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June 18, 2014, 05:17:57 AM
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Synchronicity is cool.

Synchronicity, or finding meaning in otherwise unrelated events, is a symptom of delusional psychosis.

According to research, every new thought, every new bit of information, is initially accepted prior to evaluation by way of refuting the data in order to filter it out, discard it, or dismiss it. Psychological/Neurological dysfunction may be affected by a failure or bypassing of the refutation process.

So the initial stage of processing accepts all information as equally valid with the next stage being the part that filters out the erroneous. When the refutation stage does not work properly, synchronicity is the result, in that you connect events together as having some kind of association when they actually do not.

Example: You glance at a clock and it's 11:11, the next day a clock/watch that is also showing the time to be 11:11 catches your attention. This seems to happen quite frequently so you start to believe it is some sort of sign and then you begin a process of trying to figure out what that sign might be, with the internet frequently playing it's part in the collective insanity by way of groups of equally unstable individuals gathering to share their 'real' delusions.

Explanation: You subconsciously take in the surrounding data of your environment simply by going about your usual activities. This includes the frequent information sources regarding the time, clocks, watches, computers, smartphones etc. You don't retain the memories of all the times during the day your eyes scanned across an area that included something showing the time, but it is when the time actually is 11:11 that the casual scan suddenly causes an emotional response of shock or surprise because the previously unimportant visual data where the time was not 11:11, now contains visual data where it is 11:11, thereby making you feel that you are only looking at the time when it is 11:11, which must, therefore, have some sort of meaning. It does, the one I just explained. It doesn't 'mean' anything else.

It is fallacious reasoning that leads you down the rabbit hole of psychosis. You discard all the data that doesn't fit your narrative and focus only on that which does, or at least can be crowbarred in to your ongoing delusional narrative.


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June 18, 2014, 06:00:01 AM
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I don't know; maybe someone can help me find out?

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June 18, 2014, 06:34:37 AM
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Psychiatry is a delusion, it is false science.

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June 18, 2014, 06:47:44 AM
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Psychiatry is a delusion, it is false science.
Neurology is not a delusion, it is true science. If you repeatedly ingest psychoactive substances that cause particular neurochemical responses to occur in such a way as to make you perceive reality to be something 'more' than what it is, you may well come to believe that erroneous perception.

The brain displays remarkable plasticity, in that it will constantly seek equilibrium by way of up or down-regulation of neuronal receptors in response to persistent chemical imbalances, namely, repeated psychoactive drug use. It's known as 'tolerance' and is responsible for the user needing more of their drug of choice in order to feel the same effects and also the withdrawal symptoms created if there is a sudden cessation in the repeated administration of the compound.

Long term abstinence will also demonstrate the remarkable plasticity of the brain in that it will, over time, return to its 'normal' neurological/neurochemical state. 'Normal', of course, being a rather misunderstood term in that it does not equate to functional and healthy, only to that which is usual, absent drug-induced alteration.

Whilst the good people at M.A.P.S have scientifically demonstrated the successful use of illicit psychoactive compounds to treat certain psychiatric disorders, self-medicating outside of a controlled environment, frequently leads to habitual and chronic drug abuse and all the ills that accompany that lifestyle.

Dank, just because you believe you know what you are doing, it does not equate to you actually understanding what you are doing or, for that matter, even being open to the idea that you may be wrong.

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Psychiatry is a delusion, it is false science.
Neurology is not a delusion, it is true science. If you repeatedly ingest psychoactive substances that cause particular neurochemical responses to occur in such a way as to make you perceive reality to be something 'more' than what it is, you may well come to believe that erroneous perception.

The brain displays remarkable plasticity, in that it will constantly seek equilibrium by way of up or down-regulation of neuronal receptors in response to persistent chemical imbalances, namely, repeated psychoactive drug use. It's known as 'tolerance' and is responsible for the user needing more of their drug of choice in order to feel the same effects and also the withdrawal symptoms created if there is a sudden cessation in the repeated administration of the compound.

Long term abstinence will also demonstrate the remarkable plasticity of the brain in that it will, over time, return to its 'normal' neurological/neurochemical state. 'Normal', of course, being a rather misunderstood term in that it does not equate to functional and healthy, only to that which is usual, absent drug-induced alteration.

Whilst the good people at M.A.P.S have scientifically demonstrated the successful use of illicit psychoactive compounds to treat certain psychiatric disorders, self-medicating outside of a controlled environment, frequently leads to habitual and chronic drug abuse and all the ills that accompany that lifestyle.

Dank, just because you believe you know what you are doing, it does not equate to you actually understanding what you are doing or, for that matter, even being open to the idea that you may be wrong.



Well said. Stay off the drugs Dank.
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June 19, 2014, 09:45:31 PM
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I guess I'm a human then.

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June 19, 2014, 10:06:33 PM
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but that philosophical question is very important ... it's also about dualism and determinism

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Introduction to Psychology,
Professor Paul Bloom
2 Foundations: This Is Your Brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg01Q1BI4WM

The entire course here. opencourceware 
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June 20, 2014, 02:05:01 AM
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i am a human being. who have brain and feelings Smiley
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June 20, 2014, 03:40:19 AM
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I am not.

thank you for asking though Smiley

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June 20, 2014, 06:05:47 AM
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but that philosophical question is very important ... it's also about dualism
Ah Dualism, yes, because that's been proven, right? . . . .right? . . . or, maybe, just maybe . . . there are so many people indoctrinated into theist delusion that they can't actually consider that it's about as proven as the invisible pink unicorns that watch over us in 'the quantum', along with elephant wings and garage dragons.

The 'mind' cannot exist without the brain. We exist within the brain and, when the brain stops working, we stop existing.

Dualism, or the belief that the 'mind' and the brain are separate entities leading to the 'mind' possibly continuing after death, is wishful thinking, that's all. There isn't any objective evidence that has ever suggested otherwise.

There's a whole lotta playing pretend *real* hard with myth and magic believed to be true because, well, you were raised that way. A belief in dualism is no different to a belief in Zeus or Thor, or Ra, or any of the currently 'believed' gods, it's just a long-running game of pretend.




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June 20, 2014, 07:11:13 AM
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i am a human being. who have brain and feelings Smiley

How do you know?
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June 20, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
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but that philosophical question is very important ... it's also about dualism
Ah Dualism, yes, because that's been proven, right? . . . .right? . . . or, maybe, just maybe . . . there are so many people indoctrinated into theist delusion that they can't actually consider that it's about as proven as the invisible pink unicorns that watch over us in 'the quantum', along with elephant wings and garage dragons.

The 'mind' cannot exist without the brain. We exist within the brain and, when the brain stops working, we stop existing.

Dualism, or the belief that the 'mind' and the brain are separate entities leading to the 'mind' possibly continuing after death, is wishful thinking, that's all. There isn't any objective evidence that has ever suggested otherwise.

There's a whole lotta playing pretend *real* hard with myth and magic believed to be true because, well, you were raised that way. A belief in dualism is no different to a belief in Zeus or Thor, or Ra, or any of the currently 'believed' gods, it's just a long-running game of pretend.

Then you must be a robot.  Your consciousness exists with or without a brain, non existence does not exist.  I have contemplated this long and hard since I was about 8 years old, there is no possible way your consciousness can stop existing.  Energy can only be transferred, not destroyed.

Duality is the very essence of our universe, we perceive dimensions of space which are created by positive and negative attributes.  We perceive feeling which are perceived as positive and negative emotions.  If duality did not exist, we would be a singular point of consciousness with absolutely no perception of time, space, or change.  We would be in the highest realm of heaven, complete nirvana.

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June 20, 2014, 02:02:23 PM
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You are employing fallacious reasoning Dank.

Your consciousness exists with or without a brain, non existence does not exist.
While, certainly, by it's very nature, 'non-existence' does not 'exist' because it is merely a word we use to describe the absence of existence, that is not to say that we do not 'cease to exist'. All evidence suggests that we cease to exist and it is extremely wishful thinking, along with the employment of intellectual dishonesty, that has us believing otherwise.

You assertion is baseless.

there is no possible way your consciousness can stop existing.  Energy can only be transferred, not destroyed.
Ah, yes, the ol', utterly fallacious, use of energy transference as attempt to 'prove' that, because we are based on electrochemical energy, the transformation of our physical form from 'alive' to 'dead', magically implies that our electrochemical energy will, erm, go somewhere, or do something, or become quantum, or something. In any event the idea that our 'mind' continues to exist after the brain has ceased to function is, again, wishful thinking by those who are conditioned to believe in dualism.

The point being, energy may well transfer to other forms as a result of particular interactions, but it doesn't follow that our minds are then capable of the same. Our mind is a filter of the inputs received by our senses and neurochemical action/reaction, if the brain is no longer providing the electrochemical energy to power that filter, do we then exist in the form of the dissipated heat energy that it gives off in its fading functioning? No. Otherwise we would exist in the heat energy it already generates. Energy is continually transferring all the while our brain is functioning, why should it magically make something else happen as it fades into the state of ceasing to function?

Duality is the very essence of our universe
That's pretty meaningless in the context of this discussion.

If duality did not exist, we would be a singular point of consciousness with absolutely no perception of time, space, or change. 
Then, surely, we wouldn't be we because we simply wouldn't be.

You know how you didn't exist before you came into existence as a complex organism? Yeah, there's no reason to believe that ceasing to exist is going to be any different.

But, you know what, we get to know that we will always have existed, at some point in space and time. That will never change, we, will always have existed, even if but for a fraction of a macrosecond in the truly enormous cosmological scale of things.

It is in being conditioned to believe in dualism, in something we call a 'spirit' or a 'soul', that we waste vast amount of time and energy not living but merely existing under the foolish impression that something better will be handed to us afterwards.

Intellectual honesty. It is a truly wonderful thing.


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June 20, 2014, 02:02:50 PM
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I'm not a robot, nice song too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_oMD6-6q5Y  Smiley



Besides that, indeed it's a tough philosophical question what differs a robot from a human, if anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

My best take on that topic is this:

Spirituality or consciousness is everything that wouldn't exist in a world that consists solely of machines and robots of maximized "rationality" and efficiency.

They'd have no purpose for art, music, dance, everything that makes life "lively" and worthwhile for us humans (with a soul).

In fact the robots and machines should come to the seemingly only rational ultimate conclusion: To immediately suspend everything they're doing and just freeze in order to stop raising entropy and contributing to the heat death of the universe.

But somehow there seems to be more to life, to existence, which is hard to grab and hard to explain.

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Nowadays, I feel that I'm a robot, with time is ultra running and I can't have the time to inhale anymore.
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So let's set 2 AI to talk each other ... I am bet in clever bot
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June 20, 2014, 07:16:50 PM
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You are employing fallacious reasoning Dank.

Your consciousness exists with or without a brain, non existence does not exist.
While, certainly, by it's very nature, 'non-existence' does not 'exist' because it is merely a word we use to describe the absence of existence, that is not to say that we do not 'cease to exist'. All evidence suggests that we cease to exist and it is extremely wishful thinking, along with the employment of intellectual dishonesty, that has us believing otherwise.

You assertion is baseless.

there is no possible way your consciousness can stop existing.  Energy can only be transferred, not destroyed.
Ah, yes, the ol', utterly fallacious, use of energy transference as attempt to 'prove' that, because we are based on electrochemical energy, the transformation of our physical form from 'alive' to 'dead', magically implies that our electrochemical energy will, erm, go somewhere, or do something, or become quantum, or something. In any event the idea that our 'mind' continues to exist after the brain has ceased to function is, again, wishful thinking by those who are conditioned to believe in dualism.

The point being, energy may well transfer to other forms as a result of particular interactions, but it doesn't follow that our minds are then capable of the same. Our mind is a filter of the inputs received by our senses and neurochemical action/reaction, if the brain is no longer providing the electrochemical energy to power that filter, do we then exist in the form of the dissipated heat energy that it gives off in its fading functioning? No. Otherwise we would exist in the heat energy it already generates. Energy is continually transferring all the while our brain is functioning, why should it magically make something else happen as it fades into the state of ceasing to function?

Duality is the very essence of our universe
That's pretty meaningless in the context of this discussion.

If duality did not exist, we would be a singular point of consciousness with absolutely no perception of time, space, or change. 
Then, surely, we wouldn't be we because we simply wouldn't be.

You know how you didn't exist before you came into existence as a complex organism? Yeah, there's no reason to believe that ceasing to exist is going to be any different.

But, you know what, we get to know that we will always have existed, at some point in space and time. That will never change, we, will always have existed, even if but for a fraction of a macrosecond in the truly enormous cosmological scale of things.

It is in being conditioned to believe in dualism, in something we call a 'spirit' or a 'soul', that we waste vast amount of time and energy not living but merely existing under the foolish impression that something better will be handed to us afterwards.

Intellectual honesty. It is a truly wonderful thing.

A fallacy is a false statement.  If you would look at the polarity of the words and the statement they create you would see that they are true.

There is absolutely no proof for non existence.  Science is a primitive way to measure our material plane.  Science does not quantify the infinite dimensions around us.  We may perceive a lack of something, but that is our perception, not the actual existence of said thing.

We live in an infinite universe, it is 100% certain that everything exists.  If you can think of it, it exists, for you are connecting to the reality where it does.  We are multidimensional beings and thoughts are other dimensions we connect to incompletely.

All matter resonates at a certain frequency, there are infinite frequencies we can tune our consciousness to.  Everything you possibly imagine exists everywhere.

Without duality we are left with singularity, singularity is what Buddhists refer to as nirvana, enlightenment, it is egodeath and I have seen, or become, it myself.  Without negativity, you can quite literally ascend to the highest dimension and perceive every frequency the universe has at once, creating a singular point of completely white light and infinite peace.

Negativity will always be codependent on the existence of positivity, for it is positivity, or consciousness that enables the ability to perceive nothingness.  There is no place where nothing exists.

To say there's no such thing as a spirit or soul is to say you are not conscious.  It is to say you feel no love, no positive emotions, no unity with anything, for that is the nature of the soul.

You have been conditioned to believe in negativity and that is the very source the word satan describes.  You believe in ego, material creations and all that comes with negativity, death, pain, doubt, hate, limits, etc.

You are not a body with a consciousness, you are a consciousness with a body.

If you can see that we always have existed, then you should be able to see that you always will exist.  What you perceive is up to your perception which will continue beyond death, for it always has.

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June 20, 2014, 08:02:32 PM
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Dank has a form of Bipolar disorder. I've observed his posts for quite some time, and a major symptom of Bipolar Disorder is thinking yourself "superhuman" or "otherwordly" aka Dank thinks he's far greater than anyone else because of supposed superhuman abilities. Common bipolar disorder thoughts.

I advice you to see a psychiatrist Dank, it will help greatly and keep your mind in clarity.

Don't all humans have positive and negative emoticons?  Hate and love?  Fear and peace?  Two poles?  Bi-polar?

Psychiatry is bullshit pseudoscience based off no more than opinion.  You must have robotitus.

There's a medicine for that, look into psychedelic healing.

hey dank can u tell me what is this
b'cause i am not able to see it clearly

and why have u posted this
"You cannot kill love"
is there a reason behind it



I picked it for reasons unknown at the time.  But upon my journeys I found it's meaning, it represent oroborus.  Humans are stuck in a cycle of self destruction, our planet constantly consumes itself, the picture is symbolic of our destruction of self.

You cannot kill love was added back in 2012, it meant the power of love will prevail.  Nature always wins over man made creations.  I have since realized much more from this statement.  I am a being of love.  My soul is love and it is my consciousness.  It is applicable to myself, you cannot kill love, you cannot kill me, you cannot kill god, no matter how hard you tried.

Synchronicity is cool.

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