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March 09, 2015, 11:39:12 AM |
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for usually work until profit 30-60%, of the initial capital. but eventually lost all. because I put a target profit up 200%
for martingale you need a really really big balance but as you said you can only get 30 - 60 % PROFIT you need to change tactics in order to get more then 100% you could also get 0% profit and lose in the first bets, and what kind of tactic is that to get more than 100%? there is lots of tactics you just need to play wisley there is some people like HUI that earned 100% - 1000% from there autobet methods!
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XinXan
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March 09, 2015, 11:56:38 AM |
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for usually work until profit 30-60%, of the initial capital. but eventually lost all. because I put a target profit up 200%
for martingale you need a really really big balance but as you said you can only get 30 - 60 % PROFIT you need to change tactics in order to get more then 100% you could also get 0% profit and lose in the first bets, and what kind of tactic is that to get more than 100%? there is lots of tactics you just need to play wisley there is some people like HUI that earned 100% - 1000% from there autobet methods! How do you play wisely exactly, its not like strategy makes a big difference, pretty much null.
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March 09, 2015, 12:33:04 PM |
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In my experience in gambling. I am sucked several and more times with the martingale. All profit goes to 0 in a second with unimaginable loses in a row. I think it can really make a gambler broken also when there exist 99.99% chances of wining in dice. So, really there is good to leave martingale play ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well , none of the site allows you to gamble at 99.99% chance, so how did you manage to test it at that ? Also, martingale might work for short term if you bet with some balance several times in different sized units. As I said above I was only thinking of 99.99% Not a reality lol :"
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steven.G999
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March 09, 2015, 01:19:40 PM |
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for usually work until profit 30-60%, of the initial capital. but eventually lost all. because I put a target profit up 200%
for martingale you need a really really big balance but as you said you can only get 30 - 60 % PROFIT you need to change tactics in order to get more then 100% yes I usually play with capital 0.01 or more, but usually I use the base bet 10-100 sat, and it was enough to withstand a long strike ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but keep ultimately lose, because of the barrage of red too long, yes sometimes I weird for it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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XinXan
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March 09, 2015, 01:26:00 PM |
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for usually work until profit 30-60%, of the initial capital. but eventually lost all. because I put a target profit up 200%
for martingale you need a really really big balance but as you said you can only get 30 - 60 % PROFIT you need to change tactics in order to get more then 100% yes I usually play with capital 0.01 or more, but usually I use the base bet 10-100 sat, and it was enough to withstand a long strike ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but keep ultimately lose, because of the barrage of red too long, yes sometimes I weird for it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But it doesnt matter if you use low base bet or high because its equal in winnings, if you use 10 sat base bet you would have to win millions of bets to make profit and after millions of bets your chances of getting a big lose streak increase.
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fox19891989
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March 09, 2015, 01:26:59 PM |
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I tried it, it worked sometimes, didn't work sometimes. It depends on your luck and bankroll. Martingale would only theoretically work if the following conditions are true: 1: the amount of money you have available to bet is infinite 2: the amount of money the house has available to pay you is infinite. They seem both impossible, if you wanna make a lot, just pray and hope you don't get a lose streak, always getting win streak.. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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steven.G999
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March 09, 2015, 01:29:48 PM |
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for usually work until profit 30-60%, of the initial capital. but eventually lost all. because I put a target profit up 200%
for martingale you need a really really big balance but as you said you can only get 30 - 60 % PROFIT you need to change tactics in order to get more then 100% yes I usually play with capital 0.01 or more, but usually I use the base bet 10-100 sat, and it was enough to withstand a long strike ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but keep ultimately lose, because of the barrage of red too long, yes sometimes I weird for it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But it doesnt matter if you use low base bet or high because its equal in winnings, if you use 10 sat base bet you would have to win millions of bets to make profit and after millions of bets your chances of getting a big lose streak increase. yes so using martingale, in the end will always be lost ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) you have a good method? for the autobet?
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XinXan
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March 09, 2015, 01:37:47 PM |
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for usually work until profit 30-60%, of the initial capital. but eventually lost all. because I put a target profit up 200%
for martingale you need a really really big balance but as you said you can only get 30 - 60 % PROFIT you need to change tactics in order to get more then 100% yes I usually play with capital 0.01 or more, but usually I use the base bet 10-100 sat, and it was enough to withstand a long strike ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but keep ultimately lose, because of the barrage of red too long, yes sometimes I weird for it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But it doesnt matter if you use low base bet or high because its equal in winnings, if you use 10 sat base bet you would have to win millions of bets to make profit and after millions of bets your chances of getting a big lose streak increase. yes so using martingale, in the end will always be lost ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) you have a good method? for the autobet? i usually play like this: bet 1.000 sat base bet. so for example: bet (1.000) lost bet (1.000) lost bet (2.000) if win go base bet bet (2.000) lost bet (4.000) if win bet again until you win twice, if lose bet (4.000) lost bet (8.000) and so on, you are safer this way, its the same afterall honestly, but i played on 999dice today and i was able to win some money by playing a little bit, then stopping, then playing again in a few minutes
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March 09, 2015, 01:51:39 PM |
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Wow this question really is still on the top? really? Martingale is the easiest system to let run a casino go in the long run.
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leex1528
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March 09, 2015, 02:05:54 PM |
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Wow this question really is still on the top? really? Martingale is the easiest system to let run a casino go in the long run.
True, But playing any games at a casino is technically the easiest way to lose your money. They don't have billion dollar casinos because everyone is winning. If you play expect to lose, thus only bring what you can afford to lose!
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March 09, 2015, 02:13:42 PM |
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Wow this question really is still on the top? really? Martingale is the easiest system to let run a casino go in the long run.
True, But playing any games at a casino is technically the easiest way to lose your money. They don't have billion dollar casinos because everyone is winning. If you play expect to lose, thus only bring what you can afford to lose! not all lose from casino, you can either lose or win from casino, everyone got a different piece of luckyness, although i agree i never saw a person that bust out a casino or gambling sites, the best i'd seen was hufflepuff banging out PD for 4k BTC, but the site still up and rolling as like nothing happened
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leex1528
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March 09, 2015, 02:26:38 PM |
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Wow this question really is still on the top? really? Martingale is the easiest system to let run a casino go in the long run.
True, But playing any games at a casino is technically the easiest way to lose your money. They don't have billion dollar casinos because everyone is winning. If you play expect to lose, thus only bring what you can afford to lose! not all lose from casino, you can either lose or win from casino, everyone got a different piece of luckyness, although i agree i never saw a person that bust out a casino or gambling sites, the best i'd seen was hufflepuff banging out PD for 4k BTC, but the site still up and rolling as like nothing happened I am not trying to say people will lose no matter what. I am saying the odds are not in your favor, and the more and more you play the more they are not in your favor. Every casino has a house edge, and while you may win 70% of the time at the start, the more and more you play get you closer to that house edge, thus the more and more you play you are more and more likely to lose.
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XinXan
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March 09, 2015, 02:27:22 PM |
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Wow this question really is still on the top? really? Martingale is the easiest system to let run a casino go in the long run.
True, But playing any games at a casino is technically the easiest way to lose your money. They don't have billion dollar casinos because everyone is winning. If you play expect to lose, thus only bring what you can afford to lose! not all lose from casino, you can either lose or win from casino, everyone got a different piece of luckyness, although i agree i never saw a person that bust out a casino or gambling sites, the best i'd seen was hufflepuff banging out PD for 4k BTC, but the site still up and rolling as like nothing happened I am not trying to say people will lose no matter what. I am saying the odds are not in your favor, and the more and more you play the more they are not in your favor. Every casino has a house edge, and while you may win 70% of the time at the start, the more and more you play get you closer to that house edge, thus the more and more you play you are more and more likely to lose. If everyone went to a casino, played a little bit made 5$ profit and left and never came back again, casinos would probably start loosing money but no one is gonna do that
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March 09, 2015, 02:33:42 PM |
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I am not trying to say people will lose no matter what. I am saying the odds are not in your favor, and the more and more you play the more they are not in your favor. Every casino has a house edge, and while you may win 70% of the time at the start, the more and more you play get you closer to that house edge, thus the more and more you play you are more and more likely to lose.
I agree, the odds are not in our favor but i disagree with the bolded part , each roll is a fixed house edge, it never increase or decrease if you play in a fixed odds gambling sites while in variable house edge like moneypot, the odds will keep on increasing, that is why it is called variable house edge If everyone went to a casino, played a little bit made 5$ profit and left and never came back again, casinos would probably start loosing money but no one is gonna do that
everyone already know about this, but the fact is everyone wants more because a profit of $5 isnt really much, they wish to get atleast few hundreds buck, therefore , the more they play, they lose their bankroll abit by a bit
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steven.G999
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March 09, 2015, 02:52:19 PM |
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for usually work until profit 30-60%, of the initial capital. but eventually lost all. because I put a target profit up 200%
for martingale you need a really really big balance but as you said you can only get 30 - 60 % PROFIT you need to change tactics in order to get more then 100% yes I usually play with capital 0.01 or more, but usually I use the base bet 10-100 sat, and it was enough to withstand a long strike ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) but keep ultimately lose, because of the barrage of red too long, yes sometimes I weird for it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But it doesnt matter if you use low base bet or high because its equal in winnings, if you use 10 sat base bet you would have to win millions of bets to make profit and after millions of bets your chances of getting a big lose streak increase. yes so using martingale, in the end will always be lost ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) you have a good method? for the autobet? i usually play like this: bet 1.000 sat base bet. so for example: bet (1.000) lost bet (1.000) lost bet (2.000) if win go base bet bet (2.000) lost bet (4.000) if win bet again until you win twice, if lose bet (4.000) lost bet (8.000) and so on, you are safer this way, its the same afterall honestly, but i played on 999dice today and i was able to win some money by playing a little bit, then stopping, then playing again in a few minutes This method seems pretty good, I will try haha ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) thanks, my good luck using your method ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This works well in PD?
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March 09, 2015, 02:56:19 PM |
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If find that martingale works until it doesn't, once you have one bad streak you lose a lot. It is one of the better ways because of the reduced risk that the system provides but it is not perfect so there is still a chance that you will lose.
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March 09, 2015, 02:57:40 PM |
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it works to a point, then busts as soon as you hit an unlucky streak, which is always possible.
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XinXan
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March 09, 2015, 03:14:49 PM |
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Martingale only works for very short term & if you have luck You will lose faster if you play at site which have bigger house edge ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I better try all-in with 1.1x for 3 times & withdraw Honestly house edge doesnt even matter that much, you would lose even with 0% house edge using martingale.
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leex1528
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March 09, 2015, 03:16:31 PM |
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I am not trying to say people will lose no matter what. I am saying the odds are not in your favor, and the more and more you play the more they are not in your favor. Every casino has a house edge, and while you may win 70% of the time at the start, the more and more you play get you closer to that house edge, thus the more and more you play you are more and more likely to lose.
I agree, the odds are not in our favor but i disagree with the bolded part , each roll is a fixed house edge, it never increase or decrease if you play in a fixed odds gambling sites while in variable house edge like moneypot, the odds will keep on increasing, that is why it is called variable house edge If everyone went to a casino, played a little bit made 5$ profit and left and never came back again, casinos would probably start loosing money but no one is gonna do that
everyone already know about this, but the fact is everyone wants more because a profit of $5 isnt really much, they wish to get atleast few hundreds buck, therefore , the more they play, they lose their bankroll abit by a bit I was referring to Casinos, I don't think they have variable house edge at all(I could be wrong) Every hand of what you play, the closer you will get to their house edge and thus, are more likely to lose, please correct me if I am wrong though
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March 09, 2015, 03:38:02 PM |
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Funny that this thread got revived after so long dead. Basically, if anyone really wants to know the deal with martingale, they should read the wikipedia page about it. It lays out the math and the facts pretty straightforwardly in my opinion.
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