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February 04, 2015, 08:57:46 PM
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The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.

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There are some additional configuration to be done?

Normally it should work out of the box.

Which browser version do you use? Windows Firefox? Which version?

Could you also please try the online wallet?
https://nfdcoin.com/wallet/simple.html
Firefox 35.0.1 in Linux Mint 17 MATE 64bit
This happens because of the connection through ssh.
When I access the wallet from VPS, it functions properly.



Are you able to access/read   http://localhost:8876/css/bootstrap.min.css ?
I can read this link.

I accessed through the putty using windows 7 and Firefox, and it worked properly.

The problem is access using Linux Mint, or ssh through the terminal.

I can not reproduce the ssh tunnel issue.
When I remove bootstrap.min.css then I see a similar screen.

Do you also have the same problem with google chrome?
If so, could you please do a right mouse click and chose "Inspect Element".
As next click on "Network", reload page and check whether a file is not accessible through the ssh tunnel.
Now is operating normally, I do not know what caused it, was going to the NXT wallet as well. But is already repaired.

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February 05, 2015, 10:17:49 AM
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The first pass-through dividend from MMNXT came in today, and I just sent out the NFD equivalents to the holders of NFDMMNxt. The amount that the NFDMMNxt_Dedicated_Account received this morning was 230.93089501 NXT; Tx ID 18362448331694644878. Using a Nxt price of 6000 satoshis and NFD's low ask of 2, the NFD equivalent to MMNXT's dividend is 692792.68503 NFD, or 27.7118 NFD per unit of NFDMMNxt.

So, here's today's pay roster:

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NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3: Paid  27'711.8 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 7677700636814017089

NFD-TTJZ-S8EQ-7KJU-9ARY6: Paid  15'380.05 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 15471882897083776804

NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU: Paid  2'771.18 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 16246170084599441459

NFD-9MWR-P9DU-P2HQ-G3F7B: Paid  2'771.18 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 1026751545368210011

Next dividend, in which I pass through the week's spread-trading profits, comes Sunday night. You can see the updated spread-trading ledger on the Web here.

Thanks to all who bought some NFDMMNxt!


NFDMMNxt's Asset ID number is 7008598312490387994. Dedicated thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930228


This is a great asset and MMNXT is an excellent backing for it.  We strongly support what you are doing.  Good work.  NFD is heating up.

It would be very good to see some kind of original NFD feature going beyond what NXT can do.  I think the NXT AE's great weakness is it's centralized trust model (in the issuer of an asset).  I still would like to see NFD implement spread betting with a decentralized trust model.  Perhaps AT can help with this?

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February 05, 2015, 02:38:11 PM
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It would be very good to see some kind of original NFD feature going beyond what NXT can do.  I think the NXT AE's great weakness is it's centralized trust model (in the issuer of an asset).  I still would like to see NFD implement spread betting with a decentralized trust model.  Perhaps AT can help with this?

Those are very good points. AT will certainly help with cross-chain transactions. You did hit the nail on the head about having to trust the issuer of an Asset. I've stuck to alias-type Assets myself - full backing by another crypto - in order to set a good example, and (I hope) add to a tradition that would make a scammer stick out like a sore thumb. But, it still hinges upon trust.

Implementing a reasonably trust-free option would require a major overhaul of the core. Unfortunately, we're still stuck in the altcoin underworld: the only experienced and doughty coder who's joined us has been BTC2Nxt for AT.

Spread betting on regular markets opens up another trust issue, as MaWo pointed out earlier. The trouble with using regular market data is that trust is required for the source! No matter how unimpeachable the feed, you still have to trust the feed itself. And regular markets being what they are, plus latency being what it is, there's no exact-match confirm available. Gold can go from $1,261.20 to $1260.70 or $1,261.70 in a millisecond. So if some scammer decides to run a "long con" with a compromised feed that give him just a little edge, it would be all-but-impossible to detect.

As for more obvious cons, they can be detected with "many sets of eyes" - preferably with some straightforward auditing tool which offers a choice of feeds. It wouldn't be that hard to whip up an auditing tool that would catch a scammer who tries to 'settle' a gold bet using $1,500 gold, for example. But again, latency and volatility mean that an exact match is simply not possible. It seems a situation that's ripe for a lot of arguments. Wink

Isn't HFT grand? Undecided

In fact, there was an expose on Zero Hedge about a huge gold buy that hit the Chicago market at the exact millisecond when the Fed released a gold-boosting announcement. The truth of the expose hinged upon the speed of light! I'm not kidding. The author said that there was no way that the announcement could have reached someone in Chicago quickly enough for that buy to have been placed after the announcement came out. He concluded that the buyer had inside information on what the announcement was going to be and pre-programmed his tradebot to buy at the exact millisecond of its release in order to cover his tracks.

As I said, the latency, volatility and consequent trust issues would be a permanent source of arguments.

In this sense, the AE system is a real blessing and the prefect medium for spread betting. Its virtue is its slowness! All orders go into the hopper at the same time, and none of them are good until a forger validates them and adds them to the blockchain. ~90 sec. confirm time means that bets can be settled unambiguously.

But the trouble is, we need more alias type of Assets on the NFD system for spread bets! We'd also need a lot of liquidity, or at the very least a (trusted!) market maker to, say, keep "NFDGold" in line with the real bid and real ask for gold. It's a great idea, but the old catch-22 of the altcoin underworld puts a limit on it. For now. Smiley

As for me, I'm doin' what I can.






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February 05, 2015, 02:45:37 PM
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Are you planning to issue any more NFDMMNXT?  Looks like there are more folks interested than you thought!

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February 05, 2015, 03:37:59 PM
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Are you planning to issue any more NFDMMNXT?  Looks like there are more folks interested than you thought!

I'd really appreciate that.
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February 05, 2015, 05:53:58 PM
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More NFDMMNXT to buy means more dividend transactions.
more dividend transactions means more NFD tx volume.
more NFD tx volume means price going up and attracts more attention.

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February 05, 2015, 07:40:47 PM
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More NFDMMNXT to buy means more dividend transactions.
more dividend transactions means more NFD tx volume.
more NFD tx volume means price going up and attracts more attention.

you can buy it on nfd exchange ,there are some sellers.
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February 05, 2015, 11:08:21 PM
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More NFDMMNXT to buy means more dividend transactions.
more dividend transactions means more NFD tx volume.
more NFD tx volume means price going up and attracts more attention.

you can buy it on nfd exchange ,there are some sellers.

Yes, there are: I just saw it.






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February 05, 2015, 11:12:57 PM
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Are you planning to issue any more NFDMMNXT?  Looks like there are more folks interested than you thought!

I'd really appreciate that.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Unfortunately, 25'000 was all I issued and right now I'm broke. Smiley I bought a big hunk of BTC, but it's in limbo for 14 days because the exchange I bought them at doesn't trust first-time buyers. Huh

I used to buy at Vault of Satoshi...and damn, do I miss them...

Anyhoo: I seem to have a bit of a hit with NFDMMNxt, which did surprise me a bit. You're absolutely right about a second issue providing more buy support for NFD.






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February 05, 2015, 11:21:10 PM
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How long until AT is on mainnet?
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February 06, 2015, 01:22:19 AM
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How long until AT is on mainnet?

It's ready when it's stable and has no known flaws.
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It's ready when it's done. :-)

Currently we are working on a whitepaper for internal use.
Next step is integrating AT in NFD-1.3.5.
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February 06, 2015, 09:30:53 PM
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More NFDMMNXT to buy means more dividend transactions.
more dividend transactions means more NFD tx volume.
more NFD tx volume means price going up and attracts more attention.

you can buy it on nfd exchange ,there are some sellers.

That's not a viable solution.  They are just scalpers asking about twice as much as is fair market value.  A fool would buy that.

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February 06, 2015, 09:32:07 PM
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Are you planning to issue any more NFDMMNXT?  Looks like there are more folks interested than you thought!

I'd really appreciate that.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Unfortunately, 25'000 was all I issued and right now I'm broke. Smiley I bought a big hunk of BTC, but it's in limbo for 14 days because the exchange I bought them at doesn't trust first-time buyers. Huh

I used to buy at Vault of Satoshi...and damn, do I miss them...

Anyhoo: I seem to have a bit of a hit with NFDMMNxt, which did surprise me a bit. You're absolutely right about a second issue providing more buy support for NFD.

There is definitely a buyer here if you make a second issue the fair market price. Smiley

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February 14, 2015, 10:28:52 AM
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Why NSC assets stopped being distributed?

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February 14, 2015, 12:44:38 PM
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Why NSC assets stopped being distributed?

I have to start the process manually. I forgot it.

2015-02-14 12:36:58 UTC INFO: In total 11937 NFD NSC assets transferred to 26 different accounts.

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NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3        2688
NFD-HJGQ-W4PY-YM3P-682XB        1860
NFD-T4MX-HYMV-2J6M-AR9KM        1519
NFD-2HYQ-N57J-T4JD-9J34Z        1252
NFD-KFKX-DP6F-8E4M-28T9Q        1205
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU        1115
NFD-HRSU-3ENZ-9UMM-4FH3V        599
NFD-WZ6A-MJRT-F7FU-9X6N8        594
NFD-A9TK-Y7J6-KHZL-CQ43C        317
NFD-EGFA-CFYM-BYKS-76REY        286
NFD-MXSL-RCHX-JZ5M-6AUZ2        229
NFD-G94C-SP3P-3UYA-8WN36        125
NFD-CBLT-8TCH-WDWJ-AWWBQ        75
NFD-ZQAH-VEJ9-FVNK-B94RN        22
NFD-E52T-A6BC-USTS-GQL4V        14
NFD-J9K9-7XZ9-DMA6-9UMTY        10
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV        6
NFD-CGYV-TMQK-48SP-92L3L        4
NFD-AARK-7F25-QPUW-DBUFM        4
NFD-DHEN-89XC-55CL-8XQQT        3
NFD-UD7F-8AXC-LL8G-7SAKR        2
NFD-FZJ9-2E3X-2TAW-DUHP2        2
NFD-7PKG-UY33-8WPZ-CAZKG        2
NFD-7268-8XUF-BK6F-8HAS6        2
NFD-SDKN-X35R-G7J4-6G7NK        1
NFD-6VAP-5HJM-WDQR-7MF7A        1



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February 15, 2015, 10:25:12 AM
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bter down :/

"We have to suspend all our services waiting for the security check. More information will be released as soon as possible. Sorry for the interruption."
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February 15, 2015, 02:58:04 PM
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http://bter.com/

"7170 BTC got stolen from our cold wallet in this transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812c135361ea93590c831ce9f13a3750be1b93575baccc6

720 BTC bounty for chasing it back.

All wallets have been shut down and withdrawals of unaffected coins will be arranged later."
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February 17, 2015, 07:23:54 PM
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http://bter.com/

"7170 BTC got stolen from our cold wallet in this transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/f5b0363f03e1ed8bb812c135361ea93590c831ce9f13a3750be1b93575baccc6

720 BTC bounty for chasing it back.

All wallets have been shut down and withdrawals of unaffected coins will be arranged later."

NFD needs a new exchange or two. I've submitted another request to have it added to Poloniex.

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February 17, 2015, 08:21:24 PM
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how about AT or Nxt MGW?
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February 18, 2015, 01:16:54 PM
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Just an FYI, when using version 1.3.5 and then viewing the "http://localhost:8876/test" URL, the "javadoc" links all end up with 404 error pages.  It looks like some HTML files are missing from the package.
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