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July 28, 2014, 09:49:38 PM
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Now this makes the devs start sounding like a management team with a product that is virtually given away for free.

That's so much like the early Internet. True fact: Lord Black - Conrad M. Black - was given the opportunity to buy a venture capitalist sized stake of Netscape. He was actually approached by the Netscape team, perhaps by Marc Andreessen himself. (I can't remember if that last bit was so.) His stake would have bee pre-IPO, so he had right in front of his hands the chance to pre-participate in arguably the hottest NASDAQ IPO of 1995. I think he had his opportunity to buy a stake in 1994.

Conrad Black, then still Mr. Black, turned them down flat.

You know why? For a reason that's both quaint and, in its way, common-sensical. He didn't believe a company that gave away its flagship product would ever turn a profit!

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July 30, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
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What I would like to see from a leading exchange like yours is to implement some proof of dev.

- How hard would it be to get the leading dev of interesting coins to chat with one of you in a video call explaining what his coin is, what he intends to do and what not.  

I am sure some of them will still be scam, as a competent person can fool you into accepting his coin but after he fooled the community once, this guy will be barred from your exchange forever with his photo published and what not.,. For their next scam they will need an other competent dev to give the speech and answer your technical guy. A method like this is a bit intrusive but for the sake of crypto, I believe this is almost mandatory at this point.

Bittrex is hurting more than helping the community at this point with all the scams. This is unbelievable how much money has been stolen past few weeks with all this stuff. What might happen at this point is people are going to avoid your site and go back to mintpal and invest in established new coins.

I personally was trading quite a bit 3 weeks ago and barely bought any coins on your exchange since then, and intend to do so until this situation is resolved.

Investing in the dev > investing in a coin right now.

@Bittrex-Bill
Proof of Dev? Seriously, you mean all I need is a cool online name, a few BTC, and I can get my coin listed? No wonder the industry has a trust problem....

Think SRO (Self Regulatory Organization), like a stock exchange. People have faith in the stocks because they are on the exchanges. Exchanges have customers because they do their homework before listing a stock. They are not perfect, but the fact they look into companies first deters the unscrupulous.

As an exchange, It is all about trading volume, and that means trading the hottest coins. But paid listings are worrisome.
It begs the question, Who are your most important customers? Those with coins to list? Or, the people that trust you with their coins (Read: Money)? (No good or bad here, it is just a business model thing. But being a customer I prefer the latter)

Why? Because more and more alts have Market Caps approaching the 10's of millions range or higher. This is Real Money. The Mt.Gox collapse was the wake up call. Hey, Real $$! Then Poloniex suffered a loss at their own fault. Now say what you want, but Poloniex recovered and made everyone whole. Like the exchange or not, they have earned a measure of respect. As a result, there is a growing faith that each exchange is not a fraud, but soon they will demand a measure of protection from / by the exchange from coin fraud.

Now with the recent rash of new scam coins should drive this next evolutionary phase. Due Diligence. Some sort of due diligence is needed and or will soon be demanded by traders and investors. Bryce Weiner (think what you want) he has his coins. Will they work? IDK, but when I buy/invest in one, I have some knowledge of what I am getting into and reason to believe it isn't a scam. That doesn't mean it will work, but it seems like the guy is trying.

A clearly defined 'industry standard' set of criteria needs to be (read: will eventually be) developed. Something much more significant than measuring the shouting on social media. It is like a random pat down for people waiting at the gate of a sporting event. Will it keep bad people out, NO. But the simple tactic is enough to make casual evildoer step out of line.

The future of the industry is straight forward. Exchanges that continue listing anything for anyone will lose respect, volume, and desirability.
Exchanges that are serious have no choice than to start regulating themselves. If they don't, the alt industry will suffer significantly. Bottom line, Integrity and Intent count.  (It is also expensive!)

And that sets up the next stage.
Ultimately fragmented industries consolidate. It simple economics; things like economies of scale and shared resources are powerful at the bottom line.

So, anyone hear of any merger talk lately? Uncomfortable with that idea? It doesn't matter. The mergers are coming. And as fast as this industry evolves... I think the first one happens soon, like in the next 3 - 9 months.

You can make it happen,
You can watch it happen,  or
You can sit there and wonder WTF Just happened....  (Capt. Phil Harris)

My complete guess (based on Geography) >> Bittrex & Cryptsy.
Trex has a bit more volume which should go well with Cryptsy's newly (Licensed) Dollar markets. Every US Dollar Cryptsy adds to their accounts increases their desirability. 
Then the US Alt Trading Powerhouse will be ready to go international (read: MintPal) but that bring a lot of expensive legal requirements.
I see Polo gathering up the best of the rest while the high-school project sites fold due to lack of interest. Being in 3rd place (US) maybe Polo should try and get the ball rolling first.


I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said The issue is within this game people don't want there to be regulations and they don't want to be accountable its the guise of(anonymity and the lack of consequences that has been the way things have been operated thus far in all things crypto); that being said they're trying to hide behind new pseudonyms and scam coins. If these exchanges had any care for due diligence they may be able to catch some of the scams but at the same time there is no real way to tell whether a coin is going to be a scam or not because i could make the most legit looking coin and not have a crazy high market cap for it and then just poof vanish. There would need to be some kind of regulations put in place that would hold people accountable and those types of regulations are what will push people away from crypto as it would take the level of anonymity out of it. Now with what you said when those things come about crypto will be more stable and trustworthy but much less anonymous hopefully theres not too much of a mess before the dust settles.
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July 30, 2014, 05:32:41 PM
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I have gotten a reply about what happened to digital commerce from one of the developers and i asked them to come here and speak up about it. Please do not delist Digital Commerce.

Digital commerce is live on Bittrex
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July 30, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
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I have gotten a reply about what happened to digital commerce from one of the developers and i asked them to come here and speak up about it. Please do not delist Digital Commerce.

Digital commerce is live on Bittrex
"This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest."

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August 01, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
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What I would like to see from a leading exchange like yours is to implement some proof of dev.

- How hard would it be to get the leading dev of interesting coins to chat with one of you in a video call explaining what his coin is, what he intends to do and what not.  

I am sure some of them will still be scam, as a competent person can fool you into accepting his coin but after he fooled the community once, this guy will be barred from your exchange forever with his photo published and what not.,. For their next scam they will need an other competent dev to give the speech and answer your technical guy. A method like this is a bit intrusive but for the sake of crypto, I believe this is almost mandatory at this point.

Bittrex is hurting more than helping the community at this point with all the scams. This is unbelievable how much money has been stolen past few weeks with all this stuff. What might happen at this point is people are going to avoid your site and go back to mintpal and invest in established new coins.

I personally was trading quite a bit 3 weeks ago and barely bought any coins on your exchange since then, and intend to do so until this situation is resolved.

Investing in the dev > investing in a coin right now.

@Bittrex-Bill
Proof of Dev? Seriously, you mean all I need is a cool online name, a few BTC, and I can get my coin listed? No wonder the industry has a trust problem....

Think SRO (Self Regulatory Organization), like a stock exchange. People have faith in the stocks because they are on the exchanges. Exchanges have customers because they do their homework before listing a stock. They are not perfect, but the fact they look into companies first deters the unscrupulous.

As an exchange, It is all about trading volume, and that means trading the hottest coins. But paid listings are worrisome.
It begs the question, Who are your most important customers? Those with coins to list? Or, the people that trust you with their coins (Read: Money)? (No good or bad here, it is just a business model thing. But being a customer I prefer the latter)

Why? Because more and more alts have Market Caps approaching the 10's of millions range or higher. This is Real Money. The Mt.Gox collapse was the wake up call. Hey, Real $$! Then Poloniex suffered a loss at their own fault. Now say what you want, but Poloniex recovered and made everyone whole. Like the exchange or not, they have earned a measure of respect. As a result, there is a growing faith that each exchange is not a fraud, but soon they will demand a measure of protection from / by the exchange from coin fraud.

Now with the recent rash of new scam coins should drive this next evolutionary phase. Due Diligence. Some sort of due diligence is needed and or will soon be demanded by traders and investors. Bryce Weiner (think what you want) he has his coins. Will they work? IDK, but when I buy/invest in one, I have some knowledge of what I am getting into and reason to believe it isn't a scam. That doesn't mean it will work, but it seems like the guy is trying.

A clearly defined 'industry standard' set of criteria needs to be (read: will eventually be) developed. Something much more significant than measuring the shouting on social media. It is like a random pat down for people waiting at the gate of a sporting event. Will it keep bad people out, NO. But the simple tactic is enough to make casual evildoer step out of line.

The future of the industry is straight forward. Exchanges that continue listing anything for anyone will lose respect, volume, and desirability.
Exchanges that are serious have no choice than to start regulating themselves. If they don't, the alt industry will suffer significantly. Bottom line, Integrity and Intent count.  (It is also expensive!)

And that sets up the next stage.
Ultimately fragmented industries consolidate. It simple economics; things like economies of scale and shared resources are powerful at the bottom line.

So, anyone hear of any merger talk lately? Uncomfortable with that idea? It doesn't matter. The mergers are coming. And as fast as this industry evolves... I think the first one happens soon, like in the next 3 - 9 months.

You can make it happen,
You can watch it happen,  or
You can sit there and wonder WTF Just happened....  (Capt. Phil Harris)

My complete guess (based on Geography) >> Bittrex & Cryptsy.
Trex has a bit more volume which should go well with Cryptsy's newly (Licensed) Dollar markets. Every US Dollar Cryptsy adds to their accounts increases their desirability. 
Then the US Alt Trading Powerhouse will be ready to go international (read: MintPal) but that bring a lot of expensive legal requirements.
I see Polo gathering up the best of the rest while the high-school project sites fold due to lack of interest. Being in 3rd place (US) maybe Polo should try and get the ball rolling first.


I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said The issue is within this game people don't want there to be regulations and they don't want to be accountable its the guise of(anonymity and the lack of consequences that has been the way things have been operated thus far in all things crypto); that being said they're trying to hide behind new pseudonyms and scam coins. If these exchanges had any care for due diligence they may be able to catch some of the scams but at the same time there is no real way to tell whether a coin is going to be a scam or not because i could make the most legit looking coin and not have a crazy high market cap for it and then just poof vanish. There would need to be some kind of regulations put in place that would hold people accountable and those types of regulations are what will push people away from crypto as it would take the level of anonymity out of it. Now with what you said when those things come about crypto will be more stable and trustworthy but much less anonymous hopefully theres not too much of a mess before the dust settles.

The point: Exchanges must devise some regulations for Coin Developers, to protect their primary customers, and people that want to use said coins, from scams.
If they do not, then it won't be long before their customers (read: People holding accounts at exchanges) will realize the coin devs are the main customers and that would seal the fate of the Alt Coin market.
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August 01, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
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Just a heads-up: Quebecoin is waking up, both volume-wise and price-wise:

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-QBC

Kind-of incongruous to see "This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest" on the top of the list page when the 24h vol. has ranged more-or-less between 0.3 and 0.4 BTC for the last couple of days.






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August 01, 2014, 11:02:25 PM
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Boycott Bittrex.

They are just contributing to the collapse of the scene and are actively inviting government regulation and the downfall of the entire cryptosphere by willfully failing to police themselves.

Don't be tempted to buy the "Spotlight Coin of the Week." (aka "paid advertisement placing")

Its all pay-for-play "payola": hidden, reciprocal financial arrangements between Bittrex and crapcoin devs to get their coins listed.

Bittrex will be the death of their own selves before too long. Just don't let it be your BTC that disappears when it happens.

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August 01, 2014, 11:50:22 PM
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Seeing that SolarCoin has easily met your challenge of 0.1 average daily volume for a week, how's about you take us off the hit list for longer than two weeks???   Grin Cool Grin

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August 02, 2014, 07:26:15 AM
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Please don't remove Muniti. They are launching door to door on June 5th and there could be big developments soon. Give them a little more time at least, please.

yes, I agree with you, we should give one more change to every coin..

Right, a lot of people have been insist, looks good.
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August 02, 2014, 10:17:12 AM
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Seeing that SolarCoin has easily met your challenge of 0.1 average daily volume for a week, how's about you take us off the hit list for longer than two weeks???   Grin Cool Grin

Yes, after we met your volume limit please remove from your hit list.
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August 02, 2014, 01:32:10 PM
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I have gotten a reply about what happened to digital commerce from one of the developers and i asked them to come here and speak up about it. Please do not delist Digital Commerce.

Digital commerce is live on Bittrex
"This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest."



With a warning notice like that over the trading box I am not surprised there is a "lack of user interest".Well my coins will sit on Bittrex because I don't have a link to a working wallet.I have messaged the devs and got no response so unless a working link to a fully compiled wallet is made available then Bittrex can look after my coins.I bought my coins there from the IPO.
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August 02, 2014, 01:47:59 PM
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heres how to solve the scam problem.

chances are its the same scammers for the most part.

prior to listing a coin conduct a 15 meeting 'face to face' video confering session with the dev.

heck he doesnt even have to use his real name so his 'anonymity' can be maintained.

this means a person gets one chance to defraud the public and then no more.

ask pertinent questions about the coin that only the 'dev' would know.

scams are reduced by 90% immediately and your 'free market' is preserved.

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heres how to solve the scam problem.

chances are its the same scammers for the most part.

prior to listing a coin conduct a 15 meeting 'face to face' video confering session with the dev.

heck he doesnt even have to use his real name so his 'anonymity' can be maintained.



+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

If they are too chicken shit to do a face to face then their coin should not be listed!!!!!!!!!!!
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August 02, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
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heres how to solve the scam problem.

chances are its the same scammers for the most part.

prior to listing a coin conduct a 15 meeting 'face to face' video confering session with the dev.

heck he doesnt even have to use his real name so his 'anonymity' can be maintained.



+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

If they are too chicken shit to do a face to face then their coin should not be listed!!!!!!!!!!!

Well - if bittrex bill had done that with me - after taking over GraniteCoin a few days ago - he would have seen that Im a legitimate person with a legitimate reason as to why I could not do much at all in the 4 days I was given to 'increase trade volume' ...

Maybe then he would have given me more time? ... I think not! ...

As it stands - no matter what happens in the way of verification - its about MONEY ... if the market is not doing so well - an extension is given - then possibly another ... the coin is taken over by me and NO extension is given - even though the last few days showed that trade volume rose by more than 8 times to around .18btc (and not just .1btc that bittrex bill requested) ...

As much as I think its a great idea to to verify - it wont work with a strict and unforboding bunch of rules like that ...

Besides - Im not the dev - still looking for a good dev for the redevelopment of the coin ... I just took over ownership of GraniteCoin Wink

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August 02, 2014, 11:28:48 PM
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I have gotten a reply about what happened to digital commerce from one of the developers and i asked them to come here and speak up about it. Please do not delist Digital Commerce.

Digital commerce is live on Bittrex
"This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest."



With a warning notice like that over the trading box I am not surprised there is a "lack of user interest".Well my coins will sit on Bittrex because I don't have a link to a working wallet.I have messaged the devs and got no response so unless a working link to a fully compiled wallet is made available then Bittrex can look after my coins.I bought my coins there from the IPO.
I dont really know of any way to prove to you that its not tampered with, but this is the executable thats in my dcom folder. Hell if i knew anything about programming i would try to do a community takeover of it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bdus007am89p6o8/dCom-qt-1.02.exe

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August 03, 2014, 01:48:49 AM
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Boycott Bittrex.

They are just contributing to the collapse of the scene and are actively inviting government regulation and the downfall of the entire cryptosphere by willfully failing to police themselves.

Don't be tempted to buy the "Spotlight Coin of the Week." (aka "paid advertisement placing")

Its all pay-for-play "payola": hidden, reciprocal financial arrangements between Bittrex and crapcoin devs to get their coins listed.

Bittrex will be the death of their own selves before too long. Just don't let it be your BTC that disappears when it happens.


 This is really funny coming from a TROLL   

I guess you don't mind it if I post the private messages you've been sending me then and then all can see what a troll you are.
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August 03, 2014, 02:00:09 AM
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Bittrex just adds coins with high interest by people for volume and delist ones that fall out of favor and have little or no volume. It's what they should do. Why keep dead weight?

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August 03, 2014, 05:07:56 AM
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Boycott Bittrex.

They are just contributing to the collapse of the scene and are actively inviting government regulation and the downfall of the entire cryptosphere by willfully failing to police themselves.

Don't be tempted to buy the "Spotlight Coin of the Week." (aka "paid advertisement placing")

Its all pay-for-play "payola": hidden, reciprocal financial arrangements between Bittrex and crapcoin devs to get their coins listed.

Bittrex will be the death of their own selves before too long. Just don't let it be your BTC that disappears when it happens.

 This is really funny coming from a TROLL   

I guess you don't mind it if I post the private messages you've been sending me then and then all can see what a troll you are.

Wow, you went right off the deep end. Pretty original stuff, your comments (that you posted in 12 different threads I commented on -- who is the troll again?):

I guess you don't mind it if I post the private messages you've been sending me then.

You physically threatened me over a coin that didn't even budge in price, despite your assertions that I was "costing you money." Anything someone says after you threaten them, you had it coming. These people don't care about our squabble btw.

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August 03, 2014, 01:27:44 PM
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I have gotten a reply about what happened to digital commerce from one of the developers and i asked them to come here and speak up about it. Please do not delist Digital Commerce.

Digital commerce is live on Bittrex
"This market is in danger of de-listing due to low trade volume and lack of user interest."



With a warning notice like that over the trading box I am not surprised there is a "lack of user interest".Well my coins will sit on Bittrex because I don't have a link to a working wallet.I have messaged the devs and got no response so unless a working link to a fully compiled wallet is made available then Bittrex can look after my coins.I bought my coins there from the IPO.
I dont really know of any way to prove to you that its not tampered with, but this is the executable thats in my dcom folder. Hell if i knew anything about programming i would try to do a community takeover of it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bdus007am89p6o8/dCom-qt-1.02.exe

Thanks CommanderVenus...the reality is that we should not have to be thinking about taking over this coin.IPO funds were raised for this coins development and to sustain its value.IPO funds cannot be missappropriated for other uses.The coin was represented in the OP for IPO purchasers with goals and plans and sold to buyers under this presentation.Any member of the "team" who has neglected/abandoned their responsibilities would be required by law to return those IPO funds to either the community or new development team.

It is NOT our responsibility as investors to takeover this coin.It is the responsibility of those who presented their plan to either execute it to an acceptable level of progressive sustainability or resign their position and return witheld funds less accountable approved spending to the entity.

This coins status has not been confirmed by the current "team" however their silence has caused considerable levels of distress among investors who have through such a lack of sufficient communication either sold their holdings at a "catastrophic" loss or still hold in negative equity and the responsibility for this situation lies solely with this "team" and their actions/inactions.
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August 03, 2014, 01:47:23 PM
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it appears to me that the 'inactive market' warning is never updated no matter what the volume is.


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