Palestinian boy Mohammed Abu Khdeir burned alive by Israeli extremists

[keyscore44]

the murderous terrorists strike again....

Mohamed Abu Khdeir, the Palestinian teenager who was kidnapped and murdered on Wednesday in a suspected revenge killing by Israeli extremists, was burned alive after suffering a head injury, the Palestinian attorney general has claimed. The allegation is said to be based on initial postmortem findings that discovered soot deposits in his lungs suggesting he was still breathing when he was set on fire. The shocking details, if confirmed, would seem likely to exacerbate already toxic tensions.

The reports emerged as Egypt tried to conclude a ceasefire deal between Hamas in Gaza and Israel. But it appeared not to have taken hold, with fresh reports of rocket fire into Israel from the coastal strip.

The murder of 17-year-old Khdeir, who was buried on Friday in a highly charged funeral after his abduction outside a mosque next to his home in the early hours of Wednesday morning, has prompted days of serious rioting in Palestinian neighbourhoods of East Jerusalem, which then spread to Israeli-Arab towns.

"The direct cause of death was burns as a result of fire and its complications," attorney general Mohammed al-A'wewy told the Palestinian official news agency, Wafa, late on Friday. Israeli officials have yet to release their findings from the postmortem on the body.

Tensions have risen after three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped on 12 June and later found dead in the occupied West Bank. That has been followed by an outbreak of racist incitement on Israeli social media sites, street attacks and Khdeir's murder, a suspected revenge attack. Saber al-Aloul, director of the Palestinian forensic institute, attended the postmortem carried out by Israeli doctors in Tel Aviv. A'wewy said Aloul had reported that fire-dust material had been found in Khdeir's respiratory canal, which meant "the boy had inhaled this material while he was burned alive". Burns covered 90% of his body.

The discovery of the youth's body in a forest on the outskirts of Jerusalem has prompted the worst riots in the holy city in recent memory. The violence spread to northern Arab towns on Saturday morning, an Israeli police spokeswoman, Luba Samri, said. Protesters there threw stones at passing cars, burned tyres and hurled fire bombs at police, who responded with teargas and stun grenades. More than 20 people were arrested.

At Khdeir's funeral, furious Palestinians chanted "Intifada! Intifada!", calling for a new uprising against Israel. They clashed with Israeli police in one of the most highly charged displays of enmity in Jerusalem in years.

Palestinian officials trying to calm tensions have said they would prevent any intifada, or uprising, and seek a solution to the crisis that began when the three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped.

The discovery of the young Israelis' bodies on Monday prompted an outpouring of national grief in Israel.

In a separate incident, it was claimed by relatives that Abu Khdeir's 15-year-old cousin, Tariq, a US citizen who goes to school in Florida, was beaten by police during clashes on Thursday ahead of the funeral. The American consulate had no immediate comment on the report. His parents, Suha and Salah, said Tariq was detained but had been treated at an Israeli hospital.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive

[bryant.coleman]

What about the murder of the three Israeli teenagers? Why you were not condemning that incident? The murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was extremely unfortunate. But the incident which provoked this murder should not be forgotten.

[gavgav]

What about the murder of the three Israeli teenagers? Why you were not condemning that incident? The murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was extremely unfortunate. But the incident which provoked this murder should not be forgotten.

Well said!

[Charlie Prime]

What about the murder of the three Israeli teenagers? Why you were not condemning that incident? The murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was extremely unfortunate. But the incident which provoked this murder should not be forgotten.

Let's count up who has murdered the most teenagers.

Your friend Israel, that's who.

[beetcoin]

What about the murder of the three Israeli teenagers? Why you were not condemning that incident? The murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was extremely unfortunate. But the incident which provoked this murder should not be forgotten.

Let's count up who has murdered the most teenagers.

Your friend Israel, that's who.

it's not just that - it's how the israelis gentrify the palestinians. i don't 100% support the palestinians, as both sides have done bad.. but i don't see how someone can honestly say that palestinians screw the israelis over more than vice versa.

[tvbcof]

What about the murder of the three Israeli teenagers? Why you were not condemning that incident? The murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was extremely unfortunate. But the incident which provoked this murder should not be forgotten.

Let's count up who has murdered the most teenagers.

Your friend Israel, that's who.

it's not just that - it's how the israelis gentrify the palestinians. i don't 100% support the palestinians, as both sides have done bad.. but i don't see how someone can honestly say that palestinians screw the israelis over more than vice versa.

Obviously in a conflict such as this there are atrocities on all sides.  By nature I am prone to give the underdogs a bit more slack.  Here we have a well funded and organized security state with nuclear weapons and high levels of funding (complements of my tax dollars) trying to colonize areas and drive out individuals on the basis of ethnic identity.  These people being driven off and having their homes razed and farms destroyed are often armed with nothing more than slingshots.  Litterally!  By nature I'm definitely prone to sympathize with the those in the position of the Palestinians, and that is even more the case after analyzing the policies of the government and the attitudes of the settlers.

Some of the settlers really do seem to be among the most detestable people ever in my opinion.  Burning the Khdeir kid alive did nothing to dissuade me of that contention (though I'll reserve judgement on this case until the facts are in.)  OTOH, the beating of Khdeir's American cousin by the Israeli security forces is pretty clear.  Whether or not they were trying to kill the kid, it looks like it could easily have resulted in his death.  How a person could watch several grown men working on behalf of the government kicking and stomping an unconscious 15 year old and continue to support Israel as some sort of a beacon of good in the Middle East is beyond me.  Of course it will be written off as 'a few bad apples', but then a whole lot of Palestinians seem to be turning up dead.

[beetcoin]

What about the murder of the three Israeli teenagers? Why you were not condemning that incident? The murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was extremely unfortunate. But the incident which provoked this murder should not be forgotten.

Let's count up who has murdered the most teenagers.

Your friend Israel, that's who.

it's not just that - it's how the israelis gentrify the palestinians. i don't 100% support the palestinians, as both sides have done bad.. but i don't see how someone can honestly say that palestinians screw the israelis over more than vice versa.

Obviously in a conflict such as this there are atrocities on all sides.  By nature I am prone to give the underdogs a bit more slack.  Here we have a well funded and organized security state with nuclear weapons and high levels of funding (complements of my tax dollars) trying to colonize areas and drive out individuals on the basis of ethnic identity.  These people being driven off and having their homes razed and farms destroyed are often armed with nothing more than slingshots.  Litterally!  By nature I'm definitely prone to sympathize with the those in the position of the Palestinians, and that is even more the case after analyzing the policies of the government and the attitudes of the settlers.

Some of the settlers really do seem to be among the most detestable people ever in my opinion.  Burning the Khdeir kid alive did nothing to dissuade me of that contention (though I'll reserve judgement on this case until the facts are in.)  OTOH, the beating of Khdeir's American cousin by the Israeli security forces is pretty clear.  Whether or not they were trying to kill the kid, it looks like it could easily have resulted in his death.  How a person could watch several grown men working on behalf of the government kicking and stomping an unconscious 15 year old and continue to support Israel as some sort of a beacon of good in the Middle East is beyond me.  Of course it will be written off as 'a few bad apples', but then a whole lot of Palestinians seem to be turning up dead.

i'm not the most knowledgeable on the matter, so i may be wrong.. but it seems like the palestinians have retaliated with extremism because they were stripped of their sovereignty and dignity. israel has so much control of the resources and power in the region that they just get royally screwed. i mean, there's a wall built just to keep them out.

[Honeypot]

3 Jewish teenage boys from rabbi school gets murdered by hamas and world makes jokes.

1 Palestinian gets offed by small vigilante justice gone wrong and all of a sudden it's worth more of an issue.

As an impartial observer with ties to neither side by any stretch of imagination, it's obvious the left and gullible are being manipulated or otherwise being fucking pathetic enough to think the justice is with these palestinians.

Are we supposed to feel bad for people who have continuously allowed themselves to be used by arab interests and willingly shout genocide of israel every other day?

[TECSHARE]

3 Jewish teenage boys from rabbi school gets murdered by hamas and world makes jokes.

1 Palestinian gets offed by small vigilante justice gone wrong and all of a sudden it's worth more of an issue.

As an impartial observer with ties to neither side by any stretch of imagination, it's obvious the left and gullible are being manipulated or otherwise being fucking pathetic enough to think the justice is with these palestinians.

Are we supposed to feel bad for people who have continuously allowed themselves to be used by arab interests and willingly shout genocide of israel every other day?

Maybe no one takes Israel seriously because they commit genocide of Palestinians because God told them to. Both sides are clearly responsible for wrongdoing, but Israel takes far too much joy in exterminating and stealing land from the Palestinian people. The actions of other arab countries doesn't give them a right to exterminate Palestinians. I don't care who you support, if your justification is "because God said so" you have no moral authority.

[armin22]

3 Jewish teenage boys from rabbi school gets murdered by hamas and world makes jokes.

1 Palestinian gets offed by small vigilante justice gone wrong and all of a sudden it's worth more of an issue.

As an impartial observer with ties to neither side by any stretch of imagination, it's obvious the left and gullible are being manipulated or otherwise being fucking pathetic enough to think the justice is with these palestinians.

Are we supposed to feel bad for people who have continuously allowed themselves to be used by arab interests and willingly shout genocide of israel every other day?

Maybe no one takes Israel seriously because they commit genocide of Palestinians because God told them to. Both sides are clearly responsible for wrongdoing, but Israel takes far too much joy in exterminating and stealing land from the Palestinian people. The actions of other arab countries doesn't give them a right to exterminate Palestinians. I don't care who you support, if your justification is "because God said so" you have no moral authority.

And who could forget, Israel doesn't forget to turn their children into fucking shitheads too.

[Honeypot]

3 Jewish teenage boys from rabbi school gets murdered by hamas and world makes jokes.

1 Palestinian gets offed by small vigilante justice gone wrong and all of a sudden it's worth more of an issue.

As an impartial observer with ties to neither side by any stretch of imagination, it's obvious the left and gullible are being manipulated or otherwise being fucking pathetic enough to think the justice is with these palestinians.

Are we supposed to feel bad for people who have continuously allowed themselves to be used by arab interests and willingly shout genocide of israel every other day?

Maybe no one takes Israel seriously because they commit genocide of Palestinians because God told them to. Both sides are clearly responsible for wrongdoing, but Israel takes far too much joy in exterminating and stealing land from the Palestinian people. The actions of other arab countries doesn't give them a right to exterminate Palestinians. I don't care who you support, if your justification is "because God said so" you have no moral authority.

LOL

Who screams god is great and death to israel every other friday?

Sucks to be dealt what you try to deal ain't it?

It seems trying to demonize the people whose lands were conveniently stolen and squatted on for almost 2000 years is the in thing to do now (conveniently romans did their dirty work for them, and if building a golden vain monument to your religion marks your holy site, then let's see about that golden buddist statue temple at mecca). You want to talk history, why not address all the parts which give incredible amount of justification to the jews (by your own infantile and slanted standards no less), or is that too inconvenient?

 If these so called palestinians had half the justification as much as israelites they will be screaming about holy war right about now (fact that they are still screaming it now not withstanding).

You want to be treated racially and start an ethnic war? You got one. Sounds like these thieves and whores are getting what's coming to them.

These cheeky thieves are all too happy to receive israelite wages and benefits of jewish state that punches well above its weight while the rest of the arab world pours what's left of oil money to pockets of few and continuously institute racial and religious policies that selectively chooses which standards they want to enforce.

Selective shit only works when someone else is stupid enough to believe it. Being a contrarian dip shit doesn't fly for issues like these.

Get your head out of your ass and don't even try to think you know anything by jumping out of the frying pan into the fire (all dim witted liberal former pro-israel now trying to be anti israel).

[TECSHARE]

I don't care who you support, if your justification is "because God said so" you have no moral authority.

I think you have a reading comprehension problem, or perhaps you are willfully ignorant. Israel has more than overused its victim card, and the world sees how it acts toward Palestine and no longer believes any statements from Israel, because more often than not they tend to be composed of racism, hatred, and lies. Your vitriolic overactive response is evidence of this. Isreal's own crimes are simply starting to come home to roost, and in response Isreal gets more and more extremist. No one believes a multimillennial old claim to land is justification for genocide but Israel.

[sana8410]

Both entities are equally responsible for all these killings. No one can say its just Israel or just Palestine. You can try but it doesnt fly. You shoot rockets you will get repreisals. You bomb people you will get rockets. In no certain order. This is simply tit for tat and its turning the world off to both of them. The constant ebb and flow of death and injury proves neither should have the right to exist.
No christian in good conscious should be supporting Israel No muslim should be supporting Palestine.

At the same time we know neither governing body performed either of these killings. But they do perform the reactions.
Its time to turn that part of the world, Palestine, the Gaza and Israel into a world vacation spot. Populated only by people who work there.

[zolace]

This is a strange case that falls outside anything in this already brutal conflict.  Jewish settlers have been known to attack Palestinians but not like this. Maybe it is wise to wait a bit and see what turns up.  Quick assumptions are dangerous.

[umair127]

Until the perpetrators are arrested we do not know. The fact that one person among the police speculates it was a revenge killing does not establish that as a fact. It is quite possible that it was revenge, and it is quite possible it was something else entirely.

[Rigon]

Officials have indeed said that the autopsy indicates burning alive. They have not said that this was a revenge killing. An alternate explanation is that he was gay and killed for his relationship with a neighbor's son.

[kuroman]

What about the murder of the three Israeli teenagers? Why you were not condemning that incident? The murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir was extremely unfortunate. But the incident which provoked this murder should not be forgotten.

Both should be condemned but what I find problematic here is the double standards, Palestinians teens dies everyday and there is no coverage what so ever about it usually, and when the 3 Israelis were kidnapped they were the headlines of every newspaper at least here in west, Mahmoud Abbas the Palestinian prime minister condemned the kidnapping instantly and while it's still under investigation (we don't know who kidnapped them). The Palestinian teen was filmed when he was kidnapped, and he was burned alive from the outside and the inside according to the autopsy. Did the Natanyaho say anything about it? nope more air strikes on Gaza, and more military wiping was made, heck the cousin of the murdered was savagely attacked by a couple of Israeli soldiers and almost killed (filmed) not only that but he was fined and in under house jail

[Honeypot]

It seems trying to demonize the people whose lands were conveniently stolen and squatted on for almost 2000 years is the in thing to do now.

I don't buy the argument that anyone has a claim to land that their distant ancestors used to own. Yes, ANCIENT Israeli jews were driven out of their lands by powerful conquerors, and that was wrong, but the Palestinians who lived there at the start of the 20th century had no part in it. They were ruled over by the Ottomans, and then by my country's empire who gave huge amounts of their land to Jewish people, many of whom had never set foot in Israel. What really matters is not whose ancestors used to live where 2000 years ago, but who lives where NOW. It is wrong to drive a people out of the homes in which they grew up, no matter what their ancestors did.

The truth is that Israel has repeatedly made border agreements only to break them by building illegal settlements in agreed Palestinian land and defending them with force. Israel is therefore clearly in the wrong when it comes to land issues, and while it's true that Israeli citizens are under threat of violence from terrorists, the Israeli government retaliates to every incident with brutal, disproportionate violence against suspects, their families, and anyone who gets in their way. Israel is the wealthiest, most powerful, and best armed state in the region and is under no realistic existential threat - unlike Palestine.

Want to use history, history will fuck you.

You get dealt what you try to deal, bitch.

[kuroman]

It seems trying to demonize the people whose lands were conveniently stolen and squatted on for almost 2000 years is the in thing to do now.

I don't buy the argument that anyone has a claim to land that their distant ancestors used to own. Yes, ANCIENT Israeli jews were driven out of their lands by powerful conquerors, and that was wrong, but the Palestinians who lived there at the start of the 20th century had no part in it. They were ruled over by the Ottomans, and then by my country's empire who gave huge amounts of their land to Jewish people, many of whom had never set foot in Israel. What really matters is not whose ancestors used to live where 2000 years ago, but who lives where NOW. It is wrong to drive a people out of the homes in which they grew up, no matter what their ancestors did.

The truth is that Israel has repeatedly made border agreements only to break them by building illegal settlements in agreed Palestinian land and defending them with force. Israel is therefore clearly in the wrong when it comes to land issues, and while it's true that Israeli citizens are under threat of violence from terrorists, the Israeli government retaliates to every incident with brutal, disproportionate violence against suspects, their families, and anyone who gets in their way. Israel is the wealthiest, most powerful, and best armed state in the region and is under no realistic existential threat - unlike Palestine.

Want to use history, history will fuck you.

You get dealt what you try to deal, bitch.

so much arguments in your post that no one would dare to answer it back.....no seriously chill and try to argument with facts

[u9y42]

It seems trying to demonize the people whose lands were conveniently stolen and squatted on for almost 2000 years is the in thing to do now.

I don't buy the argument that anyone has a claim to land that their distant ancestors used to own. Yes, ANCIENT Israeli jews were driven out of their lands by powerful conquerors, and that was wrong, but the Palestinians who lived there at the start of the 20th century had no part in it. They were ruled over by the Ottomans, and then by my country's empire who gave huge amounts of their land to Jewish people, many of whom had never set foot in Israel. What really matters is not whose ancestors used to live where 2000 years ago, but who lives where NOW. It is wrong to drive a people out of the homes in which they grew up, no matter what their ancestors did.

The truth is that Israel has repeatedly made border agreements only to break them by building illegal settlements in agreed Palestinian land and defending them with force. Israel is therefore clearly in the wrong when it comes to land issues, and while it's true that Israeli citizens are under threat of violence from terrorists, the Israeli government retaliates to every incident with brutal, disproportionate violence against suspects, their families, and anyone who gets in their way. Israel is the wealthiest, most powerful, and best armed state in the region and is under no realistic existential threat - unlike Palestine.

Want to use history, history will fuck you.

You get dealt what you try to deal, bitch.

So, I guess I was wasting my time yesterday trying to reason with you; you've obviously learned nothing from it, and instead, resort to name calling now...