[ANN][VOOT] OLD THREAD

[MsCollec]

Also... in this scenario...

Can you imagine in the real world stock exchange?

One of the developers of the Google search engine have a friend that knows of a friend that has health issue.   GOOG stock drops 40% before the delay was announced.  News at 11.

How many insider trading investigation would have started?

People panic sell all the time and I have zero vootcoin. All my funds are on the anon exchange development.

I completely understand why some people would exit voot. We were promised a release date which hasn't been met, because of a single point failure. Is it not at least possible that we get an ETA?

I rather they don't give a new ETA until they are absolutely sure that they can meet that date.

I also don't get why they can't rent a replacement for a few days, then the problem would probably have been fixed.

You have to understand that the person is already familiar with the code.

[PauloLauro]

I'm starting to doubt the success of Voot project, with such disastrous workflow developers, a release VootCloud or VootMarket will never complete.
If you can not have a even for limited time finished product AnonExchange....

Professional Advice - Do you have a finished product, then just set the release date.

[armaan56]

I'm starting to doubt the success of Voot project, with such disastrous workflow developers, a release VootCloud or VootMarket will never complete.
If you can not have a even for limited time finished product AnonExchange....

Professional Advice - Do you have a finished product, then just set the release date.

Did you see VootCoin at the start? If not, your confusion is understandable. If you did, don't know what your problem is

[pissmusic]

bunch of babies getting mad tonight because they didnt get rich today

relax and let the devs do their thing, fighting with them over if someone really had health issues isnt going to help. take a chill pill

[SMOKEPROJECT]

The reason why there is no one to be put in place is because we do not want others to look at the source code or handle it any capacity and the team is based on TRUST. How would the news be if source code was leaked and someone else picked it up? That would be 100x worse than a delay. If the code is not protected the community and the coin is not protected.

[jeffersonairplane]

The reason why there is no one to be put in place is because we do not want others to look at the source code or handle it any capacity and the team is based on TRUST. How would the news be if source code was leaked and someone else picked it up? That would be 100x worse than a delay. If the code is not protected the community and the coin is not protected.

Valid points 

[PauloLauro]

I'm starting to doubt the success of Voot project, with such disastrous workflow developers, a release VootCloud or VootMarket will never complete.
If you can not have a even for limited time finished product AnonExchange....

Professional Advice - Do you have a finished product, then just set the release date.

Did you see VootCoin at the start? If not, your confusion is understandable. If you did, don't know what your problem is

Reliably when such situations occur as today. Cheating starts and tortuous excuses, when execution capabilities beyond developers.

[armaan56]

I'm starting to doubt the success of Voot project, with such disastrous workflow developers, a release VootCloud or VootMarket will never complete.
If you can not have a even for limited time finished product AnonExchange....

Professional Advice - Do you have a finished product, then just set the release date.

Did you see VootCoin at the start? If not, your confusion is understandable. If you did, don't know what your problem is

Reliably when such situations occur as today. Cheating starts and tortuous excuses, when execution capabilities beyond developers.

They are far from the worst developers. Waaaay far from even being put into that category. Patience is key, if you don't have it. Don't expect to survive in crypto

[fox19891989]

Let's see a positive thing, the first btc38 voting champion MED was listed on btc38 on 3rd of July(Thursday), the second round voting champion EAC was listed on btc38 on 3rd of July(Friday). The third voting champion will be VOOT and will it listed on btc38 next Thursday or Friday? We will have larger market soon.

PS: btc38 is the largest Chinese alt-coin exchange, better than bter

[CryptoGretzky]

The reason why there is no one to be put in place is because we do not want others to look at the source code or handle it any capacity and the team is based on TRUST. How would the news be if source code was leaked and someone else picked it up? That would be 100x worse than a delay. If the code is not protected the community and the coin is not protected.

1. The release was supposed to be today, so there can't be more than a day or at most two days of work left?

2. So, is the delay now just to wait for the dev to be emotionally ok to continue to finish it?  

3. IF there is more than a day or two of work left, the delay would have been known since last night then and why wasn't this delay possibility told to MsCollec?

[PauloLauro]

I'm starting to doubt the success of Voot project, with such disastrous workflow developers, a release VootCloud or VootMarket will never complete.
If you can not have a even for limited time finished product AnonExchange....

Professional Advice - Do you have a finished product, then just set the release date.

Did you see VootCoin at the start? If not, your confusion is understandable. If you did, don't know what your problem is

Reliably when such situations occur as today. Cheating starts and tortuous excuses, when execution capabilities beyond developers.

They are far from the worst developers. Waaaay far from even being put into that category. Patience is key, if you don't have it. Don't expect to survive in crypto

ok, could give even the date of publication AnonExchange for month later or... and then there is no problem.

Term, it is very important! you could end up before but not later.

[SMOKEPROJECT]

I'm starting to doubt the success of Voot project, with such disastrous workflow developers, a release VootCloud or VootMarket will never complete.
If you can not have a even for limited time finished product AnonExchange....

Professional Advice - Do you have a finished product, then just set the release date.

Did you see VootCoin at the start? If not, your confusion is understandable. If you did, don't know what your problem is

Reliably when such situations occur as today. Cheating starts and tortuous excuses, when execution capabilities beyond developers.

We released TOR integration 3 days early you cannot bring execution capability into the dimension when we already have a track record for solid work that we have delivered. If we show flexibility for you it's only fair you show the same sort of flexibility. Where is the cheating that you speak of?

[PauloLauro]

With the information that someone is sick does not wait until the last minute, when the product is be released.
Has such knowledge informs the community before.

[Bitcycle]

I'm starting to doubt the success of Voot project, with such disastrous workflow developers, a release VootCloud or VootMarket will never complete.
If you can not have a even for limited time finished product AnonExchange....

Professional Advice - Do you have a finished product, then just set the release date.

Did you see VootCoin at the start? If not, your confusion is understandable. If you did, don't know what your problem is

Reliably when such situations occur as today. Cheating starts and tortuous excuses, when execution capabilities beyond developers.

We released TOR integration 3 days early you cannot bring execution capability into the dimension when we already have a track record for solid work that we have delivered. If we show flexibility for you it's only fair you show the same sort of flexibility. Where is the cheating that you speak of?

Unfortunately, missing a deadline with no warning does more damage to your reputation than delivering on schedule a few times improves it.

This is why you want to provide warning at the soonest moment you see you might miss it.  It's to *your* benefit to do so.

If you miss a deadline by surprise, no matter what you say, many will see it as excuses.  It's not necessarily fair, but it's how it is.

Again, it's to *your* benefit to provide early warning.

[cryptoholic11]

Unfortunately, missing a deadline with no warning does more damage to your reputation than delivering on schedule a few times.  

This is why you want to provide warning at the soonest moment you see you might miss it.  It's to *your* benefit to do so.

If you miss a deadline by surprise, no matter what you say, many will see it as excuses.  It's not necessarily fair, but it's how it is.

Again, it's to *your* benefit to provide early warning.

Agreed. And according to the charts there were well over 2m coins dumped from 1800 to 1300 (or in that range) well before the delay was announced. That's what is fishy to many people including myself. Hard not to call insider trading.
And I am a believer in this team and believe MsCollec as a very good dev, but this situation couldve been handled better. If a team member got sick, notify the community beforehand, unless he/she literally got sick an hour before everything was about to be finished and released, which still sounds iffy. In any case hope he/she feels better.  

[CryptoGretzky]

The reason why there is no one to be put in place is because we do not want others to look at the source code or handle it any capacity and the team is based on TRUST. How would the news be if source code was leaked and someone else picked it up? That would be 100x worse than a delay. If the code is not protected the community and the coin is not protected.

1. The release was supposed to be today, so there can't be more than a day or at most two days of work left?

2. So, is the delay now just to wait for the dev to be emotionally ok to continue to finish it?  

3. IF there is more than a day or two of work left, the delay would have been known since last night then and why wasn't this delay possibility told to MsCollec?

Think you missed my post and went onto answer some lesser specific questions.

[smackii]

Delay is okay, keeping quiet is okay.

What we are mad about is:

Dump before delay, not delay before dump

[fox19891989]

Delay is okay, keeping quiet is okay.

What we are mad about is:

Dump before delay, not delay before dump

dump may be caused by impatient guys

[Coin-Moron]

Delay is okay, keeping quiet is okay.

What we are mad about is:

Dump before delay, not delay before dump

dump maybe caused by impatient guys

Why should one be impatient before the Anon Exchange Announcement time?

[smackii]

Delay is okay, keeping quiet is okay.

What we are mad about is:

Dump before delay, not delay before dump

dump maybe caused by impatient guys

Why should one be impatient before the Anon Exchange Announcement time?

Maybe because someone who has a friend is sick and needs quick cash so he dumps his stash.