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October 21, 2014, 05:30:15 PM
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Still awaiting a reply from the dev regarding the 12.5+ million in unclaimed wallets from the pre-mine.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829975.0

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Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions.
August 05, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
   
Reply with quote  #371
Quote from: jmsr1978 on August 05, 2014, 07:04:43 PM
Quote from: BlockaFett on August 05, 2014, 06:49:25 PM
Quote from: popioleq on August 05, 2014, 06:38:11 PM
easy to count: (100 000 bloks x 420) + (20 502 x 210) = 42 000 000 + 4 305 420 = 46 305 420  Grin

you are right...so why does the block explorer show 68 million CANN?  http://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/

hmmmmm... what is happening? Dev please, can u explain this? I hope is a mistake

Edit: normally would be 46 312 140 right?

No problem guys and thanks, CannabisCoin released on 4/20/14 as SCRYPT Alg.  It was mined about 21.8mil  up until we decided to drop SCRYPT and go X11 Alg with KGW.  We did a hard fork and premined 1st block on X11 to do the buyback program of mined coins from old to new X11 algo,  This was all paid to the miners manually as agreed.  Noone wanted to lose their coins.

Scrypt version STOPPED @ 52080
Total coins = 21873600 mined

approx. 21882000 - was paid out.

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We're looking for a legitimate source such as the block chain information behind the coin that validates the mined coins were indeed transferred to their rightful owner.

As I see it, the block chain for this transaction was "word of mouth" from the dev team, this is not recorded and not public… and am sorry I can accept that in the crypto relm. Like I mentioned, still awaiting a reply from the dev regarding the 12.5+ million in unclaimed wallets from the pre-mine.

I'd like to note; the team and myself are willing to look into the old scypt block chain from close to or at the end of the hard fork of script algo.

We will do this to validate the coins were infact mined and transferred appropriately and sew up the missing patches from one blockchain to the other.. If anyone has this information it would be greatly appreciated.
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October 21, 2014, 05:44:25 PM
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some lucky buy orders went through at 2,500-3,000 satoshi.

next time ill know to put some low buys in just in-case. since cann was trading at 700-900 satoshi a few weeks ago, seems to be still doing well imo



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October 21, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
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Still awaiting a reply from the dev regarding the 12.5+ million in unclaimed wallets from the pre-mine.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829975.0

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Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions.
August 05, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
   
Reply with quote  #371
Quote from: jmsr1978 on August 05, 2014, 07:04:43 PM
Quote from: BlockaFett on August 05, 2014, 06:49:25 PM
Quote from: popioleq on August 05, 2014, 06:38:11 PM
easy to count: (100 000 bloks x 420) + (20 502 x 210) = 42 000 000 + 4 305 420 = 46 305 420  Grin

you are right...so why does the block explorer show 68 million CANN?  http://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/

hmmmmm... what is happening? Dev please, can u explain this? I hope is a mistake

Edit: normally would be 46 312 140 right?

No problem guys and thanks, CannabisCoin released on 4/20/14 as SCRYPT Alg.  It was mined about 21.8mil  up until we decided to drop SCRYPT and go X11 Alg with KGW.  We did a hard fork and premined 1st block on X11 to do the buyback program of mined coins from old to new X11 algo,  This was all paid to the miners manually as agreed.  Noone wanted to lose their coins.

Scrypt version STOPPED @ 52080
Total coins = 21873600 mined

approx. 21882000 - was paid out.

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We're looking for a legitimate source such as the block chain information behind the coin that validates the mined coins were indeed transferred to their rightful owner.

As I see it, the block chain for this transaction was "word of mouth" from the dev team, this is not recorded and not public… and am sorry I can accept that in the crypto relm. Like I mentioned, still awaiting a reply from the dev regarding the 12.5+ million in unclaimed wallets from the pre-mine.

I'd like to note; the team and myself are willing to look into the old scypt block chain from close to or at the end of the hard fork of script algo.

We will do this to validate the coins were infact mined and transferred appropriately and sew up the missing patches from one blockchain to the other.. If anyone has this information it would be greatly appreciated.

3rd link down for a google search on CANN explains it all.  If miners did not want to participate on the buy back its not CANNs fault.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597294.0

https://i.imgur.com/i3mIXZM.png

Couple posts down

https://i.imgur.com/4XpRP0f.png

He tried, i got my coins that i had mined with scrypt.  what more do you want?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%5BMOVED%5D%5BCANN%5D%5BX11%5D%5BOfficial%5D+CannabisCoin+Announcements&l=1
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October 21, 2014, 05:55:40 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.
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October 21, 2014, 05:59:50 PM
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Still awaiting a reply from the dev regarding the 12.5+ million in unclaimed wallets from the pre-mine.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829975.0

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Re: [ANN] CannabisCoin [CANN][X11][Official][420] Developments & Discussions.
August 05, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
   
Reply with quote  #371
Quote from: jmsr1978 on August 05, 2014, 07:04:43 PM
Quote from: BlockaFett on August 05, 2014, 06:49:25 PM
Quote from: popioleq on August 05, 2014, 06:38:11 PM
easy to count: (100 000 bloks x 420) + (20 502 x 210) = 42 000 000 + 4 305 420 = 46 305 420  Grin

you are right...so why does the block explorer show 68 million CANN?  http://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/

hmmmmm... what is happening? Dev please, can u explain this? I hope is a mistake

Edit: normally would be 46 312 140 right?

No problem guys and thanks, CannabisCoin released on 4/20/14 as SCRYPT Alg.  It was mined about 21.8mil  up until we decided to drop SCRYPT and go X11 Alg with KGW.  We did a hard fork and premined 1st block on X11 to do the buyback program of mined coins from old to new X11 algo,  This was all paid to the miners manually as agreed.  Noone wanted to lose their coins.

Scrypt version STOPPED @ 52080
Total coins = 21873600 mined

approx. 21882000 - was paid out.

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We're looking for a legitimate source such as the block chain information behind the coin that validates the mined coins were indeed transferred to their rightful owner.

As I see it, the block chain for this transaction was "word of mouth" from the dev team, this is not recorded and not public… and am sorry I can accept that in the crypto relm. Like I mentioned, still awaiting a reply from the dev regarding the 12.5+ million in unclaimed wallets from the pre-mine.

I'd like to note; the team and myself are willing to look into the old scypt block chain from close to or at the end of the hard fork of script algo.

We will do this to validate the coins were infact mined and transferred appropriately and sew up the missing patches from one blockchain to the other.. If anyone has this information it would be greatly appreciated.

3rd link down for a google search on CANN explains it all.  If miners did not want to participate on the buy back its not CANNs fault.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597294.0



Couple posts down



He tried, i got my coins that i had mined with scrypt.  what more do you want?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%5BMOVED%5D%5BCANN%5D%5BX11%5D%5BOfficial%5D+CannabisCoin+Announcements&l=1


As I stated above…

"We're looking for a legitimate source such as the block chain information behind the coin that validates the mined coins were indeed transferred to their rightful owner.

As I see it, the block chain for this transaction was "word of mouth" from the dev team, this is not recorded and not public… and am sorry I can accept that in the crypto relm. Like I mentioned, still awaiting a reply from the dev regarding the 12.5+ million in unclaimed wallets from the pre-mine.

I'd like to note; the team and myself are willing to look into the old scypt block chain from close to or at the end of the hard fork of script algo.

We will do this to validate the coins were infact mined and transferred appropriately and sew up the missing patches from one blockchain to the other.. If anyone has this information it would be greatly appreciated."
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October 21, 2014, 06:01:35 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.
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October 21, 2014, 06:06:01 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.

Word of mouth is not crypto, and certainly not blockchain technology. It's the same theory as; "if someone told you to jump off a bridge, will you jump?". We're looking for the copy of the source of the transactions as a legitimate answer.


A copy of the blockchain will certainly help clarify this for certain.
Secondly, private keys he received by the miners during the transition from scrypt to x11, that would also be helpful for accounting the totals and putting the nail in this coffin.
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October 21, 2014, 06:08:29 PM
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Interesting .. another scam .. next please?
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October 21, 2014, 06:11:58 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.

A copy of the blockchain will certainly help and add more clarity.
Secondly, private keys he received by the miners during the transition from scrypt to x11, that would also be helpful for accounting the totals and putting the nail in this coffin.

No one is going to give you private keys. You're now branded a scam artist.

The private keys would be from the older addresses to validate their existence. Dev team has them all in his hands, so what are you insinuating?

These coins are from the non-used blockchain rendered useless by your own dev, it will allow us to seek a seed for the blockchain (if any still) not scam the community.

They are certainly the nail in the coffin however not necessarily needed to complete the task.
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October 21, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.

A copy of the blockchain will certainly help and add more clarity.
Secondly, private keys he received by the miners during the transition from scrypt to x11, that would also be helpful for accounting the totals and putting the nail in this coffin.

No one is going to give you private keys. You're now branded a scam artist.

The private keys would be from the older addresses to validate their existence. Dev team has them all in his hands, so what are you insinuating?

These coins are from the non-used blockchain rendered useless by your own dev, it will allow us to seek a seed for the blockchain (if any still) not scam the community.

They are certainly the nail in the coffin however not necessarily needed to complete the task.

Yeah I realized this in retrospect.

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October 21, 2014, 06:14:09 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.

A copy of the blockchain will certainly help and add more clarity.
Secondly, private keys he received by the miners during the transition from scrypt to x11, that would also be helpful for accounting the totals and putting the nail in this coffin.

No one is going to give you private keys. You're now branded a scam artist.

The private keys would be from the older addresses to validate their existence. Dev team has them all in his hands, so what are you insinuating?

These coins are from the non-used blockchain rendered useless by your own dev, it will allow us to seek a seed for the blockchain (if any still) not scam the community.

They are certainly the nail in the coffin however not necessarily needed to complete the task.

Don't you find it odd the time stamps don't match?

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October 21, 2014, 06:20:08 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.

A copy of the blockchain will certainly help and add more clarity.
Secondly, private keys he received by the miners during the transition from scrypt to x11, that would also be helpful for accounting the totals and putting the nail in this coffin.

No one is going to give you private keys. You're now branded a scam artist.

The private keys would be from the older addresses to validate their existence. Dev team has them all in his hands, so what are you insinuating?

These coins are from the non-used blockchain rendered useless by your own dev, it will allow us to seek a seed for the blockchain (if any still) not scam the community.

They are certainly the nail in the coffin however not necessarily needed to complete the task.

Don't you find it odd the time stamps don't match?

I find many things odd about this scenario playing out with CANN, i'd just like some clarity from the Dev is all i'm seeking.

The longer this is neglected the worse it gets I see it, this should be nipped in the butt and everyone move on…

CANN Dev was the first person notified of this thread and has been aware since its creation. Im sure they are working on a reply to give us some transparency.
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October 21, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.

A copy of the blockchain will certainly help and add more clarity.
Secondly, private keys he received by the miners during the transition from scrypt to x11, that would also be helpful for accounting the totals and putting the nail in this coffin.

No one is going to give you private keys. You're now branded a scam artist.

The private keys would be from the older addresses to validate their existence. Dev team has them all in his hands, so what are you insinuating?

These coins are from the non-used blockchain rendered useless by your own dev, it will allow us to seek a seed for the blockchain (if any still) not scam the community.

They are certainly the nail in the coffin however not necessarily needed to complete the task.

Don't you find it odd the time stamps don't match?

I find many things odd about this scenario playing out with CANN, i'd just like some clarity from the Dev is all i'm seeking.

The longer this is neglected the worse it gets I see it, this should be nipped in the butt and everyone move on…

CANN Dev was the first person notified of this thread and has been aware since its creation. Im sure they are working on a reply to give us some transparency.

If you don't directly answer my question, this conversation is over.

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October 21, 2014, 06:23:07 PM
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DEV CONFIRMED ON IRC THAT THERE WAS NO HIDDEN PREMINE.

ONLY FUD FROM THE CCN (Cannacoin) GUYS FOR 100%.

THEY WILL WRITING SOON ABOUT IT,
WHEN THE MEETING IS OVER WITH THE CNN REPORTER.



The only way that the dev can confirm there was no premine is by supplying a copy of the original scrypt based blockedchain.

A copy of the blockchain will certainly help and add more clarity.
Secondly, private keys he received by the miners during the transition from scrypt to x11, that would also be helpful for accounting the totals and putting the nail in this coffin.

No one is going to give you private keys. You're now branded a scam artist.

The private keys would be from the older addresses to validate their existence. Dev team has them all in his hands, so what are you insinuating?

These coins are from the non-used blockchain rendered useless by your own dev, it will allow us to seek a seed for the blockchain (if any still) not scam the community.

They are certainly the nail in the coffin however not necessarily needed to complete the task.

Don't you find it odd the time stamps don't match?

I find many things odd about this scenario playing out with CANN, i'd just like some clarity from the Dev is all i'm seeking.

The longer this is neglected the worse it gets I see it, this should be nipped in the butt and everyone move on…

CANN Dev was the first person notified of this thread and has been aware since its creation. Im sure they are working on a reply to give us some transparency.

If you don't directly answer my question, this conversation is over.

Never mind I must be smoking crack.

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October 21, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
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Can you explain me where this 58.5 Million Cannabiscoins come from?

They where on 1 account!

This account send 117 transactions with each 500.000 Cannabiscoin to other wallets.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CYpdnaZPQA3CrwMsFC9tMoP3wLNkn3dMHL.htm

When this will be a premine that means

21.8 Millionen official Premine

+ 58.5 Million Hidden Premine

= 80.3 Million Coins Premined from total 106 Million Coins.

only a question
i found this on the irc channel
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October 21, 2014, 07:40:51 PM
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Can you explain me where this 58.5 Million Cannabiscoins come from?

They where on 1 account!

This account send 117 transactions with each 500.000 Cannabiscoin to other wallets.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CYpdnaZPQA3CrwMsFC9tMoP3wLNkn3dMHL.htm

When this will be a premine that means

21.8 Millionen official Premine

+ 58.5 Million Hidden Premine

= 80.3 Million Coins Premined from total 106 Million Coins.

only a question
i found this on the irc channel

I only see an address with 117 (small) transactions with the end total of  500,440.68010515 CANN
Don't see anything more than that, so maybe look again?
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October 21, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
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Can you explain me where this 58.5 Million Cannabiscoins come from?

They where on 1 account!

This account send 117 transactions with each 500.000 Cannabiscoin to other wallets.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CYpdnaZPQA3CrwMsFC9tMoP3wLNkn3dMHL.htm

When this will be a premine that means

21.8 Millionen official Premine

+ 58.5 Million Hidden Premine

= 80.3 Million Coins Premined from total 106 Million Coins.

only a question
i found this on the irc channel
I only see an address with (117) small transactions with the end total of  500,440.68010515 CANN
Don't see anything more than that, so maybe look again?

He is a bit mis-understood on the protocol and probably overlooking the obvious here.

Here are some details regarding the 21.8 million pre-mine.

- 25+ addresses contain 500k coins EACH directly linked to the pre-mined address and still sit untouched over 130 days, creation date aprox June 12, 2014..
 
- All 25 wallet address were payed in single payments (500k coins) in short succession, block after block as a pre-pared and planned payment. This does not indicate a number of coins rewarded to miners as the redistribution program was intended for.
 
Block #’s that publicly show this information of the wallets pushed 500k transactions: 9059,9065,9064,9070,9072,9075,9079,9083,9085,9085,9089,9089,9093,9095,9097,9099,9100,9100,9104,9104,9133,9135,9138,9138,9139,9139,9141,9144,248410,261076,261076, 246192
 
Here is block 9059 to get you started: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/block.dws?9059.htm
 
you can see these addresses in succession on the top 100 richest CANN addresses here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/#!rich (make sure to select top 100 addresses)
 
The 500k wallets start at #22 all the way to #51. These are all linked directly to the pre-mine wallet address: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/cann/address.dws?CL2VEsNv5sEvQhUaVj3x13Ch8PJGgFgCyU.htm
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October 21, 2014, 07:45:03 PM
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The only thing I find weird that they give a link to the premine info instead of just stating it on the OP.
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October 21, 2014, 07:52:21 PM
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The only thing I find weird that they give a link to the premine info instead of just stating it on the OP.
Also, why move the 21M coins like 10 times before splitting them? it's no use and makes you look like some ignorant scammer trying to hide something.

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October 21, 2014, 08:54:48 PM
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Well if this all gets cleared up we should consider leaving negative feedback to tokyopotato for spreading FUD just like first time when there was issue with wallet adresses.
He has been "solving" it by writing all over the forums that we have huge issue etc...now doing the same.

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