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October 20, 2012, 05:32:47 AM
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@Garr255, I know you cannot pay the divs via GLBSE, but could you maybe publish every weekend what should have been paid for the week?
You know, so we would eventually know how much to claim at the end... Smiley

Or has it already been being published, in some place I missed?

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@Garr255, I know you cannot pay the divs via GLBSE, but could you maybe publish every weekend what should have been paid for the week?
You know, so we would eventually know how much to claim at the end... Smiley

Or has it already been being published, in some place I missed?

You mean how many bitcoins have been accumulating since GLBSE's closure or the amount paid before GLBSE closed?

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@Garr255, I know you cannot pay the divs via GLBSE, but could you maybe publish every weekend what should have been paid for the week?
You know, so we would eventually know how much to claim at the end... Smiley

Or has it already been being published, in some place I missed?

You mean how many bitcoins have been accumulating since GLBSE's closure or the amount paid before GLBSE closed?
Yes - that is what I mean.

I would be expecting the info to be updated at this page, in the Dividends section.

But the last record is from 9.29.2012

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October 20, 2012, 07:26:00 AM
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I just made an update to that page (top of dividends section) containing the amount of coins mined.

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Just got off the phone with James, he said he's not going to be producing trading history for anyone. As for releasing shareholder data, he said that he's asking for the extra coins his script sent out to be returned, and it looks like he won't be releasing shareholder data to issuers until that happens. He said about 3/4 of the extra coins have been returned.

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Just got off the phone with James, he said he's not going to be producing trading history for anyone. As for releasing shareholder data, he said that he's asking for the extra coins his script sent out to be returned, and it looks like he won't be releasing shareholder data to issuers until that happens. He said about 3/4 of the extra coins have been returned.

He expects to get 100% of the extra coins back and until then he won't release shareholder data to issuers?

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Just got off the phone with James, he said he's not going to be producing trading history for anyone. As for releasing shareholder data, he said that he's asking for the extra coins his script sent out to be returned, and it looks like he won't be releasing shareholder data to issuers until that happens. He said about 3/4 of the extra coins have been returned.

Is he announcing this somewhere?  I feel like I missed an announcement or something.

If I'm understanding you correctly, his script screwed up, paid out too much, and now he's emailed those people and asked for the coins back?

I think Nefario's gone off the deep end.  Sad

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Just got off the phone with James, he said he's not going to be producing trading history for anyone. As for releasing shareholder data, he said that he's asking for the extra coins his script sent out to be returned, and it looks like he won't be releasing shareholder data to issuers until that happens. He said about 3/4 of the extra coins have been returned.

Is he announcing this somewhere?  I feel like I missed an announcement or something.

If I'm understanding you correctly, his script screwed up, paid out too much, and now he's emailed those people and asked for the coins back?

I think Nefario's gone off the deep end.  Sad

He expects to get 100% of the extra coins back and until then he won't release shareholder data to issuers?

Exactly :/

And he's told me he won't be posting on the forum until everything cools down.

He's extremely stressed, as anyone in that situation would be. He definitely brought most of this upon himself through the (terribly ridiculous) way he's shutting down the exchange.

If any of you guys have questions, he picks up my calls so let me know. (Its amazing how far being nice gets you.)

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Just got off the phone with James, he said he's not going to be producing trading history for anyone. As for releasing shareholder data, he said that he's asking for the extra coins his script sent out to be returned, and it looks like he won't be releasing shareholder data to issuers until that happens. He said about 3/4 of the extra coins have been returned.

Is he announcing this somewhere?  I feel like I missed an announcement or something.

If I'm understanding you correctly, his script screwed up, paid out too much, and now he's emailed those people and asked for the coins back?

I think Nefario's gone off the deep end.  Sad

He expects to get 100% of the extra coins back and until then he won't release shareholder data to issuers?

Exactly :/

And he's told me he won't be posting on the forum until everything cools down.

He's extremely stressed, as anyone in that situation would be. He definitely brought most of this upon himself through the (terribly ridiculous) way he's shutting down the exchange.

If any of you guys have questions, he picks up my calls so let me know. (Its amazing how far being nice gets you.)

So it has been over 4 weeks since this last post.  Any hope left in getting the asset records?  Also, was Cognitive exposed to PatrickHarnett?  I just read he got a scammer tag for mishandling depositor funds.

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November 17, 2012, 09:11:42 PM
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So it has been over 4 weeks since this last post.  Any hope left in getting the asset records?  Also, was Cognitive exposed to PatrickHarnett?  I just read he got a scammer tag for mishandling depositor funds.

I've been talking to Nefario about every seven days, and he keeps saying things similar to "working on it" and "haven't gotten around to it yet". Unfortunately, it seems that getting shareholder data published isn't a high priority of his. I say if he doesn't have it out in another month then I'll start losing hope... In the case of him not ever giving shareholder data, what do you, shareholders, recommend we do?

Yes, Cognitive has BTC100 deposited with PatrickHarnett, as specified in the motion:
The motion has passed!

Details here: https://glbse.com/vote/view/103

BTC100 will be deposited with Patrick shortly.

I have contacted PatrickHarnett for a withdrawal even though he's been issued the scammer tag.

Although I'm not at fault for either of these mishaps, I apologize for what's happening with our company right now. This just really sucks.

Our rigs are still mining, and coins are being stockpiled.

Good luck everyone, we really need some right now...
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November 17, 2012, 10:49:58 PM
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Is there somewhere to get all of the trade history for GLBSE and figure out who owned what shares?  I know how many shares I owned but no point in telling anyone without proof.
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November 18, 2012, 06:33:28 AM
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Is there somewhere to get all of the trade history for GLBSE and figure out who owned what shares?  I know how many shares I owned but no point in telling anyone without proof.

Yes I made a post that links to all the history.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117491.0

I don't know what good that will do.  Since GLBSE never sent confirmation emails about the transaction taking place there is no direct proof of who bought what.

Maybe Cognitive could start setting up its own claims process that has the history of trades and the account history from others if they recorded it or saved it from GLBSE.  I got lucky and saved my GLBSE history on October 2, but others might not be as fortunate.

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November 18, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
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In the case of him not ever giving shareholder data, what do you, shareholders, recommend we do?

I have a screencapture of my GLBSE portfolio made on September 19, a few days before the closing. Obviously I am available to share it with the Cognitive issuer if it can help. I just did it with the YABMC issuer and he appreciated it.
If most of the other investors have screencaps or downloaded their trading history a short while before the closing we could try to sort things out this way.

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I have screen capture from right before the closing and a .csv file as well. 

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I have screen capture from right before the closing and a .csv file as well.  

I think the only thing that would be informative is the csv file as it contains a lot of information proving when and what trades occurred and who actually owns the account.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126673.0 for a possible claims process.

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I have screen capture from right before the closing and a .csv file as well.  

I think the only thing that would be informative is the csv file as it contains a lot of information proving when and what trades occurred and who actually owns the account.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126673.0 for a possible claims process.

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Yes. Good ideas. Me too have my .csv trade history file downloaded on September 18.
Garr, what do you say? Should we proceed with this?

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November 19, 2012, 06:07:05 PM
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It doesn't hurt to collect this information I suppose, but I'd prefer to wait 3-6 months before acting on it.  I know I had cognitive shares, but I have no idea how many.  I had lots of standing orders when the shutdown happened, and based solely on what BTC was returned to me, I know a bunch of them went through right before the shutdown.  In fact, using the twitter feed I was able to guess at several of my last minute purchases.  A lot of them were my lowball standing orders, which leads me to believe some people were 'in the know' about the impending doom.  Wink

Cheers.

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November 19, 2012, 08:40:30 PM
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Getting the popcorn ready for the spectacular failure of attempts to distribute shares by "claims" which can't in any way be proven. That should provide sufficient drama supplies to last us at the very least through the winter.

Hey everyone,

I am also becoming more skeptical of Nefarious (get the pun?) activities by the minute... so, as always, I'm open to all suggestions.

Stochastic, your plan would work well if all humans were genuine, honest people, but unfortunately that is not so. If we can find a way to link GLBSE history with blockchain data, this would be a good solution only for people who have a recent backup. I'm going to make the fair assumption that most people do not.

Regardless, we may as well start gathering data; it can't hurt. So please send everything you have to claims@cognitivemining.com whether it be a highly modifiable spreadsheet or a highly modifiable screenshot.
Please include your GLBSE username, email associated with GLBSE, (estimated) number of shares owned, and a bitcoin address.

Please don't consider my attitude on the matter pessimistic, I'm trying to be a realist. We simply will not be able to recover all shareholder data via the mentioned methods, which will probably be legally unfair. Sure you could argue that you performed your due diligence and others did not, but others will always try to combat this. I'll be asking around for information regarding this. I want to solve this problem in the best interest of everyone involved, obviously.

Sorry if this post is pretty scrambled, I'm thinking about quite a few things right now...

Best,
Garrett

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Getting the popcorn ready for the spectacular failure of attempts to distribute shares by "claims" which can't in any way be proven. That should provide sufficient drama supplies to last us at the very least through the winter.

Hey everyone,

I am also becoming more skeptical of Nefarious (get the pun?) activities by the minute... so, as always, I'm open to all suggestions.

Stochastic, your plan would work well if all humans were genuine, honest people, but unfortunately that is not so. If we can find a way to link GLBSE history with blockchain data, this would be a good solution only for people who have a recent backup. I'm going to make the fair assumption that most people do not.

Regardless, we may as well start gathering data; it can't hurt. So please send everything you have to claims@cognitivemining.com whether it be a highly modifiable spreadsheet or a highly modifiable screenshot.
Please include your GLBSE username, email associated with GLBSE, (estimated) number of shares owned, and a bitcoin address.

Please don't consider my attitude on the matter pessimistic, I'm trying to be a realist. We simply will not be able to recover all shareholder data via the mentioned methods, which will probably be legally unfair. Sure you could argue that you performed your due diligence and others did not, but others will always try to combat this. I'll be asking around for information regarding this. I want to solve this problem in the best interest of everyone involved, obviously.

Sorry if this post is pretty scrambled, I'm thinking about quite a few things right now...

Best,
Garrett

We can't punish everyone because some people may be dishonest.  The recover process has to happens sometime and somehow.

Is there a PGP key we can encrypt our data with so the information is for your eyes only?

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