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Question: Should "bits" become the standard for merchant pricing, wallets and general usage.
Bitcoin best as the common unit. 0.001234 is ok - 108 (14.1%)
milliBitcoins (thousandths) are best - 90 (11.7%)
Bits (millionths) are best - 570 (74.2%)
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May 03, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
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I would prefer if we moved the decimal places but still called them bitcoins.


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May 03, 2014, 12:39:03 AM
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i vote for bits too  Shocked
i believe it will be easier   Cheesy Cheesy
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May 03, 2014, 12:40:28 AM
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The principle is fine, but the name "bit" isnt going to help acceptance, it has too much meaning already, in common language (i'll have a bit of cake), technical IT especially networks and colloquially.  Need to come up with a better name (shame Satoshi already seems defined)

It's good enough. Language is fuzzy anyway.
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May 03, 2014, 12:52:04 AM
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Yeah, bits is such a logical extension.  It would have been interesting to keep going with the SI units, but it clearly will not work for people.  Uphill battle that isn't worth it. 

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May 03, 2014, 12:58:04 AM
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"Bitcoin best as the common unit. 0.001234 is ok"
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May 03, 2014, 01:25:15 AM
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i can't wait for the misleading headlines on major newspapers

bitcoin divided in 1 million bits

bitcoin stock split gives users 1 million times more coins

bitcoin adds 6 zeros to the right

bitcoin now renamed bits will trade like a penny stock

and the best

bitcoin crash? trading at 0.00048 $ now  Cheesy

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May 03, 2014, 01:55:19 AM
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I vote for bits. Better sooner than later.

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May 03, 2014, 02:13:56 AM
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ACK on bits.
ACK on bit = XBT.

Price quoting could move to inverted, similar to USDJPY. We would have USDXBT = 2222. Would just mean when you want to convert from bits to USD, you have to divide by the price, rather than multiplying.

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May 03, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
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May 03, 2014, 02:44:31 AM
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I think bits is great... but we need to get rid of the name "bitcoin" and change it to bits.

Having the network with the name Bitcoin, this could keep everyone in the same boat still, negating the benefits of switching to bits.

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How much is a bitcoin I've been hearing of on the news.

Oh, we don't use bitcoins, we use bits.

Oh, so you don't use bitcoins anymore? They die or something?

Oh no no no, 1 bitcoin is 1 million bits!

So how much is a bitcoin?

it's 2200 bits for a dollar.

Which is how many dollars for a bitcoin?

We don't use bitcoins as a unit anymore.

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The only way bits will be a viable solution to the "omg this bitcoin thing is too expensive" is if we change the name of the network too to eliminate the bitcoin "brand" and completely "re-brand" it. Otherwise, people will get even more confused imo

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May 03, 2014, 02:55:53 AM
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This is a MUST. When I tell my friends that for $450 you get 1 bitcoin, their reply is always "what?!?! that's it???".

Psychologically people want to feel that when they purchase something they are getting something substantial in return. The 0's infront of the decimal place make the average Joe feel he's actually getting "something" for his $ rather than "nothing".

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May 03, 2014, 03:27:01 AM
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I was all for mBTC but it's just to techie.

I agree with bits and now is the time to make the change. It's only going to get harder to change the more time goes on.

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May 03, 2014, 03:33:44 AM
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With the block rewards diminishing as more blocks are discovered, over time miners will be forced to raise fees for their services.

If 1,000,000 bits = 1 bitcoin, then wouldn't the lowest amount miners could charge for their services be 1%
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May 03, 2014, 03:45:23 AM
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The milli- micro- prefixes are nice and proper and all, but they wont work for the layman, which a unit of currency needs to be.  I can completely understand the prefixes, and even I fear a world where I'd have to say "microbitcoins" regularly.

The only other feasible option I've seen outside of "bit" was "moto".  

It has a good, concise ring to it and comes from -Nakamoto-

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May 03, 2014, 03:59:29 AM
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1 bit is also 1/8 of one USD.

Seeing all the hoopla over BTC versus XBT I would support the following:

1 BTC = 1 Bitcoin = same as it ever was

1 XBT = 1 Bit = 0.000001 BTC

1000000 XBT (Bit) = 1 BTC (Bitcoin)

I would be behind this 100% as it "fixes" the whole BTC/XBT issue and give those who have been worried about the size of the BTC something to use.

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This is no time for half measures.  We need to adopt a solution today that will serve us well for centuries to come, and "bits" (worth 100 Satoshi each) are the right size.

The scale is usable today, when a gasoline costs around 8,000 bits per gallon, and even something as expensive as a house uses understandable numbers like $500 million bits.  

Once we achieve global adoption, I estimate that one bit will have roughly the same value as $1 in today's dollars, so having 2 decimal places should be just right.  Of course, specialized applications might use three or four decimal places in calculations, as is done today in investing and other places, even if the protocol is never updated to allow transfers of fractional Satoshi.

The abbreviation BTC is already widely established as 100,000,000 Satoshi, and it would be difficult to change its definition now.  However, XBT is not yet widely used and could easily be redefined as 100 Satoshi, as long as we do it quickly, before too many people start using it as a synonym for BTC.

Let's get rid of this annoying problem now!

I'm looking forward to the time when a shave and a haircut actually costs 2 bits again!

This also works really well where in financial software where bitcoin is represented as XBT anyway and the price has to be denominated in uBTC/bits + 2 decimal places (satoshis).

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May 03, 2014, 04:08:53 AM
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So 1 bit equals 100 satoshis, in the future, it's quite possible for 1 bit worthing 1dollar.

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May 03, 2014, 04:11:04 AM
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Price quoting could move to inverted, similar to USDJPY. We would have USDXBT = 2222. Would just mean when you want to convert from bits to USD, you have to divide by the price, rather than multiplying.

I think I am going to add that to BitSimple as an experiment (keeping traditional pricing as well).
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May 03, 2014, 04:11:38 AM
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I vote for bits. I have a bitcoin store that only accepts bitcoins. I can't list the prices in bitcoins for items with small prices because Woocommerce does not support more than 3 or 4 decimal places. I put in a bug request but maybe the bug is not Woocommerce but the default value for bitcoin being so high. Bits is perfect.
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May 03, 2014, 04:28:03 AM
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'Zib' was the result of a search for a word that was ....  unburdened with any prior English definition

I don't think that is quite the burden you imagine. The word 'run' has 645 meanings (see http://www.npr.org/2011/05/30/136796448/has-run-run-amok-it-has-645-meanings-so-far).

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May 03, 2014, 05:28:21 AM
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Actually we have MicroBitcoin (μBTC) already. Why change it to Bits?

I prefer μBTC (spelled: uBit)

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