copumpkin
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February 26, 2012, 08:54:31 AM |
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Shouldn't Shakaru have a record of all his investors and the people he owes money to? It seems sort of backwards/unfair to wait for people to come forward to claim their money.
In fact, getting full records from Shakaru of reversed paypal transactions and the like would likely help clear up the whole business and make it much easier to figure out who's owed what (especially if paypal returned money to some investors as a result).
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gzup
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February 26, 2012, 09:52:39 AM |
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PM sent.
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payb.tc
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February 26, 2012, 10:12:27 AM |
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It seems sort of backwards/unfair to wait for people to come forward to claim their money.
that's how it works in most real-life company liquidations. (in aus anyway). |
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imsaguy
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February 27, 2012, 04:19:18 AM |
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Just an update.. There's been a total of 20 btc deposited to the collection address with no dispersals. I'd like to see if I can get a copy of shakaru's order book so I have a way to verify all claims. I don't want someone that's already gotten what they paid for to be requesting a refund. No one likes a double dipper.
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MasonIII
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February 27, 2012, 04:36:38 AM |
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Hey imsaguy, the extra 10 btc that was donated about... 3.5? hours ago is from me. The first time he was in trouble way back in the summer (before sdm was established) and trouble happened and he need some btc for loan I loaned him some just to help out because he got scammed and was honest about it. I told him he could pay me back whenever (with the literal meaning of whenever as in some point in the future). I've been talking to him here and there (in college so pretty busy), sometimes about bitcoins, sometimes about life. So this time, with everything happening I wanted to help him in whatever way I could so I'm "loaning" him 10 BTC towards paying off his debt. Loaning is in quotes because it is with the same terms but looser this time. It is I'm giving this to you, but in the future if things improve and you can pay me back then contact me and I'll give you an address. It is essentially a gift to help him out so don't count it as a loan.
Now for the late post reason. I sent the btc from my desktop at home since that is where I store it all and the internet was down until right before I had to leave for a study group. So I sent it but didnt' have time to write all this. Hopefully this clears up the question about where it came from if anyone is wondering. I believe that Shakaru is true-to his word in whatever worth my words count for.
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imsaguy
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February 27, 2012, 04:44:50 AM |
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Hey imsaguy, the extra 10 btc that was donated about... 3.5? hours ago is from me. The first time he was in trouble way back in the summer (before sdm was established) and trouble happened and he need some btc for loan I loaned him some just to help out because he got scammed and was honest about it. I told him he could pay me back whenever (with the literal meaning of whenever as in some point in the future). I've been talking to him here and there (in college so pretty busy), sometimes about bitcoins, sometimes about life. So this time, with everything happening I wanted to help him in whatever way I could so I'm "loaning" him 10 BTC towards paying off his debt. Loaning is in quotes because it is with the same terms but looser this time. It is I'm giving this to you, but in the future if things improve and you can pay me back then contact me and I'll give you an address. It is essentially a gift to help him out so don't count it as a loan.
Now for the late post reason. I sent the btc from my desktop at home since that is where I store it all and the internet was down until right before I had to leave for a study group. So I sent it but didnt' have time to write all this. Hopefully this clears up the question about where it came from if anyone is wondering. I believe that Shakaru is true-to his word in whatever worth my words count for.
I'm sure multiple parties are grateful for your generosity, so on behalf of all of them, THANK YOU.  |
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payb.tc
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February 27, 2012, 05:43:10 AM |
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this might make it easier to visualize too:
dollartrader 7.08%
payb.tc 49.41%
gigavps 1.44%
malevolent 1.10%
nuke 0.26%
bitfoo 3.64%
bitsinmyhead 3.29%
ermsman 6.89%
Tril 1.52%
gzup 25.36%
p.s. thanks mason.
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malevolent
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February 27, 2012, 10:02:18 PM
Last edit: February 27, 2012, 10:16:23 PM by malevolent |
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So... shakaru you're owing over $18 000.. does that mean that you were scammed for amounts totaling $18k minus that 3-5GH/s of hardware he mentioned few posts back?
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Signature space available for rent.
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shakaru
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February 27, 2012, 10:15:38 PM |
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well, $3600 went to Astana via paypal. WiseoldOwl has about 40-50% of the funds sent by Payb.tc on top of one of our contractors taking both 120btc in payment and then stealing hardware as well.
Lee Don got me via Ebay for 350gbp despite once again, proof of shipment. And then I have damaged power supplies, mobos, gpus that can no longer mine, and not to mention the small stuff like the logo we commissioned, hardware purchased on the forum that was never sent, ect. There is about 3-5ghs of working hardware. That dosent mean thats all the hardware. I would assume, there is about 2-3k of partial rigs here.
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dollartrader (OP)
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February 28, 2012, 04:16:43 AM |
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OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.
Creditors: check and verify.
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payb.tc
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February 28, 2012, 04:27:13 AM |
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OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.
Creditors: check and verify.
image appears incomplete to me... i've tried refreshing a few times... http://dollar-trader.com/shak.jpg |
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bou707
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February 28, 2012, 04:44:16 AM |
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just a reminder, you owe me $150,
my address :
1B5KoUCsZ2YNic6MxMrwbwPsuQ6Dz6ac1C
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dollartrader (OP)
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February 28, 2012, 05:10:19 AM |
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Apologies, upload didn't complete. Should be good now. OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.
Creditors: check and verify.
image appears incomplete to me... i've tried refreshing a few times... http://dollar-trader.com/shak.jpg |
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Maged
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February 28, 2012, 05:19:27 AM |
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just a reminder, you owe me $150,
my address :
1B5KoUCsZ2YNic6MxMrwbwPsuQ6Dz6ac1C
I can confirm this. |
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bitfoo
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February 28, 2012, 05:25:57 AM |
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OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.
Creditors: check and verify.
Thanks for handling this, dollartrader (and imsaguy too)! I guess you missed my earlier post: my repayment amount should be adjusted to $377 (and denominated in USD), for a partial refund of the USD I paid, instead of expected mining contract output. |
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shakaru
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February 28, 2012, 07:18:56 AM |
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Note: I just found out that I wont be moving into my new place until the 15th at the earliest. So liquidation would start on the 17th.
However, I have a somewhat good mental inventory so I will be starting prep on it all before then to get the ball rolling on this. Already made some pre-deals with full payment going to the fund. Just updating.
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dollartrader (OP)
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February 28, 2012, 08:33:55 AM |
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updated OP updated to denote the desired denomination for calculation of repayment.
Creditors: check and verify.
Thanks for handling this, dollartrader (and imsaguy too)! I guess you missed my earlier post: my repayment amount should be adjusted to $377 (and denominated in USD), for a partial refund of the USD I paid, instead of expected mining contract output. |
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Bitbird
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February 28, 2012, 03:33:37 PM |
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Hi imsaguy,
My address:
12oXQubjy62tvBr9AykDBCLE6ngfGsPW3C
I have bought 1 year 6Gh/s contracts from SDM plus 120BTC loan (to shakuru). There're some BTC had been mining/paid by the contracts, but I can't calculated the accurate amounts for now. I'm OK with letting shakuru cleaned and reported them latter. Thanks!
Bitbird
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imsaguy
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February 28, 2012, 03:43:21 PM |
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Hi imsaguy,
My address:
12oXQubjy62tvBr9AykDBCLE6ngfGsPW3C
I have bought 1 year 6Gh/s contracts from SDM plus 120BTC loan (to shakuru). There're some BTC had been mining/paid by the contracts, but I can't calculated the accurate amounts for now. I'm OK with letting shakuru cleaned and reported them latter. Thanks!
Bitbird
Its really in everyone's best interests if you take the time to calculate the amounts now and provide some documentation to that effect. |
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Bitbird
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February 28, 2012, 03:55:38 PM |
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Its really in everyone's best interests if you take the time to calculate the amounts now and provide some documentation to that effect.
OK, I'll try. And I would also like to heard about shakuru's report if he could bring up their records. But if the records was missed, the only way would be calculate by myself for sure! |
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