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May be I misunderstood... I can not distinguish who payed whom, because there are 3 inputs and 6 outputs in a single transaction. But if I consider that 6 outputs alone, I can see what amount of coins has been received by every address: Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 Not yet redeemed 1 XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp DUP HASH160 20:5815...8aa4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 Not yet redeemed 220.379627 XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua DUP HASH160 20:b32e...4eff EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG and so on. Given me to be a tax officer, I say to the adress XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp: "pay tax 10% or 0.1", XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua: pay tax 10% or 22.0379627 and so on.. What is wrong with me? Where I mistake? You also tax the change btw: See absolute no way to trace where that payment wend, it's just not on the bc ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Can't wait for the wallet to finalize so we can start collecting for a big bounty to track this Being tax officer, I am quite short-sighted creature, I just wanna get as more taxes as I could. Agree, I can not tax decentralized mixer, so I throw this rotten idea. Also I throw address XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp - tax too low to be profitable to take. Instead, just like at Bitcoin blockchain, I focus upon address XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua, and shake out all the 22.0379627 money from it. Does upcoming Rev.3 fixes this issue? P.s. I mentioned Income tax (not Profit tax). Income tax is widely common in the world.
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Site and video look fantastic and the news with Rev2 is very exciting good work. I really think the video will help attract people to this coin. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I wish I could take more advantage and stack some xc at the current prices.
As much as I love this video, we are definitely gonna need a much more simplified one for normal folks at some point. If i showed that to any of my friends or family they wouldn't have a clue what it was about. Yeah this video is more geared towards tech people, but I hear what you say, we will need a non-techy version down the road. A laymans video that my mom or sister could understand and how it would make things easier for them. No credit card fees, ATM fees etc etc. Actually I am really glad to hear these comments. This video was targeted toward the people who are currently in or at least aware of cryptocurrency. We need a simpler version that speaks to the average person in order to reach the masses. While the people in that market have not yet arrived, they are on the horizon and we plan on being there with the tools to reach them when they start to show up. We are currently looking at what that will take to produce. Believe it or not we do have a developing plan! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Video's great - however I hate to say it but as a consumer of advertising the bimbos on the blackcoin video sound sexier. I'm only half joking. Combination of tech + bimbo => every adolescent kid will buy into it. yeah yeah a "crypto bimbo!"
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Wow every wallet is an xnode? That's amazing news, much better than dark's master nodes where it's much more tedious (plus the forks) to set up. This coin is just getting started Part of the problem for the price struggling is that Dan did not clearly explain this when he released REV2... this is a mistake of his. However, it is good for anyone investing now. Especially as Dan will be releasing formal documents explaining the tech & significance of REV2, and what it means for XC moving forward. From an outside investor standpoint the coindesk article didn't help either. do you mean this one? http://www.coindesk.com/isis-bitcoin-donations-fund-jihadist-movements/Well , Fuck Them !!, how can a crypto news site spread this biased peace of propaganda, i'm all for a peacefull contact between the coin communities, but this article should get all the hate it deserves. No matter if you into XC, Dark, Bitcoin, Litecoin, whatever. Tell em where they could stick that little write up. you have to expect the powers that be (who do NOT want this technology implemented) will utilize fear mongering to it's fullest. it is sad that there is no such thing as independant media ...most likely coindesk was strong armed. this is simply my opinion based on years of learning to read in between the lines. on a side note, it was my thought this morning that it could also conceivably be paypal who is responsible for the recent "dump". in the long run, a short term loss would be a great investment for them. they're pulling out the big guns now, expect to be blind-sided. (this isn't FUD, I have more than my share invested in this coin and that is where I'm keeping it. You guys are great!)
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July 08, 2014, 09:21:43 PM |
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May be I misunderstood... I can not distinguish who payed whom, because there are 3 inputs and 6 outputs in a single transaction. But if I consider that 6 outputs alone, I can see what amount of coins has been received by every address: Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 Not yet redeemed 1 XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp DUP HASH160 20:5815...8aa4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 Not yet redeemed 220.379627 XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua DUP HASH160 20:b32e...4eff EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG and so on. Given me to be a tax officer, I say to the adress XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp: "pay tax 10% or 0.1", XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua: pay tax 10% or 22.0379627 and so on.. What is wrong with me? Where I mistake? You also tax the change btw: See absolute no way to trace where that payment wend, it's just not on the bc ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Can't wait for the wallet to finalize so we can start collecting for a big bounty to track this Being tax officer, I am quite short-sighted creature, I just wanna get as more taxes as I could. Agree, I can not tax decentralized mixer, so I throw this rotten idea. Also I throw address XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp - tax too low to be profitable to take. Instead, just like at Bitcoin blockchain, I focus upon address XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua, and shake out all the 22.0379627 money from it. Does upcoming Rev.3 fixes this issue? I am not an expert but, to start you would have to know who owns it. You would also need to know I assume why the XC was transferred and from whom. Do you tax gifts paying off debt moving to a different account for the same person? If you were doing some kind of tax on wealth I guess you could tax the addresses but then again would have to know who owns it to be able to tax them.
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July 08, 2014, 09:22:06 PM |
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Notice the way the website design matches the look of the video.
That's the kind of branding you get when you have real professionals on board.
click FUNDAMENTALS then try to click HOW-TO without everything jump all over the places. professional site wouldn't make this so confused. Im sure when it was released it was mentioned there may be improvements needed. Im sure this will get sorted. Think how quickly the new site/video/logo/etc all came about since Thrash won the logo comp a few weeks ago.
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July 08, 2014, 09:28:29 PM |
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May be I misunderstood... I can not distinguish who payed whom, because there are 3 inputs and 6 outputs in a single transaction. But if I consider that 6 outputs alone, I can see what amount of coins has been received by every address: Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 Not yet redeemed 1 XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp DUP HASH160 20:5815...8aa4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 Not yet redeemed 220.379627 XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua DUP HASH160 20:b32e...4eff EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG and so on. Given me to be a tax officer, I say to the adress XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp: "pay tax 10% or 0.1", XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua: pay tax 10% or 22.0379627 and so on.. What is wrong with me? Where I mistake? You also tax the change btw: See absolute no way to trace where that payment wend, it's just not on the bc ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Can't wait for the wallet to finalize so we can start collecting for a big bounty to track this Being tax officer, I am quite short-sighted creature, I just wanna get as more taxes as I could. Agree, I can not tax decentralized mixer, so I throw this rotten idea. Also I throw address XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp - tax too low to be profitable to take. Instead, just like at Bitcoin blockchain, I focus upon address XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua, and shake out all the 22.0379627 money from it. Does upcoming Rev.3 fixes this issue? I am not an expert but, to start you would have to know who owns it. You would also need to know I assume why the XC was transferred and from whom. Do you tax gifts paying off debt moving to a different account for the same person? If you were doing some kind of tax on wealth I guess you could tax the addresses but then again would have to know who owns it to be able to tax them. If so, I see no difference between X11Coin & Bitcoin. Just one error from you, and you are in a jail, just as Dread Pirate Roberts. Not for drugs, but for taxes. Or have I completely misunderstood all the things?!
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July 08, 2014, 09:29:18 PM |
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anyone got any ideas what tomorrows announcement will be?
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July 08, 2014, 09:29:54 PM |
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May be I misunderstood... I can not distinguish who payed whom, because there are 3 inputs and 6 outputs in a single transaction. But if I consider that 6 outputs alone, I can see what amount of coins has been received by every address: Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 Not yet redeemed 1 XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp DUP HASH160 20:5815...8aa4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 Not yet redeemed 220.379627 XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua DUP HASH160 20:b32e...4eff EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG and so on. Given me to be a tax officer, I say to the adress XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp: "pay tax 10% or 0.1", XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua: pay tax 10% or 22.0379627 and so on.. What is wrong with me? Where I mistake? You also tax the change btw: See absolute no way to trace where that payment wend, it's just not on the bc ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Can't wait for the wallet to finalize so we can start collecting for a big bounty to track this Being tax officer, I am quite short-sighted creature, I just wanna get as more taxes as I could. Agree, I can not tax decentralized mixer, so I throw this rotten idea. Also I throw address XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp - tax too low to be profitable to take. Instead, just like at Bitcoin blockchain, I focus upon address XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua, and shake out all the 22.0379627 money from it. Does upcoming Rev.3 fixes this issue? I am not an expert but, to start you would have to know who owns it. You would also need to know I assume why the XC was transferred and from whom. Do you tax gifts paying off debt moving to a different account for the same person? If you were doing some kind of tax on wealth I guess you could tax the addresses but then again would have to know who owns it to be able to tax them. If so, I see no difference between X11Coin & Bitcoin. Just one error from you, and you are in a jail, just as Dread Pirate Roberts. Not for drugs, but for taxes. Or have I completely misunderstood all the things?! I completely agree with you. This video illustrates our point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44
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July 08, 2014, 09:31:49 PM |
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May be I misunderstood... I can not distinguish who payed whom, because there are 3 inputs and 6 outputs in a single transaction. But if I consider that 6 outputs alone, I can see what amount of coins has been received by every address: Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 Not yet redeemed 1 XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp DUP HASH160 20:5815...8aa4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 Not yet redeemed 220.379627 XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua DUP HASH160 20:b32e...4eff EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG and so on. Given me to be a tax officer, I say to the adress XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp: "pay tax 10% or 0.1", XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua: pay tax 10% or 22.0379627 and so on.. What is wrong with me? Where I mistake? You also tax the change btw: See absolute no way to trace where that payment wend, it's just not on the bc ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Can't wait for the wallet to finalize so we can start collecting for a big bounty to track this Being tax officer, I am quite short-sighted creature, I just wanna get as more taxes as I could. Agree, I can not tax decentralized mixer, so I throw this rotten idea. Also I throw address XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp - tax too low to be profitable to take. Instead, just like at Bitcoin blockchain, I focus upon address XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua, and shake out all the 22.0379627 money from it. Does upcoming Rev.3 fixes this issue? I am not an expert but, to start you would have to know who owns it. You would also need to know I assume why the XC was transferred and from whom. Do you tax gifts paying off debt moving to a different account for the same person? If you were doing some kind of tax on wealth I guess you could tax the addresses but then again would have to know who owns it to be able to tax them. If so, I see no difference between X11Coin & Bitcoin. Just one error from you, and you are in a jail, just as Dread Pirate Roberts. Not for drugs, but for taxes. Or have I completely misunderstood all the things?! I completely agree with you. This video illustrates our point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
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...most likely coindesk was strong armed. this is simply my opinion based on years of learning to read in between the lines. on a side note, it was my thought this morning that it could also conceivably be paypal who is responsible for the recent "dump". in the long run, a short term loss would be a great investment for them. they're pulling out the big guns now, expect to be blind-sided. (this isn't FUD, I have more than my share invested in this coin and that is where I'm keeping it. You guys are great!)
exceedingly unlikely on these points. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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yeah yeah a "crypto bimbo!"
Aha, a crimbo? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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July 08, 2014, 09:49:24 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.
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July 08, 2014, 09:52:12 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache. You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves. Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes.
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July 08, 2014, 09:55:54 PM |
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Notice the way the website design matches the look of the video.
That's the kind of branding you get when you have real professionals on board.
the web site is shitty, it do look AWESOME though. click FUNDAMENTALS then try to click HOW-TO without everything jump all over the places. professional site wouldn't make this so confused. my suggestion moves those drop-down to the right and keeping FUNDAMENTALS and HOW-TO etc.. in places. it don't need to move up and down, jumping all over the places. also if there is no wallet for linux or MAC, yet, just say coming soon instead of redirect to main page as people would think there computer messed up. http://forum.xctalk.com have no logo, http://xctalk.com is still a godaddy and http://xc-official.com is broken. i take these kind of small things seriously as it would only take less then 5 minutes to fix all these. you wouldn't want to put your hard earn money into some kids playground which should take about 5 minutes to fix but too lazy to do it.
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July 08, 2014, 09:57:34 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache. You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves. Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes. u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man.
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July 08, 2014, 10:00:23 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache. You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves. Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes. u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man. Okay sure, but that greatly depends on the severity of the evasion. Normal mom and pops dont go to jail. Like I said, if that was the case we have many examples of people who owe taxes, many times years of taxes, and are not in jail.
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July 08, 2014, 10:02:50 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache. You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves. As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail )) Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service. Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient?
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July 08, 2014, 10:05:16 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache. You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves. Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes. u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man. Ask Wesley Snipes about not paying taxes.
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July 08, 2014, 10:05:49 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache. You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves. As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail )) Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service. Where I misunderstood? Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!
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July 08, 2014, 10:07:09 PM |
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(Lame FUD attempt deleted)
Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient?
Ya, what's the difference between your beloved XMR and bitcoin (besides XMR bloating the blockchain that is)?
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