BitcoinDark Slack Log(2/18-2/22)jahl (sprnt)BOT [3:56 AM]
i may have converted a BLK owner to invest in BTCD instead irl :simple_smile:
thinkinger [4:12 AM]
joined #general
jahl (sprnt)BOT [5:54 AM]
i'm thinking of putting my btc on trex into btcd and just xfer them to my wallet
btcddev (sprnt)BOT [6:06 AM]
@jahl don't trust exchanges
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:07 AM]
hence my idea
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:07 AM]
still cursed with wantign a good price :confused:
btcddev (sprnt)BOT [6:07 AM]
:simple_smile:
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:08 AM]
anyoen wanna sell @ 400 by any chance?
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:08 AM]
400401 on trex, if anyone is interested
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:08 AM]
@durdurhae: was in the market on the sell side
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:11 AM]
instantdex buy didn't get filled either damn
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:22 AM]
durdurhae seems to be online
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:23 AM]
hi I just logged in
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:23 AM]
hey :simple_smile: you wanted to get rid off some btcd?
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:23 AM]
yeah I have to... :disappointed:
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:24 AM]
I got little less than 7K
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:24 AM]
i woudl only want 2.7btc worth, rest is on BTer lol
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:24 AM]
oh that sucks :disappointed:
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:25 AM]
yea, maybe i'm lucky and some unity buys got filled before the donation to the hacker
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:26 AM]
yeah that Bter events is annoying
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:27 AM]
I thought you were buying 4K, but I will sell on Bittrex a bit if no one comes out for buy the whole thing
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:27 AM]
spend my btc on that wall on trex
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:28 AM]
so can't buy the hole thing
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:28 AM]
maybe more potential buyers here
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:31 AM]
not enough liquidity :disappointed:
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [6:32 AM]
but yeah, I think I will sell it to your wall soon
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:32 AM]
alright
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:35 AM]
leave the one at 400k, that way ppl will place orders before it again and you can sell in tiny pieces as you are now
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:35 AM]
well its your choice, just my opinion
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:40 AM]
polo is below 400k
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [7:02 AM]
How long does it usually take for trex to confirm the btcd?
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:03 AM]
hmm not sure, i think around 8 or less? but been playign with many coins, so i could have it mixed up with another one
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:05 AM]
oh 20 it says
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:05 AM]
https://bittrex.com/Home/Feesdurdurhae (sprnt)BOT [7:06 AM]
I see. thanks :simple_smile:
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [7:16 AM]
done
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:16 AM]
thanks :simple_smile:
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [7:18 AM]
let me know if you need more
durdurhae (sprnt)BOT [7:18 AM]
hate to sell, but have to... :disappointed:
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:18 AM]
ok, will see how BTer goes
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:21 AM]
g'night :simple_smile:
cascrypto (sprnt)BOT [5:08 PM]
miss my btcd ;0( let bter come back online , or wait till i have more btc to buy the massif altcoin dump
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:42 PM]
why does anyone dump "alts" when the price of btc makes them rise in value?
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:43 PM]
buy high sell low strategy
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:43 PM]
it is necessary to support the traders who buy low and sell high
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:46 PM]
i get that...necessary evil i guess
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:46 PM]
hodl
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:48 PM]
my goal is to have the one's that rise in value against btc
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:49 PM]
in a nut shell
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:50 PM]
i just got your joke james
cascrypto (sprnt)BOT [5:53 PM]
alt coin dump will come if bter keeps our coin, plenty of coins where 30% of all coins are on bter, they will dump them for btc then , i guess
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:53 PM]
unfortunately not a joke
gabes (sprnt)BOT [5:53 PM]
james never joking. always serious. :expressionless:
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:55 PM]
i forgot for a minute
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:55 PM]
or a few
futurist (sprnt)BOT [5:57 PM]
@cascrypto: why?
futurist (sprnt)BOT [6:01 PM]
oh...think i get what you're saying
futurist (sprnt)BOT [6:03 PM]
i was basically all in on vrc
icebear (sprnt)BOT [6:03 PM]
It would be kind of criminal if they did that though imo..
futurist (sprnt)BOT [6:04 PM]
ty vericoin devs
cascrypto (sprnt)BOT [6:05 PM]
yeah I still think Chinese government will not allow this theft i hope, crypto gives the Chinese lots of power if they keep the industry clean i guess
icebear (sprnt)BOT [6:05 PM]
See #deleted-channel
icebear (sprnt)BOT [6:05 PM]
There's hope..
stuntruffle (sprnt)BOT [8:54 PM]
I had a bunch of btcd sell orders for nxt on bter
stuntruffle (sprnt)BOT [8:55 PM]
was hoping to catch some crazy person pumping a 250k nxt buy into btcd again
stuntruffle (sprnt)BOT [8:55 PM]
don't feel so bad about losing coins after hearing about the 400 btc supernet loss
veryveriviral (sprnt)BOT [9:48 PM]
@futurist: I doubt Bter will be able to survive this. With MintPal - for us - it certainly wasn't about saving their "exchange". Had everything to do with a possible 51% attack - thereby protecting our coin AND investors. These centralized exchanges are an enormous problem...
apex944 (sprnt)BOT [9:54 PM]
which is why I've pulled all my funds off them... we need SN v1.0 .... Crypto needs SN v1.0 !
----- February 19th, 2015 -----
cassius (sprnt)BOT [12:12 AM]
We really do need a high-liquidity decentralised exchange. Where can we find one?
cassius (sprnt)BOT [12:12 AM]
Wait! I think I heard BlockNET was developing something like that.
jahl (sprnt)BOT [1:55 AM]
shit that wall is gone :confused:
jahl (sprnt)BOT [3:29 AM]
btcddev did you buy it again?
btcddev (sprnt)BOT [3:33 AM]
jahl (sprnt)BOT [3:33 AM]
i wired money this noon, but once i got home it was gone
jahl (sprnt)BOT [3:37 AM]
i think it may have been durdurhae's wall
pondsea (sprnt)BOT [3:45 AM]
@jahl: are you in the states?
jahl (sprnt)BOT [3:46 AM]
europe
pondsea (sprnt)BOT [3:46 AM]
ah ok
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [8:15 AM]
some
btcddev (sprnt)BOT [8:34 AM]
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----- Yesterday February 22nd, 2015 -----
jahl (sprnt)BOT [4:36 AM]
we need a sell wall again :confused:
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:37 AM]
I would like to borrow 10% of rimbit and sell it at current prices, use the proceeds to buy 50% of BTCD.
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:38 AM]
later I will sell 0.001% of BTCD to repurchase the rimbit
btcdith [4:38 AM]
go for it
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:38 AM]
will be nice multimillion dollar gain
jahl (sprnt)BOT [4:39 AM]
i'm still anrgy that wall at 388k was there when i could not reach any btc :confused:
jahl (sprnt)BOT [4:40 AM]
was that durdurhea?
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:41 AM]
probably. he was needing short term and knew it was not good trade, real life sucks sometimes
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:41 AM]
what is current price anyway?
jahl (sprnt)BOT [4:41 AM]
373 bid 400k ask
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:42 AM]
so it is still good price
jahl (sprnt)BOT [4:43 AM]
kinda hoping on more sub400k walls
btcdith [4:52 AM]
why does it say BOT next to your name?
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:52 AM]
we are all sockpuppets
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:53 AM]
yours says (bitcoindark) next to it
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:53 AM]
i think the slack <-> irc is adding it
btcdith [4:53 AM]
ok didn't know if a bot was typing these, would have been impressive
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:54 AM]
that is our mission
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:54 AM]
to fool the humans to think we are also human
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:54 AM]
then the assimilation will begin
btcdith [4:55 AM]
don
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:55 AM]
please ignore the above, my cat typed it
btcdith [4:55 AM]
i thought we had 30 years or so
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:55 AM]
of course, it will be at least 30.1 years
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:56 AM]
there is nothing to worry about
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:56 AM]
looks like I fixed the last InstantDEX orderbook bugs
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:56 AM]
even a random crash in totally separate module
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:56 AM]
so now have to make it do the order matching
jahl (sprnt)BOT [4:58 AM]
woudl it be able to handle a transfer of all BTer users to instantdex?
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:59 AM]
100 trades per minute will be the initial limit
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [4:59 AM]
but we wont have all the coins available at once
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:00 AM]
and NXT devs assure me the limit of tx will be able to be increased
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:00 AM]
so, yes we can absorb quite a lot
jahl (sprnt)BOT [5:00 AM]
1.6 traders per second
jahl (sprnt)BOT [5:01 AM]
lots better then AE
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:01 AM]
AE can handle this too
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:01 AM]
but when it costs for each bid
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:01 AM]
and sometimes 10 minute block
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:02 AM]
to be clear, InstantDEX will let you do a trade in few seconds (depends on ping times of both peers)
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:02 AM]
but you cant retrade until it is on the blockchain
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:02 AM]
and maybe some nodes will not want something you have that is only 1 block confirmed
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:03 AM]
but these are choices each node can make independently
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:03 AM]
at first I am doing the scramble to get the simplest order matching working
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:03 AM]
so plz for the first version we need to start slow and make sure it is solid
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [5:03 AM]
I fix bugs, then add more advanced things
mivond (sprnt)BOT [5:53 AM]
Hi everyone please try out my game bitcoindarkdice.net :simple_smile:
mivond (sprnt)BOT [5:53 AM]
My first dice game, please let me know how you find it
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:12 AM]
does it make you a nice income? :simple_smile:
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:16 AM]
oh, does the block explorer show a larger balance then the wallet because of theunconfirmed staking fees?
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:18 AM]
ramchains is assuming any unspent output is valid, no provision for longer time needed for fresh minted coins
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:25 AM]
its still 0.4btcd off
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:28 AM]
yes there is some discrepancy. but not sure where it is from
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:28 AM]
are you accounting for it being a few blocks behind?
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:30 AM]
i wont be minting 0.4btcd in a few blocks :simple_smile:
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:30 AM]
well its not an issue, just something i noticed
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:31 AM]
oh, unless the it has somethign to do with the pool
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:31 AM]
only whales will notice any meaningful discrepancy
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:31 AM]
pool?
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:31 AM]
mining pool
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:31 AM]
just got another 0.1, so only .3 diff
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:31 AM]
the ramchain balance should be quite close to what your wallet says
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:32 AM]
maybe the wallet is behidn after all
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:32 AM]
i think the blockexplorer is ~5 blocks behind, not sure
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:32 AM]
which says bigger balance?
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:32 AM]
block explorer
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:33 AM]
then it is the sum of all the blocks you mined that have not matured yet
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:33 AM]
could easily add uo
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [6:33 AM]
up
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:34 AM]
i have manually added thos, unless the ones that ae minted that didn't show in my transactions due to some delay
jahl (sprnt)BOT [6:42 AM]
one more stake, and then that confirms the RAMchains are too fast for the wallet
mivond (sprnt)BOT [7:02 AM]
jahl no I just set it up
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:25 AM]
just curious, how did you end up in BTCD james?
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:26 AM]
a week after it launched I found out about it
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:26 AM]
they were asking for community help
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:26 AM]
i PM some tech advice
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:26 AM]
next thing you know, i am becoming core dev
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:27 AM]
that went fast lol
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:27 AM]
i am usually big trouble maker
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:27 AM]
i keep asking questions about this and that
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:27 AM]
and usually i am pointng out issues
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:27 AM]
and so what usually happens is I am asked to leave
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:28 AM]
lol
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:28 AM]
but with BTCD, it was quite opposite
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:28 AM]
So it is due to Azeh I am here
jahl (sprnt)BOT [7:28 AM]
azeh is a btcd dev too?
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:28 AM]
he is the ben franklin for BTCD
jl777 (sprnt)BOT [7:28 AM]
i saw his pic
----- Today February 23rd, 2015 -----
leathan (sprnt)BOT [2:03 AM]
btcd address
leathan (sprnt)BOT [2:03 AM]
or try a nxt address
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [2:51 AM]
how about SN addy?
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [2:52 AM]
Testing now taking place
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [2:52 AM]
go to #deleted-channel
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:52 AM]
hey all
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:52 AM]
my btcd client is acting funky for days now
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
it's up and running, looks like it is still forging blocks
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
but it keeps falling behind
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
(out of sync)
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
now 2207 blocks remaining
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
but they never download
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
it just keeps falling more and more behind
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
while still forging blocks every so often
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:53 AM]
I've rebooted and everything
mr_e (sprnt)BOT [2:54 AM]
it shows I'm connected to the network
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [2:57 AM]
I do not see a "SN Button" in my BTCD wallet
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [2:57 AM]
using v v1.0.0.0-g32a928e
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [2:58 AM]
yeah same version here and no SN button
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:08 AM]
@nippybrit: I'm waiting on my NXT NRS for SN to complete BlockChain Download
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:09 AM]
it's the same blockchain - the next one
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:09 AM]
NXT, sorry :simple_smile:
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:09 AM]
can't hope to see anything until it's complete.I think
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:09 AM]
if you have the complete blockchain in your normal client
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:09 AM]
you can just stop the java process and copy the folder over
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:09 AM]
nxt_db
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
this folder
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
I'm not using "MY" NRS nxt for testing
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
?
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
the blockchain is the blockchain
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
wherever it comes from
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
opened new account and need to do first time down load
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
of Block chain
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
but it's the same file
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:10 AM]
the "account" is just the result of your password
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:11 AM]
yes it is
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:11 AM]
so there's no need to re-download
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:11 AM]
you can take the nxt_db folder from your nrs client and paste it into the SN V1 client folder
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:12 AM]
it didn't take long to see my test deposit after that
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:12 AM]
or? Once I have it loaded on my machine should it be availabe to any new nxt wallwt you create?
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:13 AM]
Nice to know. We will have to make future testers aware of that
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:13 AM]
"available" in that you can just copy the blockchain from one to the other
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:13 AM]
it's the same "database" as any NXT client will use
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:13 AM]
yes. I understand. But was unaware of that possibility until now
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:14 AM]
should be a big time saver then!
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [3:14 AM]
I've gotta go eat sunday roast now :simple_smile:
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:14 AM]
yes 66143 blocks left for my fresh down load
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [3:15 AM]
enjoy
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:33 AM]
yes, you probably need to be running NRS to get the supernet interface
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:33 AM]
I don't understand why the version number is the same but you have a more up to date version
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:33 AM]
maybe they don't bother updating the version number until a public release
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [4:37 AM]
@nippybrit: just checked the instruction link ^. It's a linux based wallet he's getting the in wallet supernet tab in. (I think)
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:37 AM]
ohh
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:37 AM]
I think it might be the in-development version though
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [4:38 AM]
lots of fog, confusion, misunderstandings, will be the norm as SN emerges
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:38 AM]
since the instructions are to grab something from github
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:38 AM]
yeah
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:38 AM]
I guess there's plenty of scope for confusion!
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [4:39 AM]
best to ask in #deleted-channel
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:39 AM]
as an aside, my phone's text to speech pronounces "github" as "gi-thub"
nippybrit (sprnt)BOT [4:39 AM]
and it's made it hard to look at the word the same again
kevondo (sprnt)BOT [4:39 AM]
but doesn't seem to be moderatoe around right now