I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL)

[Syke]

Watch him dodge this question:

BCP,
Have more than 5 monarch miners been delivered to anyone outside of the BFL employ? (i.e. a retail customer or business)

You can't ask specific questions like that. BFL is pro at redefining terms. When you say "Monarch", they mean a specific product sold only to customers. They can ship all sorts of products using the new chips and not call them "Monarchs". Just like how they mine with customer equipment because they don't call it customer equipment until they are done mining with it.

[nibbknot]

We seriously need to call all the hacker community to assemble our own permanent, auditing, self-regulated BitcoinLeaks branch and dismantle all fraudulent operations by colluded and even non-colluded crooks and cartels (HF, BFL, etc) and whoever else is involved. It is for the good of the Bitcoin network.

Too much money brings them like cockroaches. No different from drug dealing. These people are ruthless criminals. Not necessarily your most ethical type of venture entrepreneurs.

The name of this movie is called BitFellas:

- Barber is looking thru the window, calls Josh and says: "deCastro is pissed off with Sonny, why don't you have your boy BCP go fishing with him in the lake? You know what to do"

That's insulting to drug dealers who actually deliver a product to their customers. Don't lump them in with BFL and HF, they are just straight up thieves

If you say so but http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail/OfficerRegisteredAgentName/flal-l10000000778-4c88d511-40a6-4bd8-b7ca-a9aed3a44d8d/jacobson%20remy/Page1

Nasser and David work together : https://www.linkedin.com/pub/emmanuel-david/45/22b/113

Watch him dodge this question:

BCP,
Have more than 5 monarch miners been delivered to anyone outside of the BFL employ? (i.e. a retail customer or business)

You can't ask specific questions like that. BFL is pro at redefining terms. When you say "Monarch", they mean a specific product sold only to customers. They can ship all sorts of products using the new chips and not call them "Monarchs". Just like how they mine with customer equipment because they don't call it customer equipment until they are done mining with it.

I think that's how I got confused. What was built for the hosting companies uses the same chips that was designed for the monarch. If I'm not mistaken Butterfly labs is now waiting for the 4th or 5th batch of chips to finish up the production for the hosting outfits then start making the monarchs for the individual orders. Two different designs but using the same chips. I guess that is how HashTrade was able to get in front of everybody else that ordered way before them if what I read I read correctly.

[xstr8guy]

Second. BFL received chips months ago that were intended for what you guys consider the Monarch. Thousands of miners have already made at BFL's plant using those new chips. Ask Bruce that also. He knows. Since you're now curious as to where all them miners went and are continuing to go, here... http://www.coinware.io/. Moreover, HashTrade, NimbusMining, LiquidBits, and Netsolus. The lead guy for CoinWare is named James (I'm not stating his last name because I don't want to get in trouble, but I'm sure you smart guys can figure it out). James visits the plant a lot, walking around assembling unescorted then heads to the offices of management to discuss whatever.

Is this the same James (gigavps) from mega-giga-teramining that posted last week he was working on tripling his hashrate ?



Is that goat next to Josh ?

http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

Those guys couldn't get laid in a whorehouse

Josh could probably get laid at Missie B's. 

[Searing]

Well maybe this has been addressed...but BFL has been selling 'chips' the 65mm type since last summer...If they did actually (doubt it) tape out the monarch chip in august 2013 as they claim they could simply (and legally) be selling chips to these guys for making their own clone of a bfl miner to spec...ie...BFL makes them 'specialty cards' that 'don't' in include a format of their monarch and the 'buyer' cools them in his/her own method ...ie specialised equip

makes sense if they ran into real production delays and just plain can't get a working monarch out nothing to say they could not setup a specialized chip
arrangement that is the responsiblity of the people ordering the specialized equip to cool on their PH farm

makes sense...if they have NOT done this it means that BFL has moved NO product out of their doors (doubt anyone last fall was buying 65mm in bulk to cool) since last oct or so when they almost completed 65mm shipping..and the trickle imho of 65mm since then by newbies probably an't enough to keep the BFL doors open

so yeah ...all that 'unknown' you see on the blockchain pie chart could be BFL monarch chips in specialized rigs..it is that or they have moved NOTHING out of the plant since last year or note....(then again they have kept all the pre-order $$$ and shipped late so maybe I know zip)

but it sure looks like something BFL would do behind the scenes if their a*s was in a 'crack' and lets face it ..even if BFL was a scam and late to move equip I kinda think even they
thought they'd have something to us foo...er I mean customers by march 1st not July 1st ...if for no other reason the 'revenue stream of $$$ ie more newbie suckers"

but again they likely imho did do the above and it is all perfectly legal in that it is a 'separate' mnfg line they will say and they have stated before they 'would' sell chips..so
likely them and the partners on this..have their butt covered

and imho I'm sure the chips DO run too hot to put on a 'card' arrangement in a tower anyway...so they even have an 'out' that these chips would not work in the monrach
on a card anyway..so they moved these unsuitable chips out the door in this manner

again BFL being BFL

So either the OP on this thread is telling the 'complete truth' or it is all a 'fabrication' ..no real middle ground even so the above in my view though the above chip deal out the back door is veryi very very likely

and if I'm completely wrong tell me they 'would not' do the above if they have the means to do so with an actual monarch chip even though it MAY run too hot for the current monarch product.....(but then again they could just have been making up they even  had a chip till recently)


Searing

[BitchImightbe]

Goat is the ugly mofo with red 11 t-shirt?

[Cablez]

Goat is the ugly mofo with red 11 t-shirt?

Yes that is him.

[spazzdla]

June 21st 2014...

<.< 

BFL still exists.. :O.

[BitcoinPappi]

Oh man, I'm going to start writing a Bitcoin soup opera with all this stuff!!!

LOL!. If justice is served, do a small one then a documentary

[smracer]

Bruce,

Did you work for MW in the late 90's?

[bcp19]

Bruce,

Did you work for MW in the late 90's?

Is MW a code wode for the U.S. Navy?  If not, then no.

[joeventura]

Watch him dodge this question:

BCP,
Have more than 5 monarch miners been delivered to anyone outside of the BFL employ? (i.e. a retail customer or business)


 

BCP,

Still waiting for your response.

Yes or No?

[smracer]

Bruce,

Did you work for MW in the late 90's?

Is MW a code wode for the U.S. Navy?  If not, then no.

No it is code for a computer company in Lenexa, KS in the late 90's.  I don't think you are him. 

[Paladin69]

BFL most likely did the same thing to 65nm customers.

[rob143]

This kind of revelation kind of shows how greed tend to screw things up. None of this is particularly illegal because as someone pointed out the chips are on thing but the product called the Monarch is another.

[k9quaint]

This kind of revelation kind of shows how greed tend to screw things up. None of this is particularly illegal because as someone pointed out the chips are on thing but the product called the Monarch is another.

Actually, all of it is illegal. BFL made predictions about shipping dates they knew could not be met because they had already determined to send the chips elsewhere. They put those dates out there to entice customers knowing they would never be met. BFL refused refunds they were obligated to give. BFL mining with equipment they should be shipping to customers isn't illegal though.

There is a lawsuit that is working on certification as a class.
There are individual lawsuits that are in progress.
One lawsuit has already been won vs BFL.

The wheels of justice grind slowly when it comes to consumer facing fraud (just look at what GM did for 2 decades). Once enough lawsuits surface, the AG's will take notice then Sonny et al will get some jail time.

[Mattster28]

BFL most likely did the same thing to 65nm customers.

+1

I thought the same thing last year after waiting over a YEAR for my Singles.

[Tigggger]

At least one mystery is solved and we know what happened to the 'bullet run' chips

[Qbert]

Pictures are worth a thousand words:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/Bigblock462/PhinampBCP19_zpsd7abf72f.jpg

Upper right top first two folks,Phin & BCP.


So there WAS more to this meeting,not just a "dinner & a miner" to soothe the savage Phin  

Thanks nibbknot 

This picture is way too reminiscent of the pirateat40 meetup in vegas

[rext]

reminds me of what happened to my old 5ghz miner, both of them went dead after like 2 weeks of mining. Everytime i see the word BFL, makes me rage lol. We will ship in <insert date here>, yea right.

[joeventura]

Hereafter going forward, anyone shilling or defending a company that is not worthy of being defending with be known as:

                       BCPing for a company.

In common usage:

"Dude can you believe he is defending that company after how they have been treating their customers?"

"Dude he has been BCPing for that company for the last year!"