skidog
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November 05, 2014, 06:10:49 PM |
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Remember to put coins in your wallet. The POS works great.
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Strugg
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November 05, 2014, 06:13:42 PM |
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Remember to put coins in your wallet. The POS works great.
Exactly, it also always makes the network stronger. Staking's great, I don't see reason to keep Your coins on the exchanges all the time So let's move your coins to the wallet bros!
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fuze0000
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November 05, 2014, 07:00:22 PM |
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Stability is half of the battle. Navajocoin just needs to become truly anonymous and I see it reaching $1.00 USD to $10.00 USD per nav.
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paycum
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November 05, 2014, 07:11:14 PM |
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Still no Anon and all this fuss over an 'anon chat' to distract the fan boys.
No worries, your patience is tested a bit but it will come soon. The basics are almost ready now. After that anon can be ready/launched.
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gorian
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November 05, 2014, 08:28:15 PM |
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Remember to put coins in your wallet. The POS works great.
Exactly, it also always makes the network stronger. Staking's great, I don't see reason to keep Your coins on the exchanges all the time So let's move your coins to the wallet bros! I see a reason, and it is that I will get less coins staking
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pakage
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November 05, 2014, 08:38:26 PM |
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muchCoinSoCurrency39 @hashforce382: I need a whitepaper, gib whitepaper! XD
can someone explain this to me
Hi Hashforce, "gib" is the german imperativ from "geben" / give. In englisch it is like he asks you do give him the whitepaper... send him the Link Haha, didn't know it was german, it's often used in polandball comics and it sounds funny in an english phrase. Anyway I'm keeping a list of all anonymization techniques ( here, if you're curious) I'll definitely add navajo (for the time being I added it to my portfolio ). Could you confirm/deny a few points? (stuff I didn't understand from the whitepaper): 1) the navajo anonymization uses no masternode-like feature, NMG and CSG are actually just run by regular nodes 2) the transaction follows some sort of onion routing so no node beside the sender could possibly link transaction to sender ip unless they work in tandem with other malicious nodes nor run some sort of network analysis. 3)I'm assuming transactions are more or less the same size so it's not possible to distinguish transactions happening at the same time, but there are no artificial delays/salting/padding used specifically to avoid linking network activity to transfers 4) the address of the sender does not appear in the blockchain and it disappear from the network (subchains included) once the transaction is completed but what happens if the NMG or CSG or any other node involved tries to keep knowledge of the transaction or the issuer? And what happens if a malicious NMG CSG pair tries to make coins appear? 5) well this is gossip, but, did you contact the Navajos in the end? Personally I see navajo sending technique to be as interesting as bitcoindark teleport, where teleport can evade any network/activity analysis and navajo makes blockchain analysis pointless. I suppose teleport protocol could be built on top of navajo for paranoia level security, that's be interesting to see . BTW, is there any plan to join supernet, blocknet or the likes? Great questions. Soopy is the best person to answer these, so we'll catch him next time he's online to address these finer points.
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CryptoJohn
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
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November 05, 2014, 08:44:27 PM |
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looks like a coin with real devs. watching
Been watching devs for months.... Start buying
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shahim
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November 05, 2014, 09:53:13 PM |
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looks like a coin with real devs. watching
Been watching devs for months.... Start buying nav is going to gain speed!
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GREEDYJOHN
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November 05, 2014, 10:35:54 PM |
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looks like a coin with real devs. watching
Been watching devs for months.... Start buying nav is going to gain speed! Good work guys, nice buy/sell orders at BITTREX.
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hashforce101
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November 05, 2014, 11:07:31 PM Last edit: November 05, 2014, 11:33:06 PM by hashforce101 |
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muchCoinSoCurrency39 @hashforce382: I need a whitepaper, gib whitepaper! XD
can someone explain this to me
Hi Hashforce, "gib" is the german imperativ from "geben" / give. In englisch it is like he asks you do give him the whitepaper... send him the Link Haha, didn't know it was german, it's often used in polandball comics and it sounds funny in an english phrase. Anyway I'm keeping a list of all anonymization techniques ( here, if you're curious) I'll definitely add navajo (for the time being I added it to my portfolio ). Could you confirm/deny a few points? (stuff I didn't understand from the whitepaper): 1) the navajo anonymization uses no masternode-like feature, NMG and CSG are actually just run by regular nodes 2) the transaction follows some sort of onion routing so no node beside the sender could possibly link transaction to sender ip unless they work in tandem with other malicious nodes nor run some sort of network analysis. 3)I'm assuming transactions are more or less the same size so it's not possible to distinguish transactions happening at the same time, but there are no artificial delays/salting/padding used specifically to avoid linking network activity to transfers 4) the address of the sender does not appear in the blockchain and it disappear from the network (subchains included) once the transaction is completed but what happens if the NMG or CSG or any other node involved tries to keep knowledge of the transaction or the issuer? And what happens if a malicious NMG CSG pair tries to make coins appear? 5) well this is gossip, but, did you contact the Navajos in the end? Personally I see navajo sending technique to be as interesting as bitcoindark teleport, where teleport can evade any network/activity analysis and navajo makes blockchain analysis pointless. I suppose teleport protocol could be built on top of navajo for paranoia level security, that's be interesting to see . BTW, is there any plan to join supernet, blocknet or the likes? Great questions. Soopy is the best person to answer these, so we'll catch him next time he's online to address these finer points. Hi Coinwarp https://coinwarp.net/privacy/the-anonymous-coinsGreat to see you added NAV / BTC NavajoCoin to your portfolio. Haha also you need to add our NavajoCoin Logo to add some colour to your website when you write about us. Let me know we you need links to the NavajoCoin Logo for the website Just a link to question 5 regarding NavajoCoin name . In short NavajoCoin is honouring the Navajo Code Talkers (WW2 Encryption ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679791.msg9421987#msg9421987The rest is technical and will be handled by the NavajoCoin foundation as these are very important questions for us and those interested in our competing NavajoCoin Anonymous technology , which is unlike any other. Regards
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CryptoJohn
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
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November 05, 2014, 11:41:55 PM |
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looks like a coin with real devs. watching
Been watching devs for months.... Start buying nav is going to gain speed! Good work guys, nice buy/sell orders at BITTREX. agreed, keep up the chatter, keep up buying pressure
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hashforce101
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November 06, 2014, 01:22:13 AM Last edit: November 06, 2014, 01:57:12 AM by hashforce101 |
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hashforce101 PR Planning feedback from Mac Wallet release and ways to improve PR for next release . Recommendations Only
1. Update Twitter , Facebook , Forum space with Future Anouncment
- Re-tweets community should re-tweet
2. Second coder to fully understand the technical aspects of the workings , processors of Anon from Nodes to Wallet. So more questions can be answered on forums , chat boxes and Article writers and spread the word more quickly.
3. Call out to the community . More people on the exchanges Chat boxes. I tackled the chat boxes yesterday but if I had a few more people would have been better . It gets very tireing after a while to answer all the questions . So on next release if you can donate 20 minutes to spread the word. The rewards are great for the NavajoCoin
4. New Investors love a good base . So drop some BTC in the buy orders to support the coin on Bittrex . That you can afford to leave there long term. Others then come in and build up the buy wall and some go straight for the sell orders and the price goes up and stays stable with out massive drops. This method is important for next release. Why Bittrex it has the greatest volume compared to the other exchanges
5. Surprice Releases . The bad & good
Lucky I had BTC ready !
But if the community gets informed we have time to get our BTC ready ! Others may have an alternative view. takes me 3 days to get BTC to support the coin
- Support the buy wall - Purchase Coins etc etc - make donations
Also plenty of good from surprise releases but Trading wise can put you on the back foot.
The way crypto currency trading works is the Market capitisation value comes from the last buy price . The value comes from the support in the buy orders . So you need to support you investment with BTC - no if no buts. Trading does not work any other way. You could buy all the coins and the last buy order is where the value sits . This is the way people have organised trading and its a major error and a new trading way should be sort . Hopefully a new exchange will solve this problem in the future . But for now the buy orders is where the value is .
So as you can see we can all contribute now as trading has fired up!. We need to keep the momentum now. lets improve every day and prepare for NavajoCoins big day.
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November 06, 2014, 02:16:49 AM |
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What is SummerCoinV1?
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TakeItEasy
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Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game
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November 06, 2014, 02:58:32 AM |
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what about something like this for sr.members: Let me know if you like it, so i can try to do another one If someone likes and want to drop me some nav just tell me [center] [table] [tr] [td][hr][size=20pt][font=Haettenschweiler][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679791.0][color=black]▩[color=#FF0000]N[/color][color=#F20101]A[/color][color=#E40000]V[/color][color=#DF0000]A[/color][color=#D70101]J[/color][color=#C40101]O[/color]COIN▩[/color][/url][/font][/size][hr][/td] [td][size=4pt].[/size] [center][size=13pt][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679791.0][color=black][font=Haettenschweiler] [color=#E7002E]✉ [u]ANONYMOUS WALLET MESSAGING[/u] ✉[/color] ☛ NAVAJO ANNON TECHNOLOGY COMING [font=Arial][COLOR=#FFC400][b](NMG,CSG)[/COLOR][/font] ☚[/font][/color][/url][/size][/center][/td] [/tr][/table] [/center] Very nice! Added to my signature, not so beatiful because I am not Sr.Memeber but still good You can post your NAV address
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soopy452000
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November 06, 2014, 03:11:38 AM |
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muchCoinSoCurrency39 @hashforce382: I need a whitepaper, gib whitepaper! XD
can someone explain this to me
Hi Hashforce, "gib" is the german imperativ from "geben" / give. In englisch it is like he asks you do give him the whitepaper... send him the Link Haha, didn't know it was german, it's often used in polandball comics and it sounds funny in an english phrase. Anyway I'm keeping a list of all anonymization techniques ( here, if you're curious) I'll definitely add navajo (for the time being I added it to my portfolio ). Could you confirm/deny a few points? (stuff I didn't understand from the whitepaper): 1) the navajo anonymization uses no masternode-like feature, NMG and CSG are actually just run by regular nodes 2) the transaction follows some sort of onion routing so no node beside the sender could possibly link transaction to sender ip unless they work in tandem with other malicious nodes nor run some sort of network analysis. 3)I'm assuming transactions are more or less the same size so it's not possible to distinguish transactions happening at the same time, but there are no artificial delays/salting/padding used specifically to avoid linking network activity to transfers 4) the address of the sender does not appear in the blockchain and it disappear from the network (subchains included) once the transaction is completed but what happens if the NMG or CSG or any other node involved tries to keep knowledge of the transaction or the issuer? And what happens if a malicious NMG CSG pair tries to make coins appear? 5) well this is gossip, but, did you contact the Navajos in the end? Personally I see navajo sending technique to be as interesting as bitcoindark teleport, where teleport can evade any network/activity analysis and navajo makes blockchain analysis pointless. I suppose teleport protocol could be built on top of navajo for paranoia level security, that's be interesting to see . BTW, is there any plan to join supernet, blocknet or the likes? Hi Mate,
Thank you very much for your kind questions.
Let me further explain them in detail.
1) NMG and CSG are completely different parts of the blockchain tied to the Sub-Chains and does not necessarily be Nodes.
2) The transaction destination will only known by the Sender and even though of a network analysis it would be unable to pin-point which is which since the the information is transferred mostly through subchains.
3) The input transaction will be completely of different size and amount than the output one , there no linkage.
4) NMG and CSG are completely parts of the subchains and closed originated as well as encrypted, so there is no way of malicious attempts to it's functions nor it is accessible by any entity.
5) We really wanted to talk to the Navajos but with the current developments , we wanted to finish the developments and focus on the outreach attempts and ofcourse surprise them in everyway, the Foundation PR & Marketing Team handles this and would do justice better with an answer.
We strive everyday to perfect NAV ANON mate and thank you very much for kind inputs and suggestions.
We do have many ideas on implementing unbreakable security through anonimized network functionality , likes of supernet , blocknet etc , our top priority being getting out NAV ANON for the general public and build the foundation up onwards.
Do let us know if you would require any further information with regards to NAV and ANON or anything.
Thank you very much.
~SoopY~
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kingscrown
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November 06, 2014, 03:45:47 AM |
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NAV dev never sleeps, good coin to buy still
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hashforce101
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November 06, 2014, 04:59:21 AM |
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Also to confirm publicly that we are not using TOR and the tech is completely NavajoCoin orginal codeing
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fartbags
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November 06, 2014, 05:25:46 AM |
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So... I take my summercoinV1 wallet.dat file, put it into the NavajoCoin appdata folder on windows and I will have my NavajoCoins?
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