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Author Topic: [ANN] [PMP] PreminePlus Launch ~ New Features! ~ Oct Signup Free Distribution!  (Read 148926 times)
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February 17, 2015, 10:38:51 AM
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Is it the dev who is selling the remaining undistributed coins?
157328 coins on sell order.

I saw this also and i can't imagine that someone other than a team member can own this large amount.  Huh

thanks for being alert.
I am one of the team members, and from what I can see the officially undistributed coins are still in the cold wallet.
That is to be seen here: http://www.coinexplorers.com/address/PG7x5B7gLCkypaKFcmrBvH8QeYM9cLv74e

So far 320k coins were distributed in 4 giveaways and about 80k in the swap.
Someone indeed put ridiculously high amount of coins on sale on comkort - that doesn't sum up.  I will investigate where these coins may come from and get back to you with the details.

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February 17, 2015, 01:23:59 PM
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Is it the dev who is selling the remaining undistributed coins?
157328 coins on sell order.
Wow, this is very big amount.
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February 17, 2015, 07:10:30 PM
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Is it the dev who is selling the remaining undistributed coins?
157328 coins on sell order.

I saw this also and i can't imagine that someone other than a team member can own this large amount.  Huh

Let me be quite clear; The premine has not moved.

The Premine: http://www.coinexplorers.com/address/PG7x5B7gLCkypaKFcmrBvH8QeYM9cLv74e

I haven't sold any of my own coins, either. As far as I'm aware, none of the developers have, either. This is also way more than any developer has even received in stakes, including myself.

I'm not entirely sure what has caused this, but we're looking into it, before we jump to any conclusions here.

Rest assured though, we'll get to the bottom of this, and this matter will be taken care of. Because of the way PMP has been distributed, and because of the meticulous records that have been kept of these distributions, we have several options available to us in any sort of worst-case situation.

We're examining the blockchain to see if there are any abnormalities.

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February 17, 2015, 07:45:41 PM
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Is it the dev who is selling the remaining undistributed coins?
157328 coins on sell order.

I saw this also and i can't imagine that someone other than a team member can own this large amount.  Huh

Let me be quite clear; The premine has not moved.

The Premine: http://www.coinexplorers.com/address/PG7x5B7gLCkypaKFcmrBvH8QeYM9cLv74e

I haven't sold any of my own coins, either. As far as I'm aware, none of the developers have, either. This is also way more than any developer has even received in stakes, including myself.

I'm not entirely sure what has caused this, but we're looking into it, before we jump to any conclusions here.

Rest assured though, we'll get to the bottom of this, and this matter will be taken care of. Because of the way PMP has been distributed, and because of the meticulous records that have been kept of these distributions, we have several options available to us in any sort of worst-case situation.

We're examining the blockchain to see if there are any abnormalities.

I already requested contact with comkort exchange to clarify this issue.
Will provide updates as soon as I receive any news.

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February 17, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
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I already requested contact with comkort exchange to clarify this issue.
Will provide updates as soon as I receive any news.

Following my request, comkort has put on audit PMP trading.
The trading has been blocked until this issue is cleared.
The exchange has been very helpful and has a lot of understanding for the situation.

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February 17, 2015, 08:14:35 PM
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I already requested contact with comkort exchange to clarify this issue.
Will provide updates as soon as I receive any news.

Following my request, comkort has put on audit PMP trading.
The trading has been blocked until this issue is cleared.
The exchange has been very helpful and has a lot of understanding for the situation.
We'll see where it goes. By the way, Comkort seems to be a very nice exchange, I don't know why people avoid it.
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February 17, 2015, 08:26:16 PM
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I already requested contact with comkort exchange to clarify this issue.
Will provide updates as soon as I receive any news.

Following my request, comkort has put on audit PMP trading.
The trading has been blocked until this issue is cleared.
The exchange has been very helpful and has a lot of understanding for the situation.

Good work. I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of this soon enough.

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February 17, 2015, 09:35:27 PM
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Thanks to uki and Nullu for the quick response and reaction.

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February 18, 2015, 03:48:58 PM
Last edit: February 18, 2015, 04:11:23 PM by uki
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Is it the dev who is selling the remaining undistributed coins?
157328 coins on sell order.

Official update regarding 'big order' issue.

1) Nullu and I have looked into the wallet and blockchain and checked that indeed the total coinage has remained unchanged and this must be a wallet bug. And indeed we found that there is a bug within the wallet. The bug does not affect your coins in any case.
The bug is only affecting few output commands, and these command were used by Comkort exchange to list the orders. That is in particular (you may try it on your own wallets):
the output of the command 'getbalance' shows the balance of your wallet (you may have one or more receiving addresses) correctly.
But, if you use this command with additional arguments (it allows two arguments: addresses and number of confirmations, type 'help getbalance' to check): you get the output like:
Code:
{
 "" : 155470.64769800,
    "------" : 778.69000000,
    "------" : 327.61480000,
    "------" : 0.00000000,
    "------" : 0.00000000,
    "------" : 72.95941600,
    "------" : 410.46565400,
    "------" : 0.20000000,
    "------" : 641.36072400
}

with the first line with incorrect output causing the problem (note: each line corresponds to one receiving address).
Another command that is affected that we are aware of is the command 'listaccounts'. We will check all of them, but you may also report it here.

2) Nullu will look on the code this weekend and will try to provide a fix for that.

3) In the meantime the trading on Comkort has resumed as, I repeat, this bug does not affect the total number of coins in the circulation.
We apologise Comkort exchange for any inconvenience that may have caused (necessity of manual removal of this 'ghost order') and as I said we are working on the fix that we will provide as soon as possible.

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February 18, 2015, 04:21:03 PM
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Is it the dev who is selling the remaining undistributed coins?
157328 coins on sell order.

Official update regarding 'big order' issue.

1) Nullu and I have looked into the wallet and blockchain and checked that indeed the total coinage has remained unchanged and this must be a wallet bug. And indeed we found that there is a bug within the wallet. The bug does not affect your coins in any case.
The bug is only affecting few output commands, and these command were used by Comkort exchange to list the orders. That is in particular (you may try it on your own wallets):
the output of the command 'getbalance' shows the balance of your wallet (you may have one or more receiving addresses) correctly.
But, if you use this command with additional arguments (it allows two arguments: addresses and number of confirmations, type 'help getbalance' to check): you get the output like:
Code:
{
 "" : 155470.64769800,
    "------" : 778.69000000,
    "------" : 327.61480000,
    "------" : 0.00000000,
    "------" : 0.00000000,
    "------" : 72.95941600,
    "------" : 410.46565400,
    "------" : 0.20000000,
    "------" : 641.36072400
}

with the first line with incorrect output causing the problem (note: each line corresponds to one receiving address).
Another command that is affected that we are aware of is the command 'listaccounts'. We will check all of them, but you may also report it here.

2) Nullu will look on the code this weekend and will try to provide a fix for that.

3) In the meantime the trading on Comkort has resumed as, I repeat, this bug does not affect the total number of coins in the circulation.
We apologise Comkort exchange for any inconvenience that may have caused (necessity of manual removal of this 'ghost order') and as I said we are working on the fix that we will provide as soon as possible.

If its affecting the coins then it will be a problem , as now its not.
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February 18, 2015, 04:23:34 PM
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Is it the dev who is selling the remaining undistributed coins?
157328 coins on sell order.

Official update regarding 'big order' issue.

1) Nullu and I have looked into the wallet and blockchain and checked that indeed the total coinage has remained unchanged and this must be a wallet bug. And indeed we found that there is a bug within the wallet. The bug does not affect your coins in any case.
The bug is only affecting few output commands, and these command were used by Comkort exchange to list the orders. That is in particular (you may try it on your own wallets):
the output of the command 'getbalance' shows the balance of your wallet (you may have one or more receiving addresses) correctly.
But, if you use this command with additional arguments (it allows two arguments: addresses and number of confirmations, type 'help getbalance' to check): you get the output like:
Code:
{
 "" : 155470.64769800,
    "------" : 778.69000000,
    "------" : 327.61480000,
    "------" : 0.00000000,
    "------" : 0.00000000,
    "------" : 72.95941600,
    "------" : 410.46565400,
    "------" : 0.20000000,
    "------" : 641.36072400
}

with the first line with incorrect output causing the problem (note: each line corresponds to one receiving address).
Another command that is affected that we are aware of is the command 'listaccounts'. We will check all of them, but you may also report it here.

2) Nullu will look on the code this weekend and will try to provide a fix for that.

3) In the meantime the trading on Comkort has resumed as, I repeat, this bug does not affect the total number of coins in the circulation.
We apologise Comkort exchange for any inconvenience that may have caused (necessity of manual removal of this 'ghost order') and as I said we are working on the fix that we will provide as soon as possible.

I understand that can cause the wrong balance to be shown but how does that produce an exchange to show a wrong sell order?

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February 18, 2015, 04:46:05 PM
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I understand that can cause the wrong balance to be shown but how does that produce an exchange to show a wrong sell order?
It may be the case when the exchange is using any of the affected output commands when placing the order.

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February 18, 2015, 04:50:15 PM
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I understand that can cause the wrong balance to be shown but how does that produce an exchange to show a wrong sell order?
It may be the case when the exchange is using any of the affected output commands when placing the order.

But the exchange will create an order only on a user's request, not on its own. It will use those commands to verify the user has enough balance to place the order but it won't start by itself.
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February 18, 2015, 04:52:46 PM
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Hi guys!

Sell order was not wrong. We have bot that is selling extra coins we have on our wallet. In PMP case it was sell order for PoS coins. Bot detected PoS transactions and free coins and created sell order.
So now we know, that there are no extra coins and real balance is much more lower. We also detected the same problem for 8 other wallets.

User balances are not affected, we also store all information about transactions in DB and regulary check it.

(c) Comkort

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February 18, 2015, 04:58:13 PM
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Hi guys!

Sell order was not wrong. We have bot that is selling extra coins we have on our wallet. In PMP case it was sell order for PoS coins. Bot detected PoS transactions and free coins and created sell order.
So now we know, that there are no extra coins and real balance is much more lower. We also detected the same problem for 8 other wallets.

User balances are not affected, we also store all information about transactions in DB and regulary check it.

(c) Comkort

Thanks I understand now.
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February 18, 2015, 05:02:00 PM
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Hi guys!

Sell order was not wrong. We have bot that is selling extra coins we have on our wallet. In PMP case it was sell order for PoS coins. Bot detected PoS transactions and free coins and created sell order.
So now we know, that there are no extra coins and real balance is much more lower. We also detected the same problem for 8 other wallets.

User balances are not affected, we also store all information about transactions in DB and regulary check it.

(c) Comkort
Thanks johnywalker for additional clarification. As I said, Nullu will look into the wallet this weekend to see if we can correct that.

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February 19, 2015, 09:01:54 AM
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Finally I have some good news for PMP holders. The next giveaway (5th out of 6 planned) will be processed this weekend.
Expect new coins in your wallets soon.

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February 19, 2015, 09:06:19 AM
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Finally I have some good news for PMP holders. The next giveaway (5th out of 6 planned) will be processed this weekend.
Expect new coins in your wallets soon.
Thanks for the update.
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February 19, 2015, 09:44:44 PM
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Finally I have some good news for PMP holders. The next giveaway (5th out of 6 planned) will be processed this weekend.
Expect new coins in your wallets soon.

Too late to sign up for it?
I've sent a pm to PMPGiveAway with my address.
For the giveaway that will be sent this weekend it is already too late. But there is still one more giveaway to be done, and you will get the coins then.

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February 20, 2015, 10:13:17 AM
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Finally I have some good news for PMP holders. The next giveaway (5th out of 6 planned) will be processed this weekend.
Expect new coins in your wallets soon.

The team has planned a new thread with the actual roadmap? After the last giveaway?
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