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July 20, 2014, 10:48:56 PM
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S4? We have any estimate specifications?

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July 20, 2014, 11:13:17 PM
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S4? We have any estimate specifications?

My guess is that it will be 5 x faster than the S3 - so approx 2.3 GH/s - but like the S2 compared to the S1, I reckon it will not be as competitively priced... hope it is - or the upgrade from S2 to S4 is at least a good deal.

[edit] I bought 3 x S2 about 35 days ago for 9 BTC + 2 BTC for import tax. Current wallet is about 4 BTC - unlikely to ROI now. Should have kept the coins on reflection. I'd need a 'good' deal to buy bitmain again. He should do something for the failed S2 buyers.

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July 21, 2014, 12:35:01 AM
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 Dogie's comprehensive setup guide now up in super HD!

 

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July 21, 2014, 12:54:40 AM
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Do you think batch 4 will be again with minimun 2 units / order??.

yes, it is a sign they are getting greedy.
it could get worse, they could increase that number to 3 in near future if they are selling fast.
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July 21, 2014, 01:09:09 AM
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S4? We have any estimate specifications?

My guess is that it will be 5 x faster than the S3 - so approx 2.3 GH/s - but like the S2 compared to the S1, I reckon it will not be as competitively priced... hope it is - or the upgrade from S2 to S4 is at least a good deal.

[edit] I bought 3 x S2 about 35 days ago for 9 BTC + 2 BTC for import tax. Current wallet is about 4 BTC - unlikely to ROI now. Should have kept the coins on reflection. I'd need a 'good' deal to buy bitmain again. He should do something for the failed S2 buyers.

Did you use a coupon? I think S2 pricing most of the time was within ROI range only if you used a coupon. I bought some back in May and I'm pretty sure they will ROI. Although I didn't have to pay import charges so that helps too.
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July 21, 2014, 10:36:34 AM
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@dogie, A great set up guide as always!

However, I cannot agree that these things are anything near silent. They sound like jet engines when hashing. When they are idle, they are extremely quiet. Running at 1950 rpm I cannot hear my tv at what was previously "normal" volumes!


Is the jet engine thing just me? do I have faulty units?

So yeah.  Good guide. Smiley
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July 21, 2014, 11:42:38 AM
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@dogie, A great set up guide as always!

However, I cannot agree that these things are anything near silent. They sound like jet engines when hashing. When they are idle, they are extremely quiet. Running at 1950 rpm I cannot hear my tv at what was previously "normal" volumes!


Is the jet engine thing just me? do I have faulty units?

So yeah.  Good guide. Smiley

My ones run at max 1200 rpm stock. What is your ambient room temperature? Also what are your temperatures on each board?

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July 21, 2014, 12:32:18 PM
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@dogie, A great set up guide as always!

However, I cannot agree that these things are anything near silent. They sound like jet engines when hashing. When they are idle, they are extremely quiet. Running at 1950 rpm I cannot hear my tv at what was previously "normal" volumes!


Is the jet engine thing just me? do I have faulty units?

So yeah.  Good guide. Smiley

My ones run at max 1200 rpm stock. What is your ambient room temperature? Also what are your temperatures on each board?

Not sure about ambient room temp, but of late we have been having a heat wave, outside 27 - 30 degrees C. 

Chips are showing 38-40 degrees up to 43.
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July 21, 2014, 01:45:36 PM
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Hi,

Do you know how to "improve" the regulator issue ?

Someone said some posts before about using a heat-sink or something (I don't know if the problem related to overheating).
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July 21, 2014, 05:51:06 PM
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Well after several days of running my S3's 4 out of 7 are running to spec (441GH/s @ 330Watts). 3 are running below spec (420GH/s @ 308Watts). After reading BitMain's suggestion to open them up and inspect heat sink and thermal paste, I found all 3 had some OVER USE of thermal paste on at least one of the boards. Cleaning them up and applying a proper amount of paste so as to NOT grease ASIC pins together, they are running @ spec...  For now, update in a few hours.

IF your S3 is running but running slow or has "x" or "-" indicators I would clean them up, apply proper thermal paste (pads would be even better), before trying to RMA as that could take sometime. Clean-up takes less than an hour.
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July 21, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
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Cleaning them up and applying a proper amount of paste so as to NOT grease ASIC pins together, they are running @ spec...  For now, update in a few hours.


I wouldn't know where to apply it and what a proper amount would be. why not just clean the obvious excess mechanically (swipe)?
What is the good paste: arctic silver? cooler master? zalman?
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July 21, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
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Cleaning them up and applying a proper amount of paste so as to NOT grease ASIC pins together, they are running @ spec...  For now, update in a few hours.


I wouldn't know where to apply it and what a proper amount would be. why not just clean the obvious excess mechanically (swipe)?
What is the good paste: arctic silver? cooler master? zalman?

I'm sure someone (or I will) post up pics to show where to do it (very easy!). You do not want to just wipe the excess because there can be a ton of caked on thermal paste in between the chip/heatsink. Additionally, the thermal paste they use is most likely just some basic paste and any aftermarket thermal paste will likely bring down temps.

AS5 will do just fine.

so, you clean first chemically? i see this product that has both AS5 and cleaning solution:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-ArctiClean/dp/B001FVI91U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8
or just order AS5:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-Grams/dp/B000OGX5AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
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Last edit: July 21, 2014, 11:02:08 PM by bgibso01
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My poor order is waiting on clearance from customs (outbound) since 7/18. Sad  Still suppose to be here tomorrow.  We'll see.

Yeah! Now in AK.  Still on for Tues delivery.
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July 21, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
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Cleaning them up and applying a proper amount of paste so as to NOT grease ASIC pins together, they are running @ spec...  For now, update in a few hours.


I wouldn't know where to apply it and what a proper amount would be. why not just clean the obvious excess mechanically (swipe)?
What is the good paste: arctic silver? cooler master? zalman?

I'm sure someone (or I will) post up pics to show where to do it (very easy!). You do not want to just wipe the excess because there can be a ton of caked on thermal paste in between the chip/heatsink. Additionally, the thermal paste they use is most likely just some basic paste and any aftermarket thermal paste will likely bring down temps.

AS5 will do just fine.

so, you clean first chemically? i see this product that has both AS5 and cleaning solution:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-ArctiClean/dp/B001FVI91U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8
or just order AS5:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-Grams/dp/B000OGX5AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8


Correct.

Measure your GH/s and Temps before changing anything, note them.

You'll remove the heatsink and first do a cleaning/wipedown. Be gentle and very detailed!

You can use that solutions or any ISO Alcohol above 90% will do (I personally use 99% ISO)

Use a Q-Tip and/or MicroFiber cloth to do the cleaning.

Make sure the chipset is dry/clean then reapply the new thermal paste, but do not cake it on.

Boot and now look at GH/s and temps - if temps are higher, re-check everything and make sure you put enough paste on.



great, thank you very much
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July 21, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
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Cleaning them up and applying a proper amount of paste so as to NOT grease ASIC pins together, they are running @ spec...  For now, update in a few hours.


I wouldn't know where to apply it and what a proper amount would be. why not just clean the obvious excess mechanically (swipe)?
What is the good paste: arctic silver? cooler master? zalman?

I'm sure someone (or I will) post up pics to show where to do it (very easy!). You do not want to just wipe the excess because there can be a ton of caked on thermal paste in between the chip/heatsink. Additionally, the thermal paste they use is most likely just some basic paste and any aftermarket thermal paste will likely bring down temps.

AS5 will do just fine.

so, you clean first chemically? i see this product that has both AS5 and cleaning solution:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-ArctiClean/dp/B001FVI91U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8
or just order AS5:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-Grams/dp/B000OGX5AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8


Correct.

Measure your GH/s and Temps before changing anything, note them.

You'll remove the heatsink and first do a cleaning/wipedown. Be gentle and very detailed!

You can use that solutions or any ISO Alcohol above 90% will do (I personally use 99% ISO)

Use a Q-Tip and/or MicroFiber cloth to do the cleaning.

Make sure the chipset is dry/clean then reapply the new thermal paste, but do not cake it on.

Boot and now look at GH/s and temps - if temps are higher, re-check everything and make sure you put enough paste on.



arf i had that problem with an S1, the glue wouldnt get solid after weeks of mining.. then the vent blowed dust on the board, mixing it with the glue. cleaned it up with some toilet paper (Grin) and lost about half of the hasrate. anyway, i ROIed and it was about the time to stop running it.

anyho, just saying, beware of that glue they're using. better letting the device cool down every weeks or so.
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July 21, 2014, 06:37:17 PM
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Cleaning them up and applying a proper amount of paste so as to NOT grease ASIC pins together, they are running @ spec...  For now, update in a few hours.


I wouldn't know where to apply it and what a proper amount would be. why not just clean the obvious excess mechanically (swipe)?
What is the good paste: arctic silver? cooler master? zalman?

I'm sure someone (or I will) post up pics to show where to do it (very easy!). You do not want to just wipe the excess because there can be a ton of caked on thermal paste in between the chip/heatsink. Additionally, the thermal paste they use is most likely just some basic paste and any aftermarket thermal paste will likely bring down temps.

AS5 will do just fine.

so, you clean first chemically? i see this product that has both AS5 and cleaning solution:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-ArctiClean/dp/B001FVI91U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8
or just order AS5:
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-Thermal-Compound-Grams/dp/B000OGX5AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8


Correct.

Measure your GH/s and Temps before changing anything, note them.

You'll remove the heatsink and first do a cleaning/wipedown. Be gentle and very detailed!

You can use that solutions or any ISO Alcohol above 90% will do (I personally use 99% ISO)

Use a Q-Tip and/or MicroFiber cloth to do the cleaning.

Make sure the chipset is dry/clean then reapply the new thermal paste, but do not cake it on.

Boot and now look at GH/s and temps - if temps are higher, re-check everything and make sure you put enough paste on.



arf i had that problem with an S1, the glue wouldnt get solid after weeks of mining.. then the vent blowed dust on the board, mixing it with the glue. cleaned it up with some toilet paper (Grin) and lost about half of the hasrate. anyway, i ROIed and it was about the time to stop running it.

anyho, just saying, beware of that glue they're using. better letting the device cool down every weeks or so.


Yeah, S1 was baking dust on the back side of the machine. After a couple of months there was quite a mess near/under fan.
You probably had an ESD event when you were cleaning the boards with toilet paper (electrostatic discharge). I tried to not touch boards for cleaning at all, even when they looked a little dusty.
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July 21, 2014, 06:42:48 PM
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Has anyone with a B3 order received a shipping notification?  Still anxiously awaiting mine...
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July 21, 2014, 06:49:54 PM
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Has anyone with a B3 order received a shipping notification?  Still anxiously awaiting mine...

probably late tonight (which is morn July 22 in china) or tomorrow because my late batch 2 was shipped today
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July 21, 2014, 06:54:13 PM
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Has anyone with a B3 order received a shipping notification?  Still anxiously awaiting mine...

probably late tonight (which is morn July 22 in china) or tomorrow because my late batch 2 was shipped today
My batch 3 order
Order Date: 2014-07-11 18:50:20
Pay Date:2014-07-11 19:01:06

Just got an e-mail from UPS this morning EST that my labels have been printed.
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July 21, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
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Can confirm 5 orders (50+ units) of Batch 1 have been shipped. No sign on my B2's as of yet.
Can't wait for your Batch 2 to arrive!!  Smiley Smiley


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