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September 20, 2015, 10:03:12 PM
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Anyway back to CENT! Let us form a "working group" with equality, one person one vote, to start taking forward CENT.

There is sufficient liquidity in CENT for any federal adoption, or the adoption of a chosen digital currency by one or more countries, this should be a working model, that "BitDollars" formed by units of 100 "BitCents" should be a global unit of transaction without all the unnecessary divisibility (of course divisibility can also be introduced at any time).

Who says yes?


It sounds good to create a working group.
CENT The main problem is excess currency (currently 49,517,573,469,348) which makes it impossible to quote against BTC.
Its main feature is its indivisibility, that's what he did at launch many people invest in this currency (in late 2013 was in volume leader in Cryptsy until it broke).
Without that feature this coin would have died long ago.

Hi, yes sounds good.
How is 49,517,573,469,348 excess currency? Theoretically that is only $495,175,734,693.48 ($495 billion) based on each CENT being worth the same as a USD Cent.
Given that the US economy alone has distributed $17-19 trillion dollars in total, the distribution of CENT is only 1/34 of the total USD distribution to absorb.

CENT can afford to increase 20 times before it absorbs all USD in circulation (including land and property).

Given that the US (inc Canada and Mexico) is approximately 450 million, 1/14th of the global population, that would indicate a global financial sum of around $238 TRILLION to absorb!!

Bitcoin has not got a hope in hell of absorbing that amount of money, its divisibility is too complex for human mathematics - however CENT (BitDollar/BitCents) is perfect!

The fact that CENT has ZERO POS reward means that we can always maintain the value of CENT in the future simply by adjusting POS for periods of time, that is PERFECT for financial institutions to deliver "quantatitive easing" indirectly to the populous via digital currency.

I would suggest leaving everything as it is just now, it works, no fixes, but we should work on a formal roadmap and look to create the "BitDollars / BitCents" brand to take CENT as a global alternative to Bitcoin. With XRP one of the main contenders in FinTECH circles, CENT is also placed in the ideal market for the biggest potential financial gain of any digital currency in the world!!!


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If your theory to defend the TotalMoneySupply CENT is not excessive is based on comparison with the amount of dollars circulating and would give it a market capitalization of 495,175,772,783 dollars, just it seems a utopia.
I firmly believe that needs a reduction CENT 1/500 or 1/1000.
The question is how to do it without the billions of coins lost in the fork of 2013 falling into the hands of the new DEV, which could overturn them and lead to CENT.
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September 20, 2015, 10:06:15 PM
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The old "lets make a roadmap" scam is it?

Not to worry, look lets take this digital currency over and develop it?

Of course it is. Rex's already done it with some other high-numbered shitcoins, why not do it with the most broken shitcoin? Who do you think bought all those cheap CENTs before announcing a "Takeover and Overhaul" which will in reality be a new logo, a new list of vapourware features, and a new exchange to dump his stash on?

What makes you think we're going to allow three newcomers to the cryptography from taking a coin with more than 2 years in the market ??
NOBODY IS GOING TO EMPOWER MY CENTs WITHOUT A HIGH CONSENSUS OF THE COMMUNITY!!!!

Blah Blah Blah!!! What else??? Felling better?

REX,

Before going criticizing, Expose your intentions on what should be done with the money, considering that works perfectly.
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September 21, 2015, 08:24:13 AM
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If your theory to defend the TotalMoneySupply CENT is not excessive is based on comparison with the amount of dollars circulating and would give it a market capitalization of 495,175,772,783 dollars, just it seems a utopia.
I firmly believe that needs a reduction CENT 1/500 or 1/1000.
The question is how to do it without the billions of coins lost in the fork of 2013 falling into the hands of the new DEV, which could overturn them and lead to CENT.

Hello, it's far from utopia.

If you reduce the amount in circulation (increase the short term value) then just like banks at a later date you will have to do quantitative easing (also known as proof of stake) this will reduce the unit value for additional investors which to be honest is why all POS coins with a POS value greater than their adoption will potentially devalue to zero. Its important to understand economics, not look at coin count.

I disagree that CENT should be reduced, I am also happy that the POS is 0% to retain unit value.

What billions of coins lost in the fork? Those surely should be centralised in the foundation??

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September 21, 2015, 02:03:46 PM
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If your theory to defend the TotalMoneySupply CENT is not excessive is based on comparison with the amount of dollars circulating and would give it a market capitalization of 495,175,772,783 dollars, just it seems a utopia.
I firmly believe that needs a reduction CENT 1/500 or 1/1000.
The question is how to do it without the billions of coins lost in the fork of 2013 falling into the hands of the new DEV, which could overturn them and lead to CENT.

Hello, it's far from utopia.

If you reduce the amount in circulation (increase the short term value) then just like banks at a later date you will have to do quantitative easing (also known as proof of stake) this will reduce the unit value for additional investors which to be honest is why all POS coins with a POS value greater than their adoption will potentially devalue to zero. Its important to understand economics, not look at coin count.

I disagree that CENT should be reduced, I am also happy that the POS is 0% to retain unit value.

What billions of coins lost in the fork? Those surely should be centralised in the foundation??


Let's see if we understand (google translator does not help very well).
If the total supply is good and works perfectly currency must not change anything, you just need a good promotion and try to make the people adopt.
What we intend to do is to throw BitCents and whoever wants to exchange CENTs by BitCents voluntarily without touching the blockchain CENT or exchange would be mandatory?
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September 21, 2015, 02:08:50 PM
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What billions of coins lost in the fork? Those surely should be centralised in the foundation??

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If the percentage of lost coins is reasonable, that paracer like a good idea, as long as control is transparent.
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September 22, 2015, 08:31:57 AM
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This post was inappropriate and posted during a time of personal and mental health issues, sorry.


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September 22, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
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wallet-qt 0.10.3.5 no sync , node Huh?
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September 22, 2015, 02:27:18 PM
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wallet-qt 0.10.3.5 no sync , node Huh?

Try these although I have 14 active connections without config file.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590501.msg12134540#msg12134540
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September 22, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
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Let's see if we understand (google translator does not help very well).
If the total supply is good and works perfectly currency must not change anything, you just need a good promotion and try to make the people adopt.
What we intend to do is to throw BitCents and whoever wants to exchange CENTs by BitCents voluntarily without touching the blockchain CENT or exchange would be mandatory?


If the total supply is good and works perfectly currency must not change anything, you just need a good promotion and try to make the people adopt.

Yes, adoption is not on a coin by coin basis but in crypto in general. What is needed are;

1) rebrand to BitDollars / BitCents - CENT is purely a code for exchanges, you could call each unit of currency chickens if you want and still have CENT as an exchange moniker.
2) leave the current amount of coins as it is.
3) update the wallets with new interface and design.
4) create android / ios wallets for easy mobile use.

What we intend to do is to throw BitCents and whoever wants to exchange CENTs by BitCents voluntarily without touching the blockchain CENT or exchange would be mandatory?

There is no exchange from CENT to BitCents. CENT stays the same on exchanges, its the wallet UI and brand that needs to be updated. The blockchain stays the same - its not a hard fork (unless we change the maximum coins or the POS amount).

Although, in order to be useful in future the source does need updated to include something useful such as;

a) barcode scanning
b) product history tracking
c) gps transaction
d) some other tech

Whilst crypto is anonymous, there is always something called "reasonable suspicion" whereby any country can get a warrant to inspect your digital currencies/blockchains. Remember recording data on the blockchain can prevent you getting into trouble just as much as it can get you in to trouble.

CENT must have one or more USP (unique selling point)

- e.g. adoption by one or more major corporate/commercial/government/financial entities
- a trusted global brand that makes it stand out from every other digital currency
- features that are useful to consumers and business

DID YOU KNOW?

In 10 years time if CENT POS remains at 0% there will be more TEK in circulation than CENT? (I think in 3 years time TEK will be increasing at a rate of 1 billion per month+ )

The major problem that the world faces is central government and bankings "creation of dependence" on a national currency, given in any one nation the laws of competition means that one corporation cannot dominate the marketplace - the fact is all money comes from one place in the UK - the Queen/Bank of England - this is termed as a monopoly (regardless of how many banks there are distributing it), which could also be deemed as a pyramid scheme or a ponzi scheme and therefore would be illegal by its very nature.

Crypto attends to this by redistributing all world money into the hands of billions of people, that is why the banks and governments will ultimately try and stop it or create their own "unit of dependency".

Anyway that's my thoughts - MONEY IS SLAVERY.....




Some of the things you mention sound pretty good.
I do not agree to leave the POS to 0%, the POS interest currently stands at just 1% and considering that many people do not mine, it is likely that the annual increase of coins to be around 0.5%.
I think it's looking for a problem where none exists, especially considering breaking CENT came prompted by changing the crazy POS and secure in that 1%.
The very creator of the coin (Shakezula) left incapable currency fix that POS, because being an indivisible currency (according to the very complicated era change), then it was decided by the new DEV The_Catman that was able to fix the problem POS, but the portfolio still had synchronization problems and also left.
Rozu finally arrived and solved all the problems and since then (more than a year and a half ago), everything works perfectly.
I mean by this, that if two prestigious programmers had problems with that, it seems inappropriate to touch the POS 1%.
I think the main problem with this coin passes not know how many are in circulation.
It occurs to me any idea to fix that and then apply all the improvements that the community sees fit.
Of course the new equipment among which I include (I think it'd be a great public relations), must win a% for the work.
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September 22, 2015, 06:38:09 PM
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wallet-qt 0.10.3.5 no sync , node Huh?

Try these although I have 14 active connections without config file.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590501.msg12134540#msg12134540

Thanks
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September 27, 2015, 09:14:42 AM
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So is anybody actually doing anything or are you all talk.... ?

Seems far too many people are taking money out of crypto than putting in......

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September 28, 2015, 11:31:19 PM
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Disruptive:
You are the manager http://www.cent.rocks/ ??
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September 29, 2015, 04:16:10 AM
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i like that site im willing to say that could be the official website. I say yes +1

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September 29, 2015, 10:36:29 AM
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Disruptive:
You are the manager http://www.cent.rocks/ ??

Hi Tevayo,

I'm managing the site. To further ongoing discussion, I strongly believe the need to reduce CENT by 1000.
Let's find someone who could make things happen for the immediate changes and willing to work on CENT for a minimum 2 years.

10% stake from the total coin circulation shall be rewarded to the new DEV with only partial reward given by milestone.

THX.

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* I also have an outstanding reward of 30 billion which will be channeled to the development fund.    
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Disruptive:
You are the manager http://www.cent.rocks/ ??

Hi Tevayo,

I'm managing the site. To further ongoing discussion, I strongly believe the need to reduce CENT by 1000.
Let's find someone who could make things happen for the immediate changes and willing to work on CENT for a minimum 2 years.

10% stake from the total coin circulation shall be rewarded to the new DEV with only partial reward given by milestone.

THX.

MANO
* I also have an outstanding reward of 30 billion which will be channeled to the development fund.    

Disruptive Hello, I'm working on creating a BlockExplorer, a little later also in a richlist.
When you are finished blockexplorer I'll contact you to hang it on the web.
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Disruptive Hello, I'm working on creating a BlockExplorer, a little later also in a richlist.
When you are finished blockexplorer I'll contact you to hang it on the web.


This is fantastic man, let's work on it. I would be glad to share some burden / CENT fund if you needed. Please PM me if you need anything.

Thanks.

MANO
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Disruptive Hello, I'm working on creating a BlockExplorer, a little later also in a richlist.
When you are finished blockexplorer I'll contact you to hang it on the web.


This is fantastic man, let's work on it. I would be glad to share some burden / CENT fund if you needed. Please PM me if you need anything.

Thanks.

MANO

Hello Disruptive totally agree 1000/1 reduce CENT.
I need to contact you to some technical data to hang BlockExplorer on the web.
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September 30, 2015, 09:26:04 AM
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Oh so people are alive and doing something then? Why reduce the total coins by 1,000? What's the point?

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September 30, 2015, 10:43:59 PM
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yes that is a very important question that would need a vote as well before executing...
what is the benefit of reducing cent by 1,000? and why not by 10 or 100? or none at all?

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September 30, 2015, 10:57:42 PM
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yes that is a very important question that would need a vote as well before executing...
what is the benefit of reducing cent by 1,000? and why not by 10 or 100? or none at all?

Of course, any changes you make must be supported by the community.

But let's go step by step ...
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