I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL)

[nibbknot]

I left most recently, and since I'm no longer under their control I can now share with anybody interested two important things.

One, bcp19, whose first name is Bruce, DOES work for BFL. Ask him and I'm sure he'll say yes, but if he doesn't, I have no problem with linking to pictures of him while employed at the plant. He's been there since last fall. I seriously don't know what game he's playing on this forum and what he's trying to accomplished, but I'm pretty sure it ain't good. To be fair, he is a nice guy.

Second. BFL received chips months ago that were intended for what you guys consider the Monarch. Thousands of miners have already made at BFL's plant using those new chips. Ask Bruce that also. He knows. Since you're now curious as to where all them miners went and are continuing to go, here... http://www.coinware.io/. Moreover, HashTrade, NimbusMining, LiquidBits, and Netsolus. The lead guy for CoinWare is named James (I'm not stating his last name because I don't want to get in trouble, but I'm sure you smart guys can figure it out). James visits the plant a lot, walking around assembling unescorted then heads to the offices of management to discuss whatever.

This post is valid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg6877963#msg6877963 because I was there when two guys from HashFast (don't get the name mixed up with HashTrade) walked the plant with Sonny, David, and Josh.

I honestly don't want to get mixed up with this mess because I have a family and all. BFL treated me pretty fairly while I was there, but feel it important for you guys who have millions still tied up and waiting for equipment to be aware. It's a shame that you guys who ordered first will probably be the last to get your miners. At least when you do get them, you'll make your money back, even if it takes longer than you planned, if I understand correctly how the whole thing works. Still, it's a screwed up deal.

One more thing, for what it's worth. Everybody in the plant knows about Sonny's past, and some not mentioned here, and we all joke about how we are (was for me, now) working for crooks and scumbags, most the time in Spanish when management is not around, of course.

Heck, I might as well add this tidbit, even though it doesn't matter none except to Sonny's girlfriend. Sonny has been screwing one of the pretty Mexican girls in assembly since early last year. I'm not going to mention her name for obvious reasons, but everybody at the plant knows it except Sonny's girlfriend who have a son together. I don't see that relationship lasting too much longer due to them fighting a lot, where then Sonny may start seeing the Mexican girl full time then.

Sorry if I said too much. All I wanted to say was about Bruce and CoinWare and how you guys are getting screwed big time.

Peace.

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[dulac97]

Thanks for your honesty...

We're all rooting for the S3.

Goodbye Butterfly Labs!

[Xian01]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

[nibbknot]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

Are you asking me? I'm not bcp19/Bruce. I used to work for Butterfly Labs, but not anymore. Apologies for not stating when or why I left but it was recent. I just don't want them to get a bearing on whom I am.

[Xian01]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

Are you asking me? I'm not bcp19/Bruce. I used to work for Butterfly Labs, but not anymore. Apologies for not stating when or why I left but it was recent. I just don't want them to get a bearing on whom I am.

No, not asking you. Asking bcp19 publicly as I'm sure he will see this post.

[dogie]

Relevent

[Norcoin_]

I left most recently, and since I'm no longer under their control I can now share with anybody interested two important things.

One, bcp19, whose first name is Bruce, DOES work for BFL. Ask him and I'm sure he'll say yes, but if he doesn't, I have no problem with linking to pictures of him while employed at the plant. He's been there since last fall. I seriously don't know what game he's playing on this forum and what he's trying to accomplished, but I'm pretty sure it ain't good. To be fair, he is a nice guy.

Second. BFL received chips months ago that were intended for what you guys consider the Monarch. Thousands of miners have already made at BFL's plant using those new chips. Ask Bruce that also. He knows. Since you're now curious as to where all them miners went and are continuing to go, here... http://www.coinware.io/. Moreover, HashTrade, NimbusMining, LiquidBits, and Netsolus. The lead guy for CoinWare is named James (I'm not stating his last name because I don't want to get in trouble, but I'm sure you smart guys can figure it out). James visits the plant a lot, walking around assembling unescorted then heads to the offices of management to discuss whatever.

This post is valid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg6877963#msg6877963 because I was there when two guys from HashFast (don't get the name mixed up with HashTrade) walked the plant with Sonny, David, and Josh.

I honestly don't want to get mixed up with this mess because I have a family and all. BFL treated me pretty fairly while I was there, but feel it important for you guys who have millions still tied up and waiting for equipment to be aware. It's a shame that you guys who ordered first will probably be the last to get your miners. At least when you do get them, you'll make your money back, even if it takes longer than you planned, if I understand correctly how the whole thing works. Still, it's a screwed up deal.

One more thing, for what it's worth. Everybody in the plant knows about Sonny's past, and some not mentioned here, and we all joke about how we are (was for me, now) working for crooks and scumbags, most the time in Spanish when management is not around, of course.

Heck, I might as well add this tidbit, even though it doesn't matter none except to Sonny's girlfriend. Sonny has been screwing one of the pretty Mexican girls in assembly since early last year. I'm not going to mention her name for obvious reasons, but everybody at the plant knows it except Sonny's girlfriend who have a son together. I don't see that relationship lasting too much longer due to them fighting a lot, where then Sonny may start seeing the Mexican girl full time then.

Sorry if I said too much. All I wanted to say was about Bruce and CoinWare and how you guys are getting screwed big time.

Peace.

If this is legit information, thanks!
 
Peace

[makngeerwork]

Good thread, thanks.  Nice bit about Sonny's girlfriend.

[nibbknot]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

Are you asking me? I'm not bcp19/Bruce. I used to work for Butterfly Labs, but not anymore. Apologies for not stating when or why I left but it was recent. I just don't want them to get a bearing on whom I am.

No, not asking you. Asking bcp19 publicly as I'm sure he will see this post.

Stupid me! I am so sorry. I misunderstood.

For the person above this post who asked: "If this is legit information, thanks!"

Is legit, and you are welcome.

[dropt]

The lead guy for CoinWare is named James (I'm not stating his last name because I don't want to get in trouble, but I'm sure you smart guys can figure it out).

Gibson?

And I'd like to request some pictures of bcp19 working on the BFL factory floor.  Feel free to PM them to me if you'd prefer.

[Flying Hellfish]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

Are you asking me? I'm not bcp19/Bruce. I used to work for Butterfly Labs, but not anymore. Apologies for not stating when or why I left but it was recent. I just don't want them to get a bearing on whom I am.

No, not asking you. Asking bcp19 publicly as I'm sure he will see this post.

Stupid me! I am so sorry. I misunderstood.

For the person above this post who asked: "If this is legit information, thanks!"

Is legit, and you are welcome.

Since you're now curious as to where all them miners went and are continuing to go, here... http://www.coinware.io/.

I wonder if we will see this in Jody's shipping blog lol.

All kidding aside, if legit you should consider contacting the law firm with the lawsuit against BF Labs, you may have information which could help in the prosecution.  If you're claims are legit you would be doing a great service to the mining community by talking to the law firm.

You definitely don't understand it correct, no one that is still waiting for a Monarch will ever make their BTC back.

[-ck]

Thanks very much for your candour.

At least when you do get them, you'll make your money back, even if it takes longer than you planned, if I understand correctly how the whole thing works.

This is wrong, no regular miner will make back what it cost them to buy these devices ever unless they proceed to sell them.

[nibbknot]

Thanks very much for your candour.

At least when you do get them, you'll make your money back, even if it takes longer than you planned, if I understand correctly how the whole thing works.

This is wrong, no regular miner will make back what it cost them to buy these devices ever unless they proceed to sell them.

I'm confused. Sorry. If a person can't make their money back on them Monarch Miners, then why did people order them paying a few hundred dollars a piece for? I'm guessing they could be used for other things as well thus making them more valuable. Or, like you said, flip them for a profit. That makes sense, come to think of it.

[bcp19]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

Yep, started there last Sept, it was bound to come out at some point.  PG can confirm it.  Beyond that, a lot of nibbknot's statement is completely false.  Since you tin-foil hat types will believe his/her lies, I won't waste my breath.  

[Xian01]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

Yep, started there last Sept, it was bound to come out at some point.  PG can confirm it.  Beyond that, a lot of nibbknot's statement is completely false.  Since you tin-foil hat types will believe his/her lies, I won't waste my breath.  

You are paid to say that his statements are completely false.

[bcp19]

bcp19, do you work for Butterfly Labs ?

Yep, started there last Sept, it was bound to come out at some point.  PG can confirm it.  Beyond that, a lot of nibbknot's statement is completely false.  Since you tin-foil hat types will believe his/her lies, I won't waste my breath.  

You are paid to say that his statements are completely false.

Nope, I'm not paid to post on here, I've said that many times.  What I post on here is of my own free will.  Just because you believe I am being paid means you are starting from an incorrect premise and therefore are coming to an incorrect conclusion.  Everything you derive from that is also false.

[jimmothy]

bcp you are one sad excuse of a human being.

[dogie]

Do you have any proof that could substantiate any of the claims laid out, even a bit? A uniform badge with your forum ID for example?

[nexus99]

That would explain lots of stuff. Especially how BFL can continue to be in business without delivering product. The money has to come from somewhere right? Now maybe we know.

[Xian01]

Nope, I'm not paid to post on here, I've said that many times.  What I post on here is of my own free will.  Just because you believe I am being paid means you are starting from an incorrect premise and therefore are coming to an incorrect conclusion.  Everything you derive from that is also false.

Everything makes so much sense now.

Forgive me for not believing a word that comes out of your mouth.

And let me correct myself in saying "You have direct monetary reasons to say that his statements are completely false."

Did you get a refund on your Monarch order yet ? Did you have one to begin with ?