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July 08, 2014, 09:31:49 PM
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TRUSTLESS MIXER SUCCESS!!! Tested with the main man ATC himself on the main network.

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/3a8446b55996c253cf35c19b7de29bce3351a55bf10eb03506e659815ba4870b#o0


May be I misunderstood... I can not distinguish who payed whom, because there are 3 inputs and 6 outputs in a single transaction. But if I consider that 6 outputs alone, I can see what amount of coins has been received by every address:

Index   Redeemed at input   Amount   To address   ScriptPubKey
0    Not yet redeemed    1    XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp    DUP HASH160 20:5815...8aa4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1    Not yet redeemed    220.379627    XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua    DUP HASH160 20:b32e...4eff EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
and so on.

Given me to be a tax officer, I say to the adress XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp: "pay tax 10% or 0.1", XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua: pay tax 10% or 22.0379627 and so on..

What is wrong with me? Where I mistake?

You also tax the change

btw: See absolute no way to trace where that payment wend, it's just not on the bc Smiley
Can't wait for the wallet to finalize so we can start collecting for a big bounty to track this

Being tax officer, I am quite short-sighted creature, I just wanna get as more taxes as I could.

Agree, I can not tax decentralized mixer, so I throw this rotten idea. Also I throw address XKNypbESp4cUGAKEJPMUhUFJPA8trns7Dp - tax too low to be profitable to take.

Instead, just like at Bitcoin blockchain, I focus upon address XTgfrwqtBPcbP61ZJ6YhD6iKmTDzWLBUua, and shake out all the 22.0379627 money from it.

Does upcoming Rev.3 fixes this issue?




I am not an expert but, to start you would have to know who owns it. You would also need to know I assume why the XC was transferred and from whom. Do you tax gifts paying off debt moving to a different account for the same person? If you were doing some kind of tax on wealth I guess you could tax the addresses but then again would have to know who owns it to be able to tax them.

If so, I see no difference between X11Coin & Bitcoin. Just one error from you, and you are in a jail, just as Dread Pirate Roberts. Not for drugs, but for taxes.

Or have I completely misunderstood all the things?!


I completely agree with you.  This video illustrates our point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44

I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
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July 08, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
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...most likely coindesk was strong armed. this is simply my opinion based on years of learning to read in between the lines. on a side note, it was my thought this morning that it could also conceivably be paypal who is responsible for the recent "dump". in the long run, a short term loss would be a great investment for them. they're pulling out the big guns now, expect to be blind-sided. (this isn't FUD, I have more than my share invested in this coin and that is where I'm keeping it. You guys are great!)

exceedingly unlikely on these points.  Roll Eyes
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July 08, 2014, 09:34:16 PM
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yeah yeah a "crypto bimbo!"

Aha, a crimbo?  Shocked

 
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July 08, 2014, 09:49:24 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.

Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!

Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?

Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?

P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.
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July 08, 2014, 09:52:12 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.

Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!

Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?

Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?

P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.


You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.

Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes.

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July 08, 2014, 09:55:54 PM
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Notice the way the website design matches the look of the video.

That's the kind of branding you get when you have real professionals on board.



the web site is shitty, it do look AWESOME though.
click FUNDAMENTALS then try to click HOW-TO without everything jump all over the places. professional site wouldn't make this so confused.
my suggestion moves those drop-down to the right and keeping  FUNDAMENTALS and HOW-TO etc.. in places. it don't need to move up and down, jumping all over the places.
also if there is no wallet for linux or MAC, yet, just say coming soon instead of redirect to main page as people would think there computer messed up.

http://forum.xctalk.com have no logo, http://xctalk.com is still a godaddy and http://xc-official.com is broken. i take these kind of small things seriously as it would only take less then 5 minutes to fix all these. you wouldn't want to put your hard earn money into some kids playground which should take about 5 minutes to fix but too lazy to do it.

i had never done any transaction on bitcointalk and never will, i scam no one. the scammers just don't like my posts.
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July 08, 2014, 09:57:34 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.

Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!

Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?

Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?

P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.


You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.

Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes.

u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man. 
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July 08, 2014, 10:00:23 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.

Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!

Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?

Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?

P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.


You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.

Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes.

u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man. 

Okay sure, but that greatly depends on the severity of the evasion. Normal mom and pops dont go to jail. Like I said, if that was the case we have many examples of people who owe taxes, many times years of taxes, and are not in jail.

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July 08, 2014, 10:02:50 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.

Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!

Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?

Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?

P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.


You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.

As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail ))

Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service.

Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient?

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July 08, 2014, 10:05:16 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.

Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!

Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?

Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?

P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.


You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.

Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes.

u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man. 

Ask Wesley Snipes about not paying taxes.
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July 08, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.

Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!

Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?

Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?

P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.


You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.

As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail ))

Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service.

Where I misunderstood?


Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!

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July 08, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
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(Lame FUD attempt deleted)

Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient?



Ya, what's the difference between your beloved XMR and bitcoin (besides XMR bloating the blockchain that is)?  

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July 08, 2014, 10:07:54 PM
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.




As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail ))

Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service.

Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient?



So, IRS can track, but not DEA?  hmm.
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July 08, 2014, 10:11:45 PM
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just reposting this coz i gotta go. should try and keep it up the top imo and be around to answer any questions/de-fud.

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July 08, 2014, 10:12:03 PM
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would not collecting transaction fees be = to mining Bitcoin as far as taxes are concerned.  
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July 08, 2014, 10:12:47 PM
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Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!

I just noted why Bitcoin is not sufficient for tasks of 'good' people? You can every time create new address for new payment and be quite an anonymous person.

What brand new does X11coin offer?
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July 08, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
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THIS IS STATED ABOUT THE CURRENT DISCUSSED TOPIC!

It is abundantly clear that the blockchain opens up an entirely new realm of benefits and risks. It is a radical game-changer.

But while the power of blockchain-based technology is immense, and while there are clear use-cases for it that are unethical, this does not amount to any kind of warrant for the alternative: vast data mining of personal information, internet architecture not optimised to protect individual liberty and privacy, and the opportunity for any party sufficiently powerful to abuse human rights to get its way.

To cast blockchain technologies as unethical due to the risks is therefore unwarranted because the alternatives are not more ethical. It's also to refuse to play a game that, henceforth, the world simply has no option but to play. Blockchains are here, and there's no making them go away.

So onward is the only option presented to the world. As such, XC is committed to the ethical use of its technology. Just as legal systems and taxation are "technologies" that regulate the old systems, completely new technologies, conceived along radically different political lines, will be required to allow humanity to thrive in a blockchain-based world. This is the irresistible future, and XC will co-create it with the highest and most optimistic of expectations.
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July 08, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
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Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!

I just noted why Bitcoin is not sufficient for tasks of 'good' people? You can every time create new address for new payment and be quite an anonymous person.

What brand new does X11coin offer?


but you can still track that address to an IP and........ poof.
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July 08, 2014, 10:18:00 PM
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Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!

I just noted why Bitcoin is not sufficient for tasks of 'good' people? You can every time create new address for new payment and be quite an anonymous person.

What brand new does X11coin offer?


Fine it doesnt now go away and chase your people who owe $30 in taxes.

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July 08, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
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So, IRS can track, but not DEA?  hmm.

DEA can too. I just not from DEA. It was a metaphor...

I wanna focus you why Bitcoin itself is not sufficient? What brand new feature of X11coin? Decentralized mixer? It is like an one-eyed person , not an anonymous one.
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