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July 08, 2014, 11:37:52 AM |
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From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances.
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qawzsx
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July 08, 2014, 11:38:07 AM |
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Hello all.
I don't post much on these forums, am a bit of a quiet man. But this is the first time I feel an urge to write and say something to a few of you on the internet. I have been around XC from the beginning, I am not a big/rich investor in cryptoworld, I only hold a few coins. I have seen and felt the pump to 0,005 and the dump after. I haven't sold any of my coins and I still haven't bought any new ones till this moment. Why? Let me tell you why.
I realise there are a lot of traders in this cryptoworld who are going to the advantages of these hypes before releases by pumping and dumping. I don't mind that, they're actually good from time to time so other people notice us. What I don't get are the people who are acting like little children when there is a minor and unclear obstacle on the road. By reading some of the comments on the past pages it feels like there was a catastrophic event. But there wasn't. The announcements were maybe to much, but still.. Are we not making progress? Aren't we closer to our goal (XC goal) each day? People should stick together and take a breath.
NONE of us is going to get rich over night. You believe in something, buy it and hold it. There is a million coins out there, but is there truly a coin developed in such a short time with a better potential than XC? Developer, a public figure with clear intentions for the future? Maybe there is, but I ain't seeing it. If you can't believe the XC team (specially the dev), I don't know who you can in this cryptoworld. There are huge things coming up in the future with this coin/platform, and I want to be a part of it. Don't you?
My intentions with this little writing are not to pump/dump the price, I just had to clear my mind and I had to say a few words to ease people. I do believe the XC team are going to clear things up, but they are human beings and they can't be online 24/7 to answer all the questions and clear the situation. Let them be and let them do their work! If there was anything else I could do to help them out, I would but I am not a computer guy, I am an industrial engineer with a little love for tech inovations. But this writing is my best help.
Peace! -N
Well said. +1000 + 10^500. Crazy. I also don't usually write on this thread, but now I think I'm going to have to. WTF do people expect?! - if you were hyper that we would be at 0.01 btc from today then you are just a pumper/dumper victim waiting to happen and I'm surprised you have anything left. As far as I can see the devs are giving what they promised. The fact that rev2.5 will have the new gui kind of guarantees this one is going to look pretty similar. (But every wallet an xnode?!!) If you complain on this thread then you're either a fudder or you're just proving how stupid you are - since nothing drops the price as quickly as a thread full of accusations - I know this because it killed xlb. The only thing that rescued this coin while xlb died was the incredibly professional response of the devs to all the crap that was flying around the previous XC thread - essentially politely refuting ridiculous claims and just getting back to business. I have no doubt that they will act as professionally today as well although who could blame them if they didn't. I would just say to them that for every ass-hole comment on here there are 20 folks out there that are supremely confident in your abilities. To be honest I suspect that many of the butthurt people just sold at 155000. For those that follow these things, it looks for the moment like we're back inside the gently ascending channel we have been following since June 7th. Maybe we'll break out again maybe not - either way seems fine to me - since we will be around 0.01 in 6 months if we stay inside it and all without breaking a sweat or staring for hours at your screen gambling which way it's going to move in the next 5 minutes. By the way you could have made much more money trading that channel than an overnight pump to 0.01 - if you didn't then I would go back to your day job - or just hodl for an easy life (as I do). +1
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July 08, 2014, 11:38:53 AM |
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One thing is for certain... these dumpers are not getting their coins back cheap.
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synechist
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July 08, 2014, 11:41:17 AM |
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[snip]
From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances. For example I've previously informed people in advance that there'll be an announcement so that those not online at the time get a chance to hear the news. Some people perceive this as hyping an announcement. Though this is true respecting the fact that people resultantly get excited, that is, "hyped", about the announcement, it's not true that informing people in advance is hyping. The hype is in the excited people, not in the information. But this doesn't mean I should necessarily carry on doing things this way. I'll think this over.
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Queeq
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July 08, 2014, 11:41:29 AM |
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Updates will be very frequent and the app will go onto the mainnet in due course.
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Sorry to hear about personal problems of one of the devs. Hope everything resolves the best way. Also, did I understand correctly, that rev.2 is not ready for mainnet yet? Any ETA? Thanks.
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July 08, 2014, 11:43:13 AM |
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Back to 210k and climbing steadily. Looks like the post to clarify everything worked glad I held onto my coins.
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qawzsx
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July 08, 2014, 11:44:28 AM |
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Updates will be very frequent and the app will go onto the mainnet in due course.
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Sorry to hear about personal problems of one of the devs. Hope everything resolves the best way. Also, did I understand correctly, that rev.2 is not ready for mainnet yet? Any ETA? Thanks. No, the Rev.2 is ready for the mainnet, but its the right thing to release it in testnet only to be 100% sure about everything. So, I dare all of you to setup a virtual machine or something, and lets all test this new release in every aspect, and submit our feedback, instead of bitching like some retards on the forum...
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qawzsx
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July 08, 2014, 11:45:34 AM |
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holyprofit
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July 08, 2014, 11:45:39 AM |
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I'm a bitch
Sold at 155000? I think what you meant to say is "no respect at all as I try to trash the thing you're devoting your time to". There I corrected that for you.
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July 08, 2014, 11:46:06 AM |
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From what I gather you are a self-proclaimed PR "manager" that has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can. How can there be a compile issue that prevents releasing a wallet. If you are working on a software project, in a unnmanaged language like C++ which the wallet is made in you write code, compile, test and repeat which means there must have been intermediate versions all along or THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY WORKING MAINNET IMPLEMENTATION EVER, AT ALL which is the most plausible situation given that ridiciolous and stupid explaination you've made. I won't even go and touch the issue of "announcements of annoucements" which is nothing but pure market manipulation and not done in any good faith. You have reason to be frustrated, so I won't begrudge you that. self-proclaimed PR "manager" -
No. I'm not a manager. My job title is "PR and media liaison". has no clue and idea what is going on and just push the hype train as far as you can
I will let you judge my work as you wish, and I'll respect those judgements. However I disagree. Dear Synechist, Even if this whole project fails (witch it won't) it has been worth my while. The Coolness and wisdom with witch you reply to every post is truly inspiring. I think we can all learn (at least) that from you. Keep up the Coolness good work! Thank you. Much appreciated. I'll try to improve by not creating the impression that I hype things. In my opinion I've only talked about the fundamentals, but perhaps being excited about them isn't appropriate in some circumstances. For example I've previously informed people in advance that there'll be an announcement so that those not online at the time get a chance to hear the news. Some people perceive this as hyping an announcement. Though this is true respecting the fact that people resultantly get excited, that is, "hyped", about the announcement, it's not true that informing people in advance is hyping. The hype is in the excited people, not in the information. But this doesn't mean I should necessarily carry on doing things this way. I'll think this over. There's saying... hateres gonna hate. Don't worry about the haters. You are doing something right if you have haters. XC team is delivering. Just keep focusing on it and ignore the trolls/haters.
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qawzsx
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July 08, 2014, 11:46:26 AM |
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I'm a bitch
Sold at 155000? I think what you meant to say is "no respect at all as I try to trash the thing you're devoting your time to". There I corrected that for you. Edit your quote please...
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synechist
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July 08, 2014, 11:46:38 AM |
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Updates will be very frequent and the app will go onto the mainnet in due course.
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Sorry to hear about personal problems of one of the devs. Hope everything resolves the best way. Also, did I understand correctly, that rev.2 is not ready for mainnet yet? Any ETA? Thanks. Rev 2 is functioning as expected on testnet. Dan will keep releasing updates, and will let us know when it's ready for the mainnet. We wouldn't want to risk your funds, so we will be exceedingly cautious about this. New and revolutionary technology means nothing to a person who loses his/her funds using it. Nonetheless mainnet will be soon.
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holyprofit
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July 08, 2014, 11:48:52 AM |
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I'm a bitch
Sold at 155000? I think what you meant to say is "no respect at all as I try to trash the thing you're devoting your time to". There I corrected that for you. Edit your quote please... lol
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Bitcycle
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July 08, 2014, 11:50:25 AM |
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Crypto bubble is about to end. Trust is slowly fading away in this community (that goes for every coin), IPO scams, trolling/fudding, this is not what alt-currencies was meant to be about.
Greed is the worst disease known to man - it makes us do the most craziest things, and really this place is just like wall street 2.0. It does not represent freedom at all, only chaos.
All the respect to the XC team and atcsecure for the hard work. Sorry it had to end this way.
Sure, but this will just cause what's known as "the flight to quality". XC and a couple other coins are the quality. They're all that's going to survive the recent insanity.
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Queeq
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July 08, 2014, 11:51:43 AM |
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Rev 2 is functioning as expected on testnet.
Dan will keep releasing updates, and will let us know when it's ready for the mainnet.
We wouldn't want to risk your funds, so we will be exceedingly cautious about this. New and revolutionary technology means nothing to a person who loses his/her funds using it.
Nonetheless mainnet will be soon.
I understand that announcements can be perceived too radically, though it would be nice to know at least rough timeframe. The pessimistic one. Especially after everyone thought it was going to be ready for mainnet yesterday.
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Bitcycle
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July 08, 2014, 11:52:38 AM |
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So, as I predicted... Team is awake. FUD mysteriously disappears. (How does that happen? IDK ) Everyone who panic sold feels foolish. The panic sellers are also looking at some thin asks. Better buy back fast, kids.
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policymaker
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July 08, 2014, 11:54:44 AM |
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I have a question Guys
I bought many XC this morning and now i consider to stake them. But i am also not sure what will happen with xc price. So i would like to let em on exchange.
Somebody can tell me how much Xc profit u make for staking 2010XC in a day? Haven t found a formula to calculate or some experiences
Somebody replied already and I think he was spot on, you can look forward to something more than 1 xc per week. Morning all
After staying awake for 23 hours I've now got a few hours' sleep and would like to do my best to field questions about Rev 2.
First off, I am sincerely sorry for having let you all down. I appreciate how a late, testnet-only release has injured your faith in XC, in the team, and in ATCsecure. We're very sorry for both what happened and for how we handled it. Down to the last 30 minutes we all believed, as most of you did, that the release would come out in time. If we had not thought this, then we would have informed you as early as possible about a delay and taken the hit. But we did believe it would be released. Unfortunately there was a single issue with the mainnet compile, that Dan identified and understood, yet that would take too long to resolve.
The broader reason for not having released on time are circumstances over the weekend that have nothing to do with development, severe in nature, and private to the affected person, which unavoidably took up the majority of this person's time. It's frustrating, but in a small team these sorts of events have a large effect. Nonetheless we were confident that the release would be out in time, but some minor details (and our complete unwillingness to risk your funds) prevented it.
But what we have achieved is nonetheless a world first. Until today, there has never been a decentralised trustless mixer. And now there is, in the app you downloaded today.
I've been saying for a while that XC is not semi-centralised, therefore no "security bottleneck" in the form of supernodes.
Well, with Rev 2 every singe wallet is automatically an Xnode. It's completely decentralised.
This should address people's questions about how to set up an Xnode in Rev 2. It's set up already. Just start testing it, and track what it does in the blockchain.
Updates will be very frequent and the app will go onto the mainnet in due course.
We're also unveiling the promised announcements today and tomorrow, and they're no less positive.
Enjoy what's good about the situation: a world-first that in fact surpasses the Xnode/normal node distinction, which is better than what we stated we'd release. This, plus the fact that XC's fundamentals are the same, plus the news we have to share with you later today, paints a very optimistic picture.
Ask me as many questions as you like. I can't promise to be able to answer all of them, since I'm not the dev, but I'll try.
Humbly,
Arlyn
You guys have done a great job, don't listen to any1. I feel like most people here are living in their own fictional crypto-bubble. I am an experienced PC user and having been a gamer for the most part of my life, I am just TOO familiar with BIG, FUCKING MULTIBILLION software companies underdelivering/overpromising and fukin their clients over and over again. You are trying to revolutionize a whole freaking scene here, not release a fucking game, and yet people lose it and go ape shit with every freaking inconvenience. My only regret is being all in and not being able to purchase more of XC. That's my only real concern right now. What I do not regret, is NOT being in Dan's team. These guys work their ass off, and at every small misstep they hear it from 80% of the fucking "community". Team has immense cohones and stomach. To all our "friends" and "longtime holders", a sincere FUCK YOU for losing ur faith on some FREAKING 5 POST FUD ACCOUNTS. SRSLY. If I had 1 month worth more of experience in this scene id manipulate the shit out of you in losing all your money and I would buy you over 3 times till XC got mainstream. Im not saying, dont critisice the team on missteps and under-delivering, but BE JUST and provide constructive critisism for the love of GOD. 5 POST FUD ACCOUNTS FOR THE FUK OF GOD.Thank you team for all your hard work, im still boarding the moon train.
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July 08, 2014, 11:57:03 AM |
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I just don't hope that XC will become another LTC, I hope it gets way better.
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July 08, 2014, 11:57:26 AM |
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Hello all.
NONE of us is going to get rich over night.
Peace! -N
I'm sorry but this could save it "NONE of us is going to get rich over night." from 305000 sold at 155000? 50% of the value? I want to see what will happen in the next few days, so be written in the alt history books.
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