NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[nzminer]

... I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them ....

I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. ...

Because when everyone else was laughing at NEM, we stood by.

Everyone had a chance to become an original stake holder, some even got in for free.

Besides those funds were voted on by the community at the time and everyone agreed to hold on to them in a community fund. We all threw BTC at NEM with the intention of having the original funds shared amongst the original investors, this is not a charity.

Now what each individual original stake holder decides to do with their share, is completely up to them.

Also, just because they are not vocal in the closed community that is BTCtalk does not mean those original stakeholders do not exist. Many of them just left it as a forgotten investment and are waiting news from the members who acted as their representatives on NEM ICO.

Yep. Well said, LemonAndFriesOne. I am one of the original stakeholders and I am still here. Waiting patiently. Watching NEM grows and following the news regularly. Since day 1. Do you realize how long ago that was? I'm here for long-term investments. Please, do not disregard the stakeholders that truly believe in NEM and have supported all these years.

Same here, I was here from day one, I bought my stake on the NXT asset exchange when they were listed. Boy it seems just like yesterday! lol

[instacalm]

... I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them ....

I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. ...

Because when everyone else was laughing at NEM, we stood by.

Everyone had a chance to become an original stake holder, some even got in for free.

Besides those funds were voted on by the community at the time and everyone agreed to hold on to them in a community fund. We all threw BTC at NEM with the intention of having the original funds shared amongst the original investors, this is not a charity.

Now what each individual original stake holder decides to do with their share, is completely up to them.

Also, just because they are not vocal in the closed community that is BTCtalk does not mean those original stakeholders do not exist. Many of them just left it as a forgotten investment and are waiting news from the members who acted as their representatives on NEM ICO.

Yep. Well said, LemonAndFriesOne. I am one of the original stakeholders and I am still here. Waiting patiently. Watching NEM grows and following the news regularly. Since day 1. Do you realize how long ago that was? I'm here for long-term investments. Please, do not disregard the stakeholders that truly believe in NEM and have supported all these years.

Same here, I was here from day one, I bought my stake on the NXT asset exchange when they were listed. Boy it seems just like yesterday! lol

I posted "interested" in a thread made by utopianfuture when the very idea of NEM was born -- that's how I got my stack. I agree, it seems like it just happened. NEM has gone very far since its birth and it seems to be doing well. A big thanks to the developers who maintain and nurture the core of the movement!

[nzminer]

I posted "interested" in a thread made by utopianfuture when the very idea of NEM was born -- that's how I got my stack. I agree, it seems like it just happened. NEM has gone very far since its birth and it seems to be doing well. A big thanks to the developers who maintain and nurture the core of the movement!

lol, you even got a better deal than me!
For anyone to say that XEM was not distributed fairly has been seriously mislead!

This topic became boring

I am a original stakeholder too, and i am against that silvercoin fund distributed between all/original stakeholders/non original stakeholders/anybody else.

send that coins to genesis acc and let's finally forget about them.

Don`t forget NEM is a serious project now, you cant change any terms without to exclude any legal aspect. By now, nem has still a prolem with original stakeholders which missed the distribution process. Changing one of the terms could harm NEM.

You both are right. Missed stakes should be treated as missed coins/money. If coins will be 'burned' then all XEMs will automatically gain value because there will be less XEMs on the market, so every XEM holder is on plus then. In case of 'distribution between stakeholders', people will have free opportunity to dump it on the market and gain 'free money'.
In first case all XEMs will gain on value, in second case only some of XEM holders will gain...

Im not against "burning" all the XEM from the missed stakes either.
Question is what to do with the silver coin fund? I think a community vote should make it fair decision.

[rockethead]

What to do with the silver portion is another topic of discussion, but burning away will not make any significant difference to the value of XEM in the long term for sure.

If we look at an optimistic long term value of 15c, that 200m is only a drop in the ocean. Won't make any difference that will make it go down by even 20%. If it does, blame it on market volatility.

And by the time it reaches 15c many of you will be quite rich, especially those who believe in this project and have been patiently collecting. They deserve it anyway. Likewise, for those who are working hard to put value in the project.

[n3lz0n]

we BULLieve

[howi53]

What to do with the silver portion is another topic of discussion, but burning away will not make any significant difference to the value of XEM in the long term for sure.

If we look at an optimistic long term value of 15c, that 200m is only a drop in the ocean. Won't make any difference that will make it go down by even 20%. If it does, blame it on market volatility.

And by the time it reaches 15c many of you will be quite rich, especially those who believe in this project and have been patiently collecting. They deserve it anyway. Likewise, for those who are working hard to put value in the project.

As far as I know, silver coins were planned for early adopters. It's ok buy why not giving the coins an additional marketing function and sell it outside the NEM-circle to achieve more publicity for NEM.
(my idea: 1ounce .999 silver, 24k goldplated, for stakeholders, limited and unplated silver version for public sales???)
other marketing silver coin ideas welcome

[nzminer]

What to do with the silver portion is another topic of discussion, but burning away will not make any significant difference to the value of XEM in the long term for sure.

If we look at an optimistic long term value of 15c, that 200m is only a drop in the ocean. Won't make any difference that will make it go down by even 20%. If it does, blame it on market volatility.

And by the time it reaches 15c many of you will be quite rich, especially those who believe in this project and have been patiently collecting. They deserve it anyway. Likewise, for those who are working hard to put value in the project.

As far as I know, silver coins were planned for early adopters. It's ok buy why not giving the coins an additional marketing function and sell it outside the NEM-circle to achieve more publicity for NEM.
(my idea: 1ounce .999 silver, 24k goldplated, for stakeholders, limited and unplated silver version for public sales???)
other marketing silver coin ideas welcome

Perhaps make them redeemable to all the original stakeholders first, and once the deadline finishes, make the unclaimed ones available to others new to XEM?

Would need to give a decent redemption period to avoid controversy.

[targetmlrd]

Market manager actively lowers the price XEM, this is done intentionally, as I understand MM has not yet received sufficient quantitative XEM him at reasonable price, so we can see the price drop from 700 to below 600

[Sh1n]

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As far as I know, silver coins were planned for early adopters. It's ok buy why not giving the coins an additional marketing function and sell it outside the NEM-circle to achieve more publicity for NEM.
(my idea: 1ounce .999 silver, 24k goldplated, for stakeholders, limited and unplated silver version for public sales???)
other marketing silver coin ideas welcome

Perhaps make them redeemable to all the original stakeholders first, and once the deadline finishes, make the unclaimed ones available to others new to XEM?

Would need to give a decent redemption period to avoid controversy.

I agree with nzminer and howl53. A decent redemption process and period targeting a wider audience would seem to be a good way to go.
But that's my opinion. I don't really care that much about the original stakeholders being at the top of the priority list for the silver coins.

[rockethead]

Market manager actively lowers the price XEM, this is done intentionally, as I understand MM has not yet received sufficient quantitative XEM him at reasonable price, so we can see the price drop from 700 to below 600

XEM quantity was intentionally fixed at 9B, high enough as a damper against market manipulation. Having said that, we cannot stop some giant whale from dominating.

But because the distribution of xem can be quite well spread, there may be more whales in the market that work independently. Hopefully this neutralises any manipulation.

In the end, the best remedy is in the action itself, i.e. developing the best blockchain in the  crypto space.

NEM is still one of a couple of blockchain tech platforms in the top 10 market cap, and perhaps the only one that works and works well.

[yoohoo309]

... I think it's a good idea to distribute the silver/gold funds to the original stake holders we've waited long enough for them ....

I really don't see why original stakeholders should be pandered to in any way whatsoever. They've either blown it or reaped the rewards already. It would make NEM look like a closed shop to benefit a small inner circle. ...

Because when everyone else was laughing at NEM, we stood by.

Everyone had a chance to become an original stake holder, some even got in for free.

Besides those funds were voted on by the community at the time and everyone agreed to hold on to them in a community fund. We all threw BTC at NEM with the intention of having the original funds shared amongst the original investors, this is not a charity.

Now what each individual original stake holder decides to do with their share, is completely up to them.

Also, just because they are not vocal in the closed community that is BTCtalk does not mean those original stakeholders do not exist. Many of them just left it as a forgotten investment and are waiting news from the members who acted as their representatives on NEM ICO.

Yep. Well said, LemonAndFriesOne. I am one of the original stakeholders and I am still here. Waiting patiently. Watching NEM grows and following the news regularly. Since day 1. Do you realize how long ago that was? I'm here for long-term investments. Please, do not disregard the stakeholders that truly believe in NEM and have supported all these years.

Same here, I was here from day one, I bought my stake on the NXT asset exchange when they were listed. Boy it seems just like yesterday! lol

I posted "interested" in a thread made by utopianfuture when the very idea of NEM was born -- that's how I got my stack. I agree, it seems like it just happened. NEM has gone very far since its birth and it seems to be doing well. A big thanks to the developers who maintain and nurture the core of the movement!

an inquisitive nature of a man urge him to explore him new to new even from his birth.

[4emily]

What does 'deprecated' mean, as used in the following wording taken from https://www.nem.io/install.html:

NCC/NIS Installer (Deprecated)

The original NCC/NIS Installer. We suggest using Nanowallet, or NCC/NIS Standalone instead.

And why are the Nanowallet and NCC/NIS Standalone considered to better alternatives to the original NCC/NIS Installer?

Thanks in advance for any replies 

[garp]

What does 'deprecated' mean, as used in the following wording taken from https://www.nem.io/install.html:

NCC/NIS Installer (Deprecated)

The original NCC/NIS Installer. We suggest using Nanowallet, or NCC/NIS Standalone instead.

And why are the Nanowallet and NCC/NIS Standalone considered to better alternatives to the original NCC/NIS Installer?

Thanks in advance for any replies 

NanoWallet is developed with a newer and better technology. NCC is therefore considered to be the 'old' wallet. Deprecated indicates that at some point it will be replaced.

There were some difficulties with the zip file i remember. I'm not sure why the installer is not recommended as alternative.

[greentea]

I think NEM really needs to push to get  a USD <--> fiat gateway such as Kraken.

We have JPY with Zaif and CNY at BTC38. 

How does a coin like StellarLumens get on Kraken?

[franc0]

I think NEM really needs to push to get  a USD <--> fiat gateway such as Kraken.

We have JPY with Zaif and CNY at BTC38. 

How does a coin like StellarLumens get on Kraken?

I think a poloniex XEMUSDT pair would be awesome and beneficial for XEM.

[Jiddu]

I think a poloniex XEMUSDT pair would be awesome and beneficial for XEM.

Yea, I'd also like to see that.. would make avoiding taxes easier too AFAIK.

[jelin1984]

NEM will go to 800 sat
and if that break will go to 1200 sat
buy now

[vytasz7]

I think NEM really needs to push to get  a USD <--> fiat gateway such as Kraken.

We have JPY with Zaif and CNY at BTC38. 

How does a coin like StellarLumens get on Kraken?

I think a poloniex XEMUSDT pair would be awesome and beneficial for XEM.

Would be great to get XEM  margin trading on POLO as well

[wiser]

I think NEM really needs to push to get  a USD <--> fiat gateway such as Kraken.

We have JPY with Zaif and CNY at BTC38. 

How does a coin like StellarLumens get on Kraken?

I think a poloniex XEMUSDT pair would be awesome and beneficial for XEM.

Would be great to get XEM  margin trading on POLO as well

You can request margin trading for XEM and any other feature you want on Poloniex by going here and completing the form:

https://poloniex.com/featureRequest

[greentea]

Apostille is used to show proof of a XEM loan
https://twitter.com/NEMofficial/status/828992604322807809