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July 15, 2014, 04:30:10 PM |
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<||=||> Rule #1a: Never invest more then you can afford to lose. <||=||> Rule #1b: Never invest all you can afford to lose. <||=||> ............. Whenever someone idly claims a scam, a Bitcoin somewhere dies .............
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July 15, 2014, 05:36:16 PM |
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Okay, I might have now wasted my time reading all posts in this thread because at first I wanted to buy a 5 year contract and now, well just have proper mixed gut feelings.
So having mixed feelings on a 5 year contract with no legit way to refund or trade out this to me a no go especially with confusing posts from trolls trying very hard not to be trolling either for the good or evil in this project.
I must admit, I do like cloud mining or (mining as a service) and it's got an excellent future if done right. I see cex.io and bpmining mentioned in discussions - I own mining capacity in both and also in some others luckily not mentioned and smeared here.
bitcoincloudservices.com poster - I'm sorry but the internet is a democracy and looking at the back and forth accusation posts here, trying to come clean games, trolling and then the abrupt absenteeism of bitcoincloudservices.com poster this potential investor now moving on with his BTC.
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July 15, 2014, 05:41:10 PM |
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~opens a window to air the thread~ Let's LOL together, Mike But seriously: The above information of duffles correspond exactly to my previous experiences. 6.7% payout per week until now (without without compound interest nor trading). But his investment is braver than mine. If it's a HYIP (which I would never write here when I would be a staff of BCS) it would be still a good chance to earn some bucks. Anyway, wait and see what will happen after 90 days. I think positive, however BCS generates BTCs as long they pay. Maybe they have their datacenter-contracts in Kuwait with 5 US-Cent/KW, or India or China ... why not - global world, global dealer. best regards
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Mike18feb
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July 15, 2014, 07:06:29 PM |
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bitcoincloudservices.com poster - I'm sorry but the internet is a democracy and looking at the back and forth accusation posts here, trying to come clean games, trolling and then the abrupt absenteeism of bitcoincloudservices.com poster this potential investor now moving on with his BTC.
Hmmm, PBMining's thread is filled with all the above, yet you have an investment there but you won't at BCS. If I look at your reasons then there's just one thing different from PBMining, and that's the sudden absenteeism. And I can't blame you for that. It's one the things I've mentioned to them. If BCS wants to build a big memberbase then they have to face those members. Frequent updates here but also on the website help. There's too much silence and too much uncertainty being left to grow into bigger doubts. But all that is up to BCS. Either they pick that up or time will tell, which takes a hell of a lot longer. The recent changes seem to suggest they're building up for more, so who knows... In the mean time they're out of stock, so there's not much to invest anyway: We are out of stock We are waiting for new hardware, we’ll start to take new orders as soon as it arrives.Let's LOL together, Mike But seriously: The above information of duffles correspond exactly to my previous experiences. 6.7% payout per week until now (without without compound interest nor trading). But his investment is braver than mine. If it's a HYIP (which I would never write here when I would be a staff of BCS) it would be still a good chance to earn some bucks. Anyway, wait and see what will happen after 90 days. I think positive, however BCS generates BTCs as long they pay. Maybe they have their datacenter-contracts in Kuwait with 5 US-Cent/KW, or India or China ... why not - global world, global dealer. best regards Ritch, you're like big dog, jumping all over the place giddily and bumping into people. Down, boy, you're scaring people About India or China, their faq says their mines are located in the UK, US and South America. The UK doesn't exactly strike me as cheap, but really, apart from what wiki sites I know little about costs worldwide. And it's rather meaningless also without a clue about what's actually using power. And duffles seemed to ring a bell. I think he's one of the facebook people that left a comment on the BCS page
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July 15, 2014, 07:28:16 PM |
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Here's my experience: - Invested ฿4.988
- Purchased 1.72TH/s over five years
- Had consistent daily payouts with no gaps
- 15 payouts received
- ฿0.77675518 paid back
- 15.57247755% paid back over 15 days
- Average return >1% per day
- Break even 100 days
- 1725 days remaining on contract after break even
- Step 3... profit!
This is BCS posting themselves. I can smell it. 100 days BE? Dude, you cannot buy 1.7 TH/s without being aware of difficulty. Nope. Not that I can think of a method of proving that to you.
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July 15, 2014, 09:45:50 PM Last edit: July 16, 2014, 09:17:09 AM by Ritch |
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Well, Mike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_pricing#Global_electricity_price_comparisonThink global. And for sure I'm "a big dog" but old without tees. Everyone can win with the right plan and splittited risks without spam nor scam. *ups* now I get your meaning: I should not scare anyone! I dont want to. Update: Last payout BCS->CEX 2014-07-16 02:00:08 GMT+1 *$$* best regards
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July 17, 2014, 06:14:50 AM |
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Hi. Sorry I’ve been quiet around here, but our mining operations have been active and also some of the forum members’s know we’ve been active through, email, chat and our support desk. I’m the only person that has access to this account and I’ll never write with a different username I see some questions by the same people, and a lot of these questions have been answered. Bitcoin mining is a very competitive industry, there are some big players out there, MegaBigPower, Cloudhashing, PBMining and Ghash.io to name a few and most of them don’t make their mining operations public. With all the hardware delays from the manufactures and other problems miners are facing, most likely none of these companies will tell you how and where they are getting their hardware. We are a small mining company but we have access to custom made hardware and cheap electricity (not all our mines are in the UK). We wish to maintain some degree of secrecy in our mining operations but we are here to stay and we are working hard to earn the trust of the community, the same trust some of the companies I mentioned earlier have won. Some of the people that have posted in this topic are our customers and they can tell you at some degree about our level of service. We’ll be posting in this forum, but keep in mind that there is more to Bitcoin than the Bitcointalk forums. Our main support channel is our support desk https://support.bitcoincloudservices.com/hc/en-us/requests/newI see that some users are wondering when are they going to break even and eventually profit. We can’t tell you exactly when this is going to happen as it depends on the network’s difficulty. But in the next coming weeks we’ll be upgrading our customer area to give you more stats and more information about your investment. The same developers that helped us with the referral system are already working on the new customer area. At the moment we are out of stock and not taking new orders, we are waiting on new hardware to arrive and hopefully we’ll have it running early next week. We don’t believe in preorders. We’ll let you know as soon as we set up the new hardware and start taking orders again. This won’t affect in any way our existing customers. Payouts have been on time and will always be. Gabriel.
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BITCOINDENMARK
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July 17, 2014, 08:39:34 PM |
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Your profile looks very real I am now following you...
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July 17, 2014, 09:58:52 PM |
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Your profile looks very real I am now following you... It should look real, considering it's my actual personal profile Here's a really (boring) old post I just made public from 2008... https://www.facebook.com/duffles/posts/35515226023
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July 18, 2014, 05:59:55 AM |
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Hi Gabriel
Just one more question: Why the daily payouts have the same value? Normally the value should keep changing ... It's a pro-rata distribution of all generated Coins from last week?
best regards
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Muhammed Zakir
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July 18, 2014, 04:49:50 PM |
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Hi Gabriel
Just one more question: Why the daily payouts have the same value? Normally the value should keep changing ... It's a pro-rata distribution of all generated Coins from last week?
best regards
Check a profitability calculator for knowing how much you will get. It is based on the profitability calculator. The payout will decrease when the difficulty increases. Kindly, MZ
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Mike18feb
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July 18, 2014, 06:04:02 PM |
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That's not what Ritch wants to know, Muhammed Ritch noticed that payouts for seperate days are the same. It's unlikely that the pool finds the exact same number of blocks every day, so the payout should be different from day to day, if it was based on actual mining rewards. But Gabriel has already told me earlier that they simply use a baseline for payouts instead of looking at actual rewards. I lost the message though, so it's me remembering things here. Kinda like the pro-rata distribution Ritch already mentioned. Saves BCS the trouble of doing a hell of a lot of math, and benefit for the miners is that when BCS finds less blocks, miner reward is still the same. makes me wonder what they do with the extra blocks they find, but fine, I'm not complaining actually.
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July 18, 2014, 06:53:02 PM |
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Hi Ritch Just like PB mining we pay with a formula and to get an idea of your earnings any good Bitcoin Profit calculator will do http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ By doing this we are taking a risk that's not being passed on to our customers. A customer will receive a daily payout and this will happen even if there are no mined blocks. Like I said it's a risk we take, not our customers. Due to the competitive nature of the Bitcoin network, we will not go into specific details of our mining operations. I can add that the new customer area will give customers more information about their investment with us.
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Ritch
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July 18, 2014, 06:54:43 PM |
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Kinda like the pro-rata distribution Ritch already mentioned. Saves BCS the trouble of doing a hell of a lot of math, and benefit for the miners is that when BCS finds less blocks, miner reward is still the same. makes me wonder what they do with the extra blocks they find, but fine, I'm not complaining actually.
That was my guess, and I have no problem with that, because I can compare the daily receipts of different clouds. BCS has currently the highest outputs in relation to the price per GHS. I'm pleased. best regards
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July 18, 2014, 07:01:59 PM |
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Hi Ritch Just like PB mining we pay with a formula and to get an idea of your earnings any good Bitcoin Profit calculator will do http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ By doing this we are taking a risk that's not being passed on to our customers. A customer will receive a daily payout and this will happen even if there are no mined blocks. Like I said it's a risk we take, not our customers. Due to the competitive nature of the Bitcoin network, we will not go into specific details of our mining operations. I can add that the new customer area will give customers more information about their investment with us. I've seen the review. A good move. The goal should be, that investors do not need Exel to calculate the sum of all of their daily intake. Thus there would be more transparency about the ROR (ROI). best regards, from [Negromonga]
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Mike18feb
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July 18, 2014, 10:23:05 PM |
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I can add that the new customer area will give customers more information about their investment with us.
Yes, now I remember what I wanted to comment on. Previously you said the new customer area was being done by the same people that did the referral area. And the referral area is actually very well done. A huge improvement over the old version. There's quite a bit of information to find for those that need it. Small tip: I miss a time/date stamp for visits. And I still don't have an answer to my question what "Direct Traffic" means. Obviously no link from another site, but what then? People who were referred to the site previously, who have bookmarked it, and are recognized by the cookie on their re-visits? Anyway, if the affiliate area is a measure for the customer area, then cool, can't wait Ritch wants the customer area to do all of the calculations for him. I'm taking it one step further: I also want it to fetch me coffee when I check in
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July 18, 2014, 11:08:25 PM |
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I saw lunamine which only cost 0.0025 / gh/s
I wonder which are much more worth it .
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July 19, 2014, 05:07:06 AM |
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Ritch wants the customer area to do all of the calculations for him. I'm taking it one step further: I also want it to fetch me coffee when I check in Well, in my local bank the director always offers me a coffee. Seriously: A second column with total revenue and a ROR would be nice. Motto: If you want your money working for you, YOU don't want to work for your money. best regards
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July 19, 2014, 05:39:08 AM Last edit: July 19, 2014, 05:57:52 AM by Ritch |
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I saw lunamine which only cost 0.0025 / gh/s
I wonder which are much more worth it .
Perhaps big Antminer in Kuwait. CEX: 0.0049 MN1: 0.0092 BCS: 0.0029 Don't ask for the price only, ask for stability, tradable, trustworth and support. I sold GHS on CEX to buy a contract on BCS. Good deal! I use CEX for reinvestment of daily BCS-Output. Nice compound interest. I use MN1/2 on Cryptsy to park other income with intersts, trade with IXC and send them to CEX. It works with 1/3 risk and don't have to pay for Hardware nor Electricity. Perhaps Lunamine could be worth to test, too.
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