. How about me making a bid now? 3 BTC for a lot number 6. Will they accept it also because they get even more money?

1) We have announced that we need 3,5 btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.580)
2) Transactions will be through Escrow
3) DynhoSts, Starfleet.Intelligence played after 22.55 if they Won this conversation would not be here. If they did not set bids after 22.55, I would have understood their honesty, as they played they need to consider the views of all players after 22,55 (bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo) if they agree to annul their bids we will return to the position 161 . Repeat again if they do not play after 22.55 we would have nullified the latest bids.

6/9/2014 22:55:36  Starfleet.Intelligence
6/9/2014 22:55:44   signingoff
6/9/2014 22:55:51   Secondleo
6/9/2014 22:55:55   DynhoSts

4) We have proposed a community to find a solution, there is one opinion in the community that would-buy stake on the last price, such as the last bid DynhoSts 5 stake 0.621, he buys it at a price Vega (0,65). This option is available only if all bidders agree to this decision

Thanks for understanding and for my bad English

[DynhoSts]

I see dirty play by devs again. First they stated that the auction closes at 22:55:00 and now they accept bids made after this time because they get more money. How about me making a bid now? 3 BTC for a lot number 6. Will they accept it also because they get even more money?

1) We have announced that we need 3,5 btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.580)
2) Transactions will be through Escrow
3) DynhoSts, Starfleet.Intelligence played after 22.55 if they Won this conversation would not be here. If they did not set bids after 22.55, I would have understood their honesty, as they played they need to consider the views of all players after 22,55 (bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo) if they agree to annul their bids we will return to the position 161 . Repeat again if they do not play after 22.55 we would have nullified the latest bids.

6/9/2014 22:55:36  Starfleet.Intelligence
6/9/2014 22:55:44   signingoff
6/9/2014 22:55:51   Secondleo
6/9/2014 22:55:55   DynhoSts

4) We have proposed a community to find a solution, there is one opinion in the community that would-buy stake on the last price, such as the last bid DynhoSts 5 stake 0.621, he buys it at a price Vega (0,65). This option is available only if all bidders agree to this decision

Thanks for understanding and for my bad English

I already said 300 times, I put bids after the time because I saw that people kept giving bids, and how I had won not want to miss. read more previous pages, and even then was already proposed a way to fix this but so far only got the word .. see my last valid bid .. 0.611 btc. if you just need more money I paid without problems ... do not want to get into fights over enough

[SillkRoad]

I see dirty play by devs again. First they stated that the auction closes at 22:55:00 and now they accept bids made after this time because they get more money. How about me making a bid now? 3 BTC for a lot number 6. Will they accept it also because they get even more money?

1) We have announced that we need 3,5 btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.580)
2) Transactions will be through Escrow
3) DynhoSts, Starfleet.Intelligence played after 22.55 if they Won this conversation would not be here. If they did not set bids after 22.55, I would have understood their honesty, as they played they need to consider the views of all players after 22,55 (bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo) if they agree to annul their bids we will return to the position 161 . Repeat again if they do not play after 22.55 we would have nullified the latest bids.

6/9/2014 22:55:36  Starfleet.Intelligence
6/9/2014 22:55:44   signingoff
6/9/2014 22:55:51   Secondleo
6/9/2014 22:55:55   DynhoSts

4) We have proposed a community to find a solution, there is one opinion in the community that would-buy stake on the last price, such as the last bid DynhoSts 5 stake 0.621, he buys it at a price Vega (0,65). This option is available only if all bidders agree to this decision

Thanks for understanding and for my bad English

I already said 300 times, I put bids after the time because I saw that people kept giving bids, and how I had won not want to miss. read more previous pages, and even then was already proposed a way to fix this but so far only got the word

And others played, you need to consider the views of all participants. If they agree to abandon stake we come back to 161 or permit to buy You a stake at the last price

[DynhoSts]

I do not have to consider anything, who has to consider what is right or wrong are you now if the community will accept that there is another conversation friend

the fact is that you think it is that I'm the problem, but they are wrong the fact that you accept the bids after the 161 is simple, more money .. too much money, for example if you accept the offers until the 161 would receive a 3 bitcoins unless I'm wrong? consider that fact that everyone is watching and arrives I do not want to discuss what you feel is right.

I'm one of the people who have supported the project just see my signature, there are more than 2 months, and still have to go through this lamentable

[SillkRoad]

I do not have to consider anything, who has to consider what is right or wrong are you now if the community will accept that there is another conversation friend

the fact is that you think it is that I'm the problem, but they are wrong the fact that you accept the bids after the 161 is simple, more money .. too much money, for example if you accept the offers until the 161 would receive a 3 bitcoins unless I'm wrong? consider that fact that everyone is watching and arrives I do not want to discuss what you feel is right.

I'm one of the people who have supported the project just see my signature, there are more than 2 months, and still have to go through this lamentable

I repeat once again, if you have not played after 22.55, I would go back to 161
Since you accept the rules of the game as the other members, then you need something to bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo agree with you about invalidating stake

I suggest you buy at the last price, but I'm here and the community decide. Look forward to hearing from bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo

[DynhoSts]

not 4 people who have decided this is the future of the entire community bitcointalk 

[Vega]

3) DynhoSts, Starfleet.Intelligence played after 22.55 if they Won this conversation would not be here. If they did not set bids after 22.55, I would have understood their honesty, as they played they need to consider the views of all players after 22,55 (bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo) if they agree to annul their bids we will return to the position 161 . Repeat again if they do not play after 22.55 we would have nullified the latest bids.

The truth is, when you are ahead, the smart play is to continue bidding if an auction runs into overtime, because this provides the best return.

If you bid overtime:
1. Overtime bids are canceled, you win.
2. Overtime bids stand, you win. (But pay more.)

If you don't bid:
1. Overtimb bids are canceled, you win
2. OVertime bids stand, you lose.

The first scenario makes more sence strategically.

But anyway. I made my opinion clear about this, and provided a possible solution.
Now someone needs to decide what will it be.

It's not gonna chance my life ether way, so I'm done talking about it. Especially that it doesn't look like anyone cares in the community expect the bidders and the devs.

[Vega]

I'm good with going back to 161. I'm good with going with my solution. I'm less good with the result standing as it is, but I'll accept it.

[SillkRoad]

I'm good with going back to 161. I'm good with going with my solution. I'm less good with the result standing as it is, but I'll accept it.

Well, a bold decision. Your vote counted

[Vega]

One more post and I'm done, promise.

There are three scenarios currently.

1. Results stand with overtime
- People who would've won without it, or payed less are angry

2. Overtime bids canceled
- People who's bids are get canceled and lose, are angry. Devs get less btc.

3. Do as I suggested
- Everyone gets what they want, the overtime bidders, the regular bidders, the devs get more money. The only negative I can see is devs have to give up a few more stakes, and that would be minimal loss.

[SillkRoad]

One more post and I'm done, promise.

There are three scenarios currently.

1. Results stand with overtime
- People who would've won without it, or payed less are angry

2. Overtime bids canceled
- People who's bids are get canceled and lose, are angry. Devs get less btc.

3. Do as I suggested
- Everyone gets what they want, the overtime bidders, the regular bidders, the devs get more money. The only negative I can see is devs have to give up a few more stakes, and that would be minimal loss.

Need to get a response from Secondleo, Tirapon, bitwhizz, signingoff depends on them your decision

Let vote for one of the items

Currently
1) ...
2) Vega
3) ...

[DynhoSts]

Who won will not want to miss that .. useless vote

[ownerbest]

Can I see the NXTL launch in the rest of my life?

[SillkRoad]

Who won will not want to miss that .. useless vote

You can argue endlessly, the fact that there are more losers than winners
So I think that to say about that Secondleo, Tirapon, bitwhizz, signingoff

Can I see the NXTL launch in the rest of my life?

During the week we'll make an announcement

[DynhoSts]

Who won will not want to miss that .. useless vote

You can argue endlessly, the fact that there are more losers than winners
So I think that to say about that Secondleo, Tirapon, bitwhizz, signingoff

Can I see the NXTL launch in the rest of my life?

During the week we'll make an announcement

Funny still have to see the dev making fun of my face

[Starfleet.Intelligence]

I see dirty play by devs again. First they stated that the auction closes at 22:55:00 and now they accept bids made after this time because they get more money. How about me making a bid now? 3 BTC for a lot number 6. Will they accept it also because they get even more money?

1) We have announced that we need 3,5 btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.580)
2) Transactions will be through Escrow
3) DynhoSts, Starfleet.Intelligence played after 22.55 if they Won this conversation would not be here. If they did not set bids after 22.55, I would have understood their honesty, as they played they need to consider the views of all players after 22,55 (bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo) if they agree to annul their bids we will return to the position 161 . Repeat again if they do not play after 22.55 we would have nullified the latest bids.

6/9/2014 22:55:36  Starfleet.Intelligence
6/9/2014 22:55:44   signingoff
6/9/2014 22:55:51   Secondleo
6/9/2014 22:55:55   DynhoSts

4) We have proposed a community to find a solution, there is one opinion in the community that would-buy stake on the last price, such as the last bid DynhoSts 5 stake 0.621, he buys it at a price Vega (0,65). This option is available only if all bidders agree to this decision

Thanks for understanding and for my bad English

Well, Ive looked at the sheet again and If we count until the ending of the bids I go away empty handed.

If we go until bid #161 I think I got lot #6 with a 15-Stake. So what would I pledge for?

For me it was officially announced the auction end until the timer ends. This was stated by devs also in the later posts. I saw bidding continue and so I kept also going knewing I would loose my winning bids... EVERYBODY saw this and kept going bidding. So its also clear all the winners would cry if their bid wouldnt have counted...

Of course I pledge for reset to 161!

BUT: Like everything this is decision of the devs, and also community. Im fine with a community decision also knowing I probably wont benefit from investing in NODE.

Since I had this winning bid (according to my rules) 6/9/2014 22:54:41   Starfleet.Intelligence   Lot # 6 - 15 stakes   1.52,

Devs, can you give "us" a special buy options according to our bids that would have counted? Then I think everybody would be satisfied.

[dzarmush]

I don't understand why this even is being discussed.

Auction closed at 22:55:00, the last bid was made at 22:54:59.

Period.