I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL)

[ElGrandJefe]

All this is unbe-fucking-lievable. It confirms the worst fears and accusations everyone has ever expressed about BFL. I was always willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they were merely grossly incompetent, but not dishonest and corrupt.

If Josh and Sonny want to fuck the girls - or even the boys - on the assembly line, that's their business, as long as it doesn't affect their work performance. But collusion, bribery, hush money, and fraud are all illegal and have no place in a proper business.

I hope everyone on the board who is complicit in these actions gets at least 10 years in PMITA prison, mining buttcoins.

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[bcp19]

BCP is a BFL employee paid to astroturf on bitcointalk.
Latest in the long line of shills...

Typical, you have 1 piece of information that is correct, yet you still get it wrong.  Yes, I do work there, no, I am not paid to post.

While the OP does seem to know me, there are inconsistencies in what they say...

1) The group picture with Sonny, Josh, PG and I... the person they are identifying is Goat.  Goat has never been to the BFL assembly 'plant'.
2) While the employes did get miners for Christmas, they were unsellable Jalapenos, not Monarchs (they ran at 3-4GH and were stamped Warranty Void).

As xrobau mentioned, this person is dropping an awful lot of information for someone trying to remain anonymous.  Too bad they can't do a simple copy and paste... their wallet address is invalid.

That comment from the BCP shill about us knowing just a few pieces of a big puzzle just confirms the fact that there is a huge puzzle in place in which he participates in. Any honest guy participating in an honest business would never refer to it as a "puzzle" Cmon! He's just trying to further stir up the bottom of the pond to cloud your view from seeing thru it.

All I now care is about this hot Mexican assembly line girl ;-)  I'll feel bad for her if she'll now have to visit Sonny in jail.

That was a metaphor, to indicate you have very few *accurate* pieces of information, yet you have come to this wildly inaccurate conclusion that you are sure is right. 

I can't wait for Bickfail to take up the baton and run with the lies.  That's what makes this so much fun, being one of the few who know the truth and laughing at those of you who are truly clueless and who believe the lies told daily on here.

Being a part of a company that is fucking all of the little guys to pad the wallets of their friends and you're "laughing" because you're privy to the truth and everyone else is caught up in the bullshit lie after lie they've been fed.

I feel pity for you.  You may be a "nice cool guy" at work, but your true persona shows here and it's really quite sad.

This is what I am talking about, the only part of your statement that is factual is the fact I am a part of the company.  The rest of your statement is your distorted view of the information you and others have pieced together.  What I find funny is that I have told the truth, yet you and others believe the colossal BS that is spewed daily on here by people like Bickfail.  This is why I refer to tin-foil hats when I talk to you... you see conspiracies behind every bush and discard the truth, even when you're hit over the head with it.  Even now you are discounting everything I say "because I am paid to say it".

I have no idea what the OP's intent was for posting here, but it's far from 'getting the truth out' and 'remaining anonymous'.  Maybe he/she is clueless enough to think that an underspeed Jalapeno *IS* a Monarch.

[Bicknellski]

Remember back when you did your email exchange... what happened then? What is happening now? And you don't believe he is a scammer? Ok.

Having visited their facilities in September last year and having had lengthy conversations with Sonny, I find this hard to believe.  They may be incompetent, but I don't believe for a second that they have intentionally screwed over their customers.  Also, if there were any Mexican employees, they sure didn't stand out to me amidst the many people working hard in their assembly rooms.

Do we remember when?

Just in case anybody's interested in some E-Mail dialogue I had with Sonny at BFL:

Quote from: My E-Mail to BFL on Jan. 24th
Hello,

I'm writing to inquire about two things.

First, can you give me a rough guesstimate of when the Rig Box might be available for shipping?  Even something as vague as "at least 12 more months" or "in 1 to 6 months" would be helpful.  More specific would be even better.  I would like to know so I can have a better idea of when I might need to make funds available to purchase one.

Second, I would just like to have a clue as to whether there's any hope that I'd be able to afford a SuperComputer when it becomes available, depending on its capabilities, of course.  Can you tell me whether it's likely to be closer to the $100,000 mark or the $1,000,000 mark?


Quote from: BFL's Response on Jan 30th
We are awaiting the completion of our first production run of Singles before we focus on the Rig Box product.  Until then, I can't give you an accurate time estimate.  Once we're through our current tasks, we will make public announcement with timing expectations and accept orders for the Rig Box.

With regards to the SuperComputer product, that is too far away to even speculate on.

Kind regards,
Sonny K
BF Labs Inc.

I'm surprised that they can't even give me a guesstimate on the rig box when all I asked for was a vague answer.  I'd have to see strong evidence that the rig box performs as well as they claim before risking that amount of money on equipment for BTC mining, not that I even have it other than through a line of credit.

Likewise, not that I have $100k or $1 million, but I was hoping to get something out of them about the Super Computer since their website says, "If you would like more information about this institutional grade system, please contact us with your inquiry."  I didn't think an answer on whether it's closer to $100k or $1 million would require speculation.

They've given me more cause for doubt, but I'm also still hopeful that they're just slow at production and reluctant to answer questions.  Time will tell.

[Xian01]

the only part of your statement that is factual is the fact I am a part of the company.  The rest of your statement is your distorted view of the information you and others have pieced together.  What I find funny is that I have told the truth, yet you and others believe the colossal BS that is spewed daily on here by people like Bickfail.  This is why I refer to tin-foil hats when I talk to you... you see conspiracies behind every bush and discard the truth, even when you're hit over the head with it.  Even now you are discounting everything I say "because I am paid to say it".
I have no idea what the OP's intent was for posting here, but it's far from 'getting the truth out' and 'remaining anonymous'.  Maybe he/she is clueless enough to think that an underspeed Jalapeno *IS* a Monarch.

*grumbles something about*

Jessep: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.

We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!

Kaffee: Did you order the code red?
Jessep: (quietly) I did the job you sent me to do.
Kaffee: Did you order the code red?
Jessep: You're goddamn right I did!!

[server]

Second. BFL received chips months ago that were intended for what you guys consider the Monarch. Thousands of miners have already made at BFL's plant using those new chips. Ask Bruce that also. He knows. Since you're now curious as to where all them miners went and are continuing to go, here... http://www.coinware.io/. Moreover, HashTrade, NimbusMining, LiquidBits, and Netsolus. The lead guy for CoinWare is named James (I'm not stating his last name because I don't want to get in trouble, but I'm sure you smart guys can figure it out). James visits the plant a lot, walking around assembling unescorted then heads to the offices of management to discuss whatever.

Is this the same James (gigavps) from mega-giga-teramining that posted last week he was working on tripling his hashrate ?



Is that goat next to Josh ?

http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

[ElGrandJefe]

BCP is a BFL employee paid to astroturf on bitcointalk.
Latest in the long line of shills...

Typical, you have 1 piece of information that is correct, yet you still get it wrong.  Yes, I do work there, no, I am not paid to post.

No, I'm sure you can claim you get paid to do "your job", which seems to be pretty high up, considering you're sitting at the table with the Chief Scammer and VP of Bullshit. Shilling for BFL on this forum is just a hobby. Maybe you'll be lucky enough to share a jail cell with the rest of them when this all blows up in your faces.

While the OP does seem to know me, there are inconsistencies in what they say...

1) The group picture with Sonny, Josh, PG and I... the person they are identifying is Goat.  Goat has never been to the BFL assembly 'plant'.
2) While the employes did get miners for Christmas, they were unsellable Jalapenos, not Monarchs (they ran at 3-4GH and were stamped Warranty Void).

As xrobau mentioned, this person is dropping an awful lot of information for someone trying to remain anonymous.  Too bad they can't do a simple copy and paste... their wallet address is invalid.

Too bad you've lost all credibility you may have ever had on this site (which isn't saying much). Time to retire this account and start a new one (or just switch to one of your other ones).

That comment from the BCP shill about us knowing just a few pieces of a big puzzle just confirms the fact that there is a huge puzzle in place in which he participates in. Any honest guy participating in an honest business would never refer to it as a "puzzle" Cmon! He's just trying to further stir up the bottom of the pond to cloud your view from seeing thru it.

All I now care is about this hot Mexican assembly line girl ;-)  I'll feel bad for her if she'll now have to visit Sonny in jail.

That was a metaphor, to indicate you have very few *accurate* pieces of information, yet you have come to this wildly inaccurate conclusion that you are sure is right. 

I can't wait for Bickfail to take up the baton and run with the lies.  That's what makes this so much fun, being one of the few who know the truth and laughing at those of you who are truly clueless and who believe the lies told daily on here.

Being a part of a company that is fucking all of the little guys to pad the wallets of their friends and you're "laughing" because you're privy to the truth and everyone else is caught up in the bullshit lie after lie they've been fed.

I feel pity for you.  You may be a "nice cool guy" at work, but your true persona shows here and it's really quite sad.

This is what I am talking about, the only part of your statement that is factual is the fact I am a part of the company.  The rest of your statement is your distorted view of the information you and others have pieced together.  What I find funny is that I have told the truth, yet you and others believe the colossal BS that is spewed daily on here by people like Bickfail.  This is why I refer to tin-foil hats when I talk to you... you see conspiracies behind every bush and discard the truth, even when you're hit over the head with it.  Even now you are discounting everything I say "because I am paid to say it".

I have no idea what the OP's intent was for posting here, but it's far from 'getting the truth out' and 'remaining anonymous'.  Maybe he/she is clueless enough to think that an underspeed Jalapeno *IS* a Monarch.

Yes, no one on this forum will ever believe a word you say again (if they ever did). A shill is a shill and can never be trusted.

I'm sure you, Josh, Sonny and the rest of the jolly robbers in that pic are laughing all the way to the bank as you mine on your own accounts with that first batch (and the second and third?) of "unsuitable" chips and all those batches of "unreliable" boards. Like I said, I hope you get to share a jail cell with the rest of them.

Dishonest, scamming pieces of shit.

[ibminer]

So does anyone know if BFL's fiscal year begins in July?

[intron]

Darn, more popcorn...

[Slaine]

This is better than owt on TV atm, I must admit I've never seen so much drama on any other forum.

Almost makes BTC mining worth it  

[Craige288]

As of this point, if anyone even shows the slightest hint of supporting BFL or cracks a joke about what's happening then I'm declaring them BFL employees because this certainly isn't funny and I'm not walking through smoke and mirrors for anyone!

This information requires investigation so anyone that can bring this to the attention of any media organisations i.e. CryptoCoinsNews etc will be doing us credit towards finding out the truth about all this.

What a bloody mess !

[k9quaint]

I wonder if BCP is one of Sonny's old lottery scam buddies.
Was he brought in to continue the scam here after Josh got run off the boards?

Anyway, it is no longer a mystery about why BCP posted misinformation and derailed every thread on BFL for the last 9 months. 

[kibblesnbits]

This is better than owt on TV atm, I must admit I've never seen so much drama on any other forum.

Almost makes BTC mining worth it  

Next on "Breaking Bit".  Difficulty rate spelled out in bacon on pancakes...

BFL - We know drama...

[WhitePhantom]

Remember back when you did your email exchange... what happened then? What is happening now? And you don't believe he is a scammer? Ok.

Having visited their facilities in September last year and having had lengthy conversations with Sonny, I find this hard to believe.  They may be incompetent, but I don't believe for a second that they have intentionally screwed over their customers.  Also, if there were any Mexican employees, they sure didn't stand out to me amidst the many people working hard in their assembly rooms.

Do we remember when?

Just in case anybody's interested in some E-Mail dialogue I had with Sonny at BFL:

Quote from: My E-Mail to BFL on Jan. 24th
Hello,

I'm writing to inquire about two things.

First, can you give me a rough guesstimate of when the Rig Box might be available for shipping?  Even something as vague as "at least 12 more months" or "in 1 to 6 months" would be helpful.  More specific would be even better.  I would like to know so I can have a better idea of when I might need to make funds available to purchase one.

Second, I would just like to have a clue as to whether there's any hope that I'd be able to afford a SuperComputer when it becomes available, depending on its capabilities, of course.  Can you tell me whether it's likely to be closer to the $100,000 mark or the $1,000,000 mark?


Quote from: BFL's Response on Jan 30th
We are awaiting the completion of our first production run of Singles before we focus on the Rig Box product.  Until then, I can't give you an accurate time estimate.  Once we're through our current tasks, we will make public announcement with timing expectations and accept orders for the Rig Box.

With regards to the SuperComputer product, that is too far away to even speculate on.

Kind regards,
Sonny K
BF Labs Inc.

I'm surprised that they can't even give me a guesstimate on the rig box when all I asked for was a vague answer.  I'd have to see strong evidence that the rig box performs as well as they claim before risking that amount of money on equipment for BTC mining, not that I even have it other than through a line of credit.

Likewise, not that I have $100k or $1 million, but I was hoping to get something out of them about the Super Computer since their website says, "If you would like more information about this institutional grade system, please contact us with your inquiry."  I didn't think an answer on whether it's closer to $100k or $1 million would require speculation.

They've given me more cause for doubt, but I'm also still hopeful that they're just slow at production and reluctant to answer questions.  Time will tell.

I do recall, and I have only 3 thoughts on it.

1. Pre-ordering an FPGA rig box (in the end, 2 FPGA mini-rigs) from BFL was, at the time, the best financial decision I had ever made, even though I was shortsighted and sold all the BTC as I mined them.
2. Pre-ordering ASIC mini-rigs from BFL was, once again, the best financial decision I've ever made, even though they delivered incredibly late.
3. Since they took so long to deliver the 65nm ASIC line, I had zero faith that they were capable of delivering the Monarchs less than a year late, so I didn't order.

I am satisfied with my BFL experience, even though it was very rocky at times.  I don't personally believe they're dishonest, based solely on my experience with them.  I have not been following much of anything on them since last September, other than occasionally noticing that the Monarchs haven't shipped yet.

[ElGrandJefe]

Remember back when you did your email exchange... what happened then? What is happening now? And you don't believe he is a scammer? Ok.

Having visited their facilities in September last year and having had lengthy conversations with Sonny, I find this hard to believe.  They may be incompetent, but I don't believe for a second that they have intentionally screwed over their customers.  Also, if there were any Mexican employees, they sure didn't stand out to me amidst the many people working hard in their assembly rooms.

Do we remember when?

Just in case anybody's interested in some E-Mail dialogue I had with Sonny at BFL:

Quote from: My E-Mail to BFL on Jan. 24th
Hello,

I'm writing to inquire about two things.

First, can you give me a rough guesstimate of when the Rig Box might be available for shipping?  Even something as vague as "at least 12 more months" or "in 1 to 6 months" would be helpful.  More specific would be even better.  I would like to know so I can have a better idea of when I might need to make funds available to purchase one.

Second, I would just like to have a clue as to whether there's any hope that I'd be able to afford a SuperComputer when it becomes available, depending on its capabilities, of course.  Can you tell me whether it's likely to be closer to the $100,000 mark or the $1,000,000 mark?


Quote from: BFL's Response on Jan 30th
We are awaiting the completion of our first production run of Singles before we focus on the Rig Box product.  Until then, I can't give you an accurate time estimate.  Once we're through our current tasks, we will make public announcement with timing expectations and accept orders for the Rig Box.

With regards to the SuperComputer product, that is too far away to even speculate on.

Kind regards,
Sonny K
BF Labs Inc.

I'm surprised that they can't even give me a guesstimate on the rig box when all I asked for was a vague answer.  I'd have to see strong evidence that the rig box performs as well as they claim before risking that amount of money on equipment for BTC mining, not that I even have it other than through a line of credit.

Likewise, not that I have $100k or $1 million, but I was hoping to get something out of them about the Super Computer since their website says, "If you would like more information about this institutional grade system, please contact us with your inquiry."  I didn't think an answer on whether it's closer to $100k or $1 million would require speculation.

They've given me more cause for doubt, but I'm also still hopeful that they're just slow at production and reluctant to answer questions.  Time will tell.

I do recall, and I have only 3 thoughts on it.

1. Pre-ordering an FPGA rig box (in the end, 2 FPGA mini-rigs) from BFL was, at the time, the best financial decision I had ever made, even though I was shortsighted and sold all the BTC as I mined them.
2. Pre-ordering ASIC mini-rigs from BFL was, once again, the best financial decision I've ever made, even though they delivered incredibly late.
3. Since they took so long to deliver the 65nm ASIC line, I had zero faith that they were capable of delivering the Monarchs less than a year late, so I didn't order.

I am satisfied with my BFL experience, even though it was very rocky at times.  I don't personally believe they're dishonest, based solely on my experience with them.  I have not been following much of anything on them since last September, other than occasionally noticing that the Monarchs haven't shipped yet.

Until you prove otherwise, you're just another BFL shill working on the long con.

[WhitePhantom]

Remember back when you did your email exchange... what happened then? What is happening now? And you don't believe he is a scammer? Ok.

Having visited their facilities in September last year and having had lengthy conversations with Sonny, I find this hard to believe.  They may be incompetent, but I don't believe for a second that they have intentionally screwed over their customers.  Also, if there were any Mexican employees, they sure didn't stand out to me amidst the many people working hard in their assembly rooms.

Do we remember when?

Just in case anybody's interested in some E-Mail dialogue I had with Sonny at BFL:

Quote from: My E-Mail to BFL on Jan. 24th
Hello,

I'm writing to inquire about two things.

First, can you give me a rough guesstimate of when the Rig Box might be available for shipping?  Even something as vague as "at least 12 more months" or "in 1 to 6 months" would be helpful.  More specific would be even better.  I would like to know so I can have a better idea of when I might need to make funds available to purchase one.

Second, I would just like to have a clue as to whether there's any hope that I'd be able to afford a SuperComputer when it becomes available, depending on its capabilities, of course.  Can you tell me whether it's likely to be closer to the $100,000 mark or the $1,000,000 mark?


Quote from: BFL's Response on Jan 30th
We are awaiting the completion of our first production run of Singles before we focus on the Rig Box product.  Until then, I can't give you an accurate time estimate.  Once we're through our current tasks, we will make public announcement with timing expectations and accept orders for the Rig Box.

With regards to the SuperComputer product, that is too far away to even speculate on.

Kind regards,
Sonny K
BF Labs Inc.

I'm surprised that they can't even give me a guesstimate on the rig box when all I asked for was a vague answer.  I'd have to see strong evidence that the rig box performs as well as they claim before risking that amount of money on equipment for BTC mining, not that I even have it other than through a line of credit.

Likewise, not that I have $100k or $1 million, but I was hoping to get something out of them about the Super Computer since their website says, "If you would like more information about this institutional grade system, please contact us with your inquiry."  I didn't think an answer on whether it's closer to $100k or $1 million would require speculation.

They've given me more cause for doubt, but I'm also still hopeful that they're just slow at production and reluctant to answer questions.  Time will tell.

I do recall, and I have only 3 thoughts on it.

1. Pre-ordering an FPGA rig box (in the end, 2 FPGA mini-rigs) from BFL was, at the time, the best financial decision I had ever made, even though I was shortsighted and sold all the BTC as I mined them.
2. Pre-ordering ASIC mini-rigs from BFL was, once again, the best financial decision I've ever made, even though they delivered incredibly late.
3. Since they took so long to deliver the 65nm ASIC line, I had zero faith that they were capable of delivering the Monarchs less than a year late, so I didn't order.

I am satisfied with my BFL experience, even though it was very rocky at times.  I don't personally believe they're dishonest, based solely on my experience with them.  I have not been following much of anything on them since last September, other than occasionally noticing that the Monarchs haven't shipped yet.

Until you prove otherwise, you're just another BFL shill working on the long con.

Because shills often call their benefactors incompetent; makes perfect sense.  I'm sure there's enough proof in my fairly long post history for anybody who really cares whether I'm being truthful.

I'm just commenting with my thoughts, and, in case it wasn't apparent, I feel for those who have had a less satisfactory experience with BFL.  Just saying that mine was mostly good.  Other than being slightly annoyed, it makes little difference to me whether you believe me, as I have no stake in BFL.  Pretty soon I'll be shutting off the 65nm gear I bought from them and moving on to KnC Titans.

[k9quaint]

I'm just commenting with my thoughts, and, in case it wasn't apparent, I feel for those who have had a less satisfactory experience with BFL.  Just saying that mine was mostly good.  Other than being slightly annoyed, it makes little difference to me whether you believe me, as I have no stake in BFL.  Pretty soon I'll be shutting off the 65nm gear I bought from them and moving on to KnC Titans.

You were in a train wreck and managed to escape without injury. That is not a good experience, that is a bad experience that could have turned out much worse.
Then you got on the next train and got in another wreck, again escaping without serious injury.

I don't know of anyone who would call their experience good under those circumstances, even if they managed to escape death and dismemberment.
Standing among the bodies of those less fortunate and declaring that the train ride was the best they ever had would strike many as strange. Then again, there are many strange folk on these boards.

[WhitePhantom]

I'm just commenting with my thoughts, and, in case it wasn't apparent, I feel for those who have had a less satisfactory experience with BFL.  Just saying that mine was mostly good.  Other than being slightly annoyed, it makes little difference to me whether you believe me, as I have no stake in BFL.  Pretty soon I'll be shutting off the 65nm gear I bought from them and moving on to KnC Titans.

You were in a train wreck and managed to escape without injury. That is not a good experience, that is a bad experience that could have turned out much worse.
Then you got on the next train and got in another wreck, again escaping without serious injury.

I don't know of anyone who would call their experience good under those circumstances, even if they managed to escape death and dismemberment.
Standing among the bodies of those less fortunate and declaring that the train ride was the best they ever had would strike many as strange. Then again, there are many strange folk on these boards.

The FPGA Singles were the product they delivered late.  I, and other FPGA Mini-Rig customers, actually received the rigs close to on-schedule.  Mine were 11 days later than their initial estimate.  That is why I had confidence in them to deliver the 65nm ASICs roughly on time.  When they failed, I lost faith and did not order a 3rd time.

However, your analogy and assessment is humorous, apt, and insightful.  At best, what I said was taken by most as pointing my finger and laughing at those who feel screwed by BFL.  I apologize to anybody I may have offended and and am going to keep such thoughts to myself in the future.

[k9quaint]

I'm just commenting with my thoughts, and, in case it wasn't apparent, I feel for those who have had a less satisfactory experience with BFL.  Just saying that mine was mostly good.  Other than being slightly annoyed, it makes little difference to me whether you believe me, as I have no stake in BFL.  Pretty soon I'll be shutting off the 65nm gear I bought from them and moving on to KnC Titans.

You were in a train wreck and managed to escape without injury. That is not a good experience, that is a bad experience that could have turned out much worse.
Then you got on the next train and got in another wreck, again escaping without serious injury.

I don't know of anyone who would call their experience good under those circumstances, even if they managed to escape death and dismemberment.
Standing among the bodies of those less fortunate and declaring that the train ride was the best they ever had would strike many as strange. Then again, there are many strange folk on these boards.

The FPGA Singles were the product they delivered late.  I, and other FPGA Mini-Rig customers, actually received the rigs close to on-schedule.  Mine were 11 days later than their initial estimate.  That is why I had confidence in them to deliver the 65nm ASICs roughly on time.  When they failed, I lost faith and did not order a 3rd time.

However, your analogy and assessment is humorous, apt, and insightful.  At best, what I said was taken by most as pointing my finger and laughing at those who feel screwed by BFL.  I apologize to anybody I may have offended and and am going to keep such thoughts to myself in the future.

No worries. Things can be so easily taken out of context on these forums. 

[Pjones]

So when BFL is not busy fucking their customers, they are fucking themselves?

[Syke]

One, bcp19, whose first name is Bruce, DOES work for BFL. Ask him and I'm sure he'll say yes, but if he doesn't, I have no problem with linking to pictures of him while employed at the plant. He's been there since last fall. I seriously don't know what game he's playing on this forum and what he's trying to accomplished, but I'm pretty sure it ain't good. To be fair, he is a nice guy.

Thanks for bringing this to light. bcp19 has been quite deceitful in hiding his employment (I'm not surprised, Josh does the same thing). In fact, he has now deleted posts to try to hide the fact of his shilling. Take a look at this quote, which he has now deleted:

As to why these threads?  That's cause that's where the majority of the stupid live.  Why read through 100+ threads a day when you can find all you need in the 3-4 Bick keeps necroing on a daily basis? 

And that's why you're just a BFL shill. All the other threads are full of the same thing. Bitmine, AMC, HF, CT, BA, KnC. Yet you always come back to only BFL threads. Bro, it's not healthy to be so obsessed with BFL.

Now it all makes sense! That also explains why he was able to get a refund out of order (if he actually did request one).

SHILL

A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization.

That perfectly describes bcp19.