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[TimC]

Two questions: why is my wallet balance constantly difference (lower) when I look up my addy on the block? And, what do the transactions in brackets ex. [.16573] mean versus ones without brackets? They've seemed to confirm and have been added to my qt balance.. but again the discrepancies between the block and my wallet are drastic and I'm hoping to get some information about this.

If you double click on one of those transactions that are in brackets you will see something like the following (Look at code sample). You will see those are staking coins and the transaction is still being confirmed and during that time it will remove coins from your balance. This shows a Net amount: -1.232308 MMXIV. So when you look at the rich list it shows total but your wallet is shows spendable which is the (total - staking = spendable). So when you are staking coins your wallet will not match with the BE or rich list.

Code:

Status: 3/unconfirmed, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 12/23/2014 10:08
Debit: 0.00 MMXIV
Net amount: -1.232308 MMXIV
Transaction ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Staked coins must wait 520 blocks before they can return to balance and be spent. When you generated this proof-of-stake block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not accepted" and not be a valid stake. This may occasionally happen if another node generates a proof-of-stake block within a few seconds of yours.

[chilly2k]

Two questions: why is my wallet balance constantly difference (lower) when I look up my addy on the block? And, what do the transactions in brackets ex. [.16573] mean versus ones without brackets? They've seemed to confirm and have been added to my qt balance.. but again the discrepancies between the block and my wallet are drastic and I'm hoping to get some information about this.

   There is a bug in the wallet.  The balance is not always correctly displayed.  It happens sometimes when you have blocks staking.  The brackets means you have blocks staking.  They are confirmed but not yet available.  The block is confirmed after 6 confirmations, and available after 120.  

   To see your actual balance go into the debug console and enter getinfo.  That should show the correct balance and stake values.  

[chilly2k]

Two questions: why is my wallet balance constantly difference (lower) when I look up my addy on the block? And, what do the transactions in brackets ex. [.16573] mean versus ones without brackets? They've seemed to confirm and have been added to my qt balance.. but again the discrepancies between the block and my wallet are drastic and I'm hoping to get some information about this.

If you double click on one of those transactions that are in brackets you will see something like the following (Look at code sample). You will see those are staking coins and the transaction is still being confirmed and during that time it will remove coins from your balance. This shows a Net amount: -1.232308 MMXIV. So when you look at the rich list it shows total but your wallet is shows spendable which is the (total - staking = spendable)

Code:

Status: 3/unconfirmed, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 12/23/2014 10:08
Debit: 0.00 MMXIV
Net amount: -1.232308 MMXIV
Transaction ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Staked coins must wait 520 blocks before they can return to balance and be spent. When you generated this proof-of-stake block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not accepted" and not be a valid stake. This may occasionally happen if another node generates a proof-of-stake block within a few seconds of yours.

That's interesting.  They missed updating the message.  MMXIV is spendable/available after 120 blocks not 520.  

[TimC]

Two questions: why is my wallet balance constantly difference (lower) when I look up my addy on the block? And, what do the transactions in brackets ex. [.16573] mean versus ones without brackets? They've seemed to confirm and have been added to my qt balance.. but again the discrepancies between the block and my wallet are drastic and I'm hoping to get some information about this.

   There is a bug in the wallet.  The balance is not always correctly displayed.  It happens sometimes when you have blocks staking.  The brackets means you have blocks staking.  They are confirmed but not yet available.  The block is confirmed after 6 confirmations, and available after 120.  

   To see your actual balance go into the debug console and enter getinfo.  That should show the correct balance and stake values.  

Well it's not really a bug since what the wallet is showing are spendable coins. What the wallet really needs is a total column which would be the total amount of coins held in the wallet and spendable which are those coins that are not staking that can be spent. Here is a sample from another wallet.

[chilly2k]

Two questions: why is my wallet balance constantly difference (lower) when I look up my addy on the block? And, what do the transactions in brackets ex. [.16573] mean versus ones without brackets? They've seemed to confirm and have been added to my qt balance.. but again the discrepancies between the block and my wallet are drastic and I'm hoping to get some information about this.

   There is a bug in the wallet.  The balance is not always correctly displayed.  It happens sometimes when you have blocks staking.  The brackets means you have blocks staking.  They are confirmed but not yet available.  The block is confirmed after 6 confirmations, and available after 120.  

   To see your actual balance go into the debug console and enter getinfo.  That should show the correct balance and stake values.  

Well it's not really a bug since what the wallet is showing are spendable coins. What the wallet really needs is a total column which would be the total amount of coins held in the wallet and spendable which are those coins that are not staking that can be spent. Here is a sample from another wallet.

   The spendable value is correct, but the stakes value is not always correct.  Sometimes it misses a block.  In that case your spendable + stake total is not close to what you actually have.  The stake total from getinfo is accurate.   

[iGotSpots]

Pools should both be back up. I don't have any other details, sorry

[Phosphorous]

Time for an Antminer S5 Raffle?

[iGotSpots]

I sent 1 MMXIV to each address on the multipool to compensate for the downtime

[ButtCrack]

@iGotSpots
Is there a minimum value of stack size were it does not get split after staking ?
What happens if multiple stacks are created on 1 address and 1 stack staked ?
Are the other stacks left alone ?

[iGotSpots]

@iGotSpots
Is there a minimum value of stack size were it does not get split after staking ?
What happens if multiple stacks are created on 1 address and 1 stack staked ?
Are the other stacks left alone ?

Each stack is separately calculated. They only split if you stake at or near the 24 hour mark. If it takes 2 days to stake, it won't split. Splitting doesn't affect the total amount of coins. Instead of getting 1 stake for 2 coins, you would get 2 stakes for 1 coin each

[ButtCrack]

@iGotSpots
Is there a minimum value of stack size were it does not get split after staking ?
What happens if multiple stacks are created on 1 address and 1 stack staked ?
Are the other stacks left alone ?

Each stack is separately calculated. They only split if you stake at or near the 24 hour mark. If it takes 2 days to stake, it won't split. Splitting doesn't affect the total amount of coins. Instead of getting 1 stake for 2 coins, you would get 2 stakes for 1 coin each

So lets see if I got it correct :
Just like other POS coins a stack gets split in 50/50 but only when age is around 24 hrs, but not when age is 2 days or more.
If user does not re-combine then you would end up with "dust".
As is common, small stacks take more time to gain weight and because of that more time to stake.
This applies for both, MMXIV and BALLS.
Am I correct ?
Is there any max reward or capping ?

[iGotSpots]

@iGotSpots
Is there a minimum value of stack size were it does not get split after staking ?
What happens if multiple stacks are created on 1 address and 1 stack staked ?
Are the other stacks left alone ?

Each stack is separately calculated. They only split if you stake at or near the 24 hour mark. If it takes 2 days to stake, it won't split. Splitting doesn't affect the total amount of coins. Instead of getting 1 stake for 2 coins, you would get 2 stakes for 1 coin each

So lets see if I got it correct :
Just like other POS coins a stack gets split in 50/50 but only when age is around 24 hrs, but not when age is 2 days or more.
If user does not re-combine then you would end up with "dust".
As is common, small stacks take more time to gain weight and because of that more time to stake.
This applies for both, MMXIV and BALLS.
Am I correct ?
Is there any max reward or capping ?

There is no cap

[chilly2k]

@iGotSpots
Is there a minimum value of stack size were it does not get split after staking ?
What happens if multiple stacks are created on 1 address and 1 stack staked ?
Are the other stacks left alone ?

Each stack is separately calculated. They only split if you stake at or near the 24 hour mark. If it takes 2 days to stake, it won't split. Splitting doesn't affect the total amount of coins. Instead of getting 1 stake for 2 coins, you would get 2 stakes for 1 coin each

So lets see if I got it correct :
Just like other POS coins a stack gets split in 50/50 but only when age is around 24 hrs, but not when age is 2 days or more.
If user does not re-combine then you would end up with "dust".
As is common, small stacks take more time to gain weight and because of that more time to stake.
This applies for both, MMXIV and BALLS.
Am I correct ?
Is there any max reward or capping ?

   The stake splits 50/50 when the age is less then 2 days. 

The idea behind this is to level out the block staking.  If all the blocks were left in large groups, you could have intermittent staking as each block would stake as soon as it was old enough.  But if the network didn't have enough mature blocks to stake, and move the blockchain, everyone would have to wait till one matures.  This is a wonderful implementation for a long term stable network, but stinks for people looking to maximize their stakes while moving coins back and forth to exchanges to trade.  I would assume when you withdraw coins from your wallet you will get the youngest coins.  Haven't checked that. 

Since the splitting only happens for blocks less then 2 days old, eventually your smaller blocks will take longer then 2 days to stake and will not be divided.  They'll start to grow with the added interest.  Eventually they'll get big enough that they stake in less then 2 days and are then divided.   

I believe this is true for both MMXIV and Balls. 

Nothing like HYPs Max reward cap. 

  It makes sense to me, but sometimes when I try to explain to explain things, they don't make sense.
   
    Hope it helps. 

[iGotSpots]

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[iGotSpots]

Contest over

[iGotSpots]

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[Trololoh]

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Nice surprise !
Did not expect to win anything.
Thanks !

[iGotSpots]

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Nice surprise !
Did not expect to win anything.
Thanks !

No problem at all, thanks for playing

[Phosphorous]

2700 blocks found for the current pool shift, the Dec 23 shift is still "trading." Looks like the someone has left the "store" unattended. Are we going to for the "#longestpoolshiftever again?

[iGotSpots]

2700 blocks found for the current pool shift, the Dec 23 shift is still "trading." Looks like the someone has left the "store" unattended. Are we going to for the "#longestpoolshiftever again?

It's the day after Christmas, I assume ThePeePs is spending time with his family. We are only a two man team for everything, we are doing our best. I'll send him a message real quick and have him come update you guys