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July 08, 2014, 10:07:54 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail )) Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service. Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient? So, IRS can track, but not DEA? hmm.
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July 08, 2014, 10:11:45 PM |
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just reposting this coz i gotta go. should try and keep it up the top imo and be around to answer any questions/de-fud.
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July 08, 2014, 10:12:03 PM |
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would not collecting transaction fees be = to mining Bitcoin as far as taxes are concerned.
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July 08, 2014, 10:12:47 PM |
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Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!
I just noted why Bitcoin is not sufficient for tasks of 'good' people? You can every time create new address for new payment and be quite an anonymous person. What brand new does X11coin offer?
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July 08, 2014, 10:16:24 PM |
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THIS IS STATED ABOUT THE CURRENT DISCUSSED TOPIC!
It is abundantly clear that the blockchain opens up an entirely new realm of benefits and risks. It is a radical game-changer.
But while the power of blockchain-based technology is immense, and while there are clear use-cases for it that are unethical, this does not amount to any kind of warrant for the alternative: vast data mining of personal information, internet architecture not optimised to protect individual liberty and privacy, and the opportunity for any party sufficiently powerful to abuse human rights to get its way.
To cast blockchain technologies as unethical due to the risks is therefore unwarranted because the alternatives are not more ethical. It's also to refuse to play a game that, henceforth, the world simply has no option but to play. Blockchains are here, and there's no making them go away.
So onward is the only option presented to the world. As such, XC is committed to the ethical use of its technology. Just as legal systems and taxation are "technologies" that regulate the old systems, completely new technologies, conceived along radically different political lines, will be required to allow humanity to thrive in a blockchain-based world. This is the irresistible future, and XC will co-create it with the highest and most optimistic of expectations.
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July 08, 2014, 10:17:38 PM |
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Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!
I just noted why Bitcoin is not sufficient for tasks of 'good' people? You can every time create new address for new payment and be quite an anonymous person. What brand new does X11coin offer? but you can still track that address to an IP and........ poof.
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July 08, 2014, 10:18:00 PM |
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Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!
I just noted why Bitcoin is not sufficient for tasks of 'good' people? You can every time create new address for new payment and be quite an anonymous person. What brand new does X11coin offer? Fine it doesnt now go away and chase your people who owe $30 in taxes.
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July 08, 2014, 10:18:35 PM |
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So, IRS can track, but not DEA? hmm.
DEA can too. I just not from DEA. It was a metaphor... I wanna focus you why Bitcoin itself is not sufficient? What brand new feature of X11coin? Decentralized mixer? It is like an one-eyed person , not an anonymous one.
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July 08, 2014, 10:30:30 PM |
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So, IRS can track, but not DEA? hmm.
DEA can too. I just not from DEA. It was a metaphor... I wanna focus you why Bitcoin itself is not sufficient? What brand new feature of X11coin? Decentralized mixer? It is like an one-eyed person , not an anonymous one. Stop the fud idiot and go buy some monero!
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July 08, 2014, 10:34:31 PM |
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So, IRS can track, but not DEA? hmm.
DEA can too. I just not from DEA. It was a metaphor... I wanna focus you why Bitcoin itself is not sufficient? What brand new feature of X11coin? Decentralized mixer? It is like an one-eyed person , not an anonymous one. you're grasping at straws here and doing a terrible job. I dont even think I will waste my time responding to you with an in depth description. If you dont understand what XC has done, you're either a plain moron or someone coming to create FUD. I think its the latter.
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July 08, 2014, 10:35:10 PM |
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July 08, 2014, 10:35:15 PM |
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So, IRS can track, but not DEA? hmm.
DEA can too. I just not from DEA. It was a metaphor... I wanna focus you why Bitcoin itself is not sufficient? What brand new feature of X11coin? Decentralized mixer? It is like an one-eyed person , not an anonymous one. Stop the fud idiot and go buy some monero! Dear newbie, learn X11 manuals first. The main brand new feature of X11 coin is NOT anonymity, but Android/iOS wallet THAT CAN STAKE coins just inside a gadget! It is not just a PoS, it is real REVOLUTION!
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July 08, 2014, 10:35:29 PM |
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I think it would be good against bloating of this thread(pun intended) if everybody who has basic questions about blockchain technology and the various methods that are being developed for anonimous cryptotechnologies read up on those subjects before posting here. Sometimes it's difficult to discern honest ignorance from fud. thx!
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July 08, 2014, 10:36:58 PM |
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I think it would be good against bloating of this thread(pun intended) if everybody who has basic questions about blockchain technology and the various methods that are being developed for anonimous cryptotechnologies read up on those subjects before posting here. Sometimes it's difficult to decern honest ignorance from fud. thx!
It's clear that btell is a XMR troll here to fud. He was fudding all night last night during the flash crash. FFS... he's still call XC the X11coin. Do you think he really cares about XC?
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July 08, 2014, 10:42:00 PM |
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It's clear that btell is a XMR troll here to fud. He was fudding all night last night during the flash crash. FFS... he's still call XC the X11coin. Do you think he really cares about XC?
I bought some XC, not large amount, but not tiny. So I have real interest in XC now. Sorry for X11 coin. I am somewhat old-fashioned... Do you agree that Android/iOS wallet that can stake inside a mobile device is revolution, because explodes number of XC adopters?
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July 08, 2014, 10:42:20 PM |
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Notice the way the website design matches the look of the video.
That's the kind of branding you get when you have real professionals on board.
the web site is shitty, it do look AWESOME though. click FUNDAMENTALS then try to click HOW-TO without everything jump all over the places. professional site wouldn't make this so confused. my suggestion moves those drop-down to the right and keeping FUNDAMENTALS and HOW-TO etc.. in places. it don't need to move up and down, jumping all over the places. also if there is no wallet for linux or MAC, yet, just say coming soon instead of redirect to main page as people would think there computer messed up. http://forum.xctalk.com have no logo, http://xctalk.com is still a godaddy and http://xc-official.com is broken. i take these kind of small things seriously as it would only take less then 5 minutes to fix all these. you wouldn't want to put your hard earn money into some kids playground which should take about 5 minutes to fix but too lazy to do it. I think I know your type... Just like the one not happy with the background in the video... If I gave you a bag of gold, you would say it was too heavy... If you work up or come in from the side on the website menu it works fine, and I'm sure they are working on the making this one minor issue better. On a seperate note, you are more than welcome to become part of the solution and make a donation to the marketing/promotions fund to help move this project forward.
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July 08, 2014, 10:43:43 PM |
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I just woke up from last nights firefight. I was there with financial support, and support for the Development team, but it really felt like some members were running out their foxholes a little prematurely.
Bitcad4u... I am the Houdini of Cryptos. I always know when to pull the plug. XC is young child with endless possibilities... not an old geezer on life support. I respect your decision, but next time if you feel the urge to pull out... please don't lob a grenade into the trench. Just head for the treeline and keep your head down until the dust settles. Dan and the other members of the development team have earned a little leeway.
synechist... you are one classy individual. Absolutely love having you here!
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July 08, 2014, 10:47:06 PM |
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I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks! Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links? Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin? P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache. You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves. Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes. u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man. Ask Wesley Snipes about not paying taxes. Or Al Capone for that matter
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July 08, 2014, 11:03:13 PM |
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As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail )) Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service. Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient?
I don't think anyone is advocating not paying taxes or hiding stuff from the taxman. The problem with Bitcoin is that if someone knows your address then they can see an awful lot about your financial situation. A lot of people don't want their finances to be that open to (potentially) anyone, but that doesn't mean they want to avoid legitimate taxation. So Bitcoin is good, but it's potentially a bit too open for a lot of people. XC is a coin that can deal with this. And it may be the best one, we can't say for sure yet as there is alot going on in this space, but a lot of things about it and the team deserve IMHO serious consideration,.
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July 08, 2014, 11:07:35 PM |
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As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail )) Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service. Where I misunderstood? Why Bitcoin is not sufficient?
I don't think anyone is advocating not paying taxes or hiding stuff from the taxman. The problem with Bitcoin is that if someone knows your address then they can see an awful lot about your financial situation. A lot of people don't want their finances to be that open to (potentially) anyone, but that doesn't mean they want to avoid legitimate taxation. So Bitcoin is good, but it's potentially a bit too open for a lot of people. Thank you , for you put it in normal words for people to understand ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Plus I just get a little pissed when people think that folks in cryptos are only in it to do ill deeds. To me that is a personal attack on my character, I dont take such things lightly. Ive tried to live a honest life for the most part, with a few bumps in the road, but over all like to think of myself as a good person.... and crap like that comes up.
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