[Moderated] [ANN][URO] First Urea Commodity Token: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea

[Guglimugli]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

[jasemoney]

because no one new is coming here with questions, just you guys with the broken record. none of us have answers for you guys just speculation. except Bohan, and he said earlier GES doesnt have to answer to you.

Well, I'm new here and I still have the same question: What about PRODUCERS of urea? Here it as all about offices, shipments, ports as if this would have any relevance. I can not find anything about producers of urea accepting Urocoin as payment so where does all that urea come from?

uro manufacturers are paid in fiat by the NIERs (who are accepting the urocoin token for urea from whoever buyer) same as they normally would.

[Guglimugli]

because no one new is coming here with questions, just you guys with the broken record. none of us have answers for you guys just speculation. except Bohan, and he said earlier GES doesnt have to answer to you.

Well, I'm new here and I still have the same question: What about PRODUCERS of urea? Here it as all about offices, shipments, ports as if this would have any relevance. I can not find anything about producers of urea accepting Urocoin as payment so where does all that urea come from?

thats another secret...how can you even ask that? lol

[Guglimugli]

because no one new is coming here with questions, just you guys with the broken record. none of us have answers for you guys just speculation. except Bohan, and he said earlier GES doesnt have to answer to you.

Well, I'm new here and I still have the same question: What about PRODUCERS of urea? Here it as all about offices, shipments, ports as if this would have any relevance. I can not find anything about producers of urea accepting Urocoin as payment so where does all that urea come from?

uro manufacturers are paid in fiat by the NIERs (who are accepting the urocoin token for urea from whoever buyer) same as they normally would.

that was not his questions, read carefully.. where does all that urea come from?

[jasemoney]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

[jasemoney]

because no one new is coming here with questions, just you guys with the broken record. none of us have answers for you guys just speculation. except Bohan, and he said earlier GES doesnt have to answer to you.

Well, I'm new here and I still have the same question: What about PRODUCERS of urea? Here it as all about offices, shipments, ports as if this would have any relevance. I can not find anything about producers of urea accepting Urocoin as payment so where does all that urea come from?

uro manufacturers are paid in fiat by the NIERs (who are accepting the urocoin token for urea from whoever buyer) same as they normally would.

that was not his questions, read carefully.. where does all that urea come from?

http://nzic.org.nz/ChemProcesses/production/1A.pdf

[Guglimugli]

because no one new is coming here with questions, just you guys with the broken record. none of us have answers for you guys just speculation. except Bohan, and he said earlier GES doesnt have to answer to you.

Well, I'm new here and I still have the same question: What about PRODUCERS of urea? Here it as all about offices, shipments, ports as if this would have any relevance. I can not find anything about producers of urea accepting Urocoin as payment so where does all that urea come from?

uro manufacturers are paid in fiat by the NIERs (who are accepting the urocoin token for urea from whoever buyer) same as they normally would.

that was not his questions, read carefully.. where does all that urea come from?

http://nzic.org.nz/ChemProcesses/production/1A.pdf

i am sorry but i have to say it "you are damn as shit"
you still do not understand the question. who is selling Urea to GES?? is that simple enough for your brain?

[Truthful]

ahh questions yay!

Delusional statement. Who's getting paid?? Why don't you try and refute what you claim to be FUD rather than post false comments.

Where are the other NEIR's?
Green Earth Systems, Urea Trading India, CCL Pillay Group, Crown Team Corporation 4 NIERS (stated to be present at UROSE)

Who are those so-called NIER's? No one knows anything about them. Signatures wrong on Pillay Group doc & Crown Team Corp haven't got a good reputation.
Why has it been claimed that there's an office in HK when it doesn't exist.
Why hold conference in HK if theres nothing holding the company there, woudnt it be in Australia by your logic?
Why has it been claimed that GES AU is not involved?
because you can not order Urea from GES AU
Why has the Uro Foundation claimed they're a volunteer organization when they're not.
where does it say theyre making money, and how? (paid entry to event is not valid argument)
Why has it been claimed that GES HK is a multi-international company with multi-million dollar
contracts, yet can't host their own event?
http://greenearthsystems.com.au/23-million-dollar-solar-powered-water-pumps-egypt-ges/ heres a 23 million dollar GES project starting November, ending March. I assume they have more than 1 deal per year, this makes GES continue to be a multimillion dollar company. since GES =/= Uro foundation, they are not funding it. its a conflict of interests which would make you fud yell so loud if GES did fund the UROSE event that I shudder to think this thread would implode under the weight of its own idiocy

replies in blue above (duh)

1. Who are those so-called NIER's? No one knows anything about them. Signatures wrong on Pillay Group doc & Crown Team Corp haven't got a good reputation.

2. Up until July this year the GES website was an all GES AU website & company that promoted utself as a commodities trader. The website changed to convince you it was a GES HK only company. Are you seriously going to think that GES AU is not involved esp., since the Uro Foundation, which claims is a charity was registered in AU.

3. You seriously think that they're bit out to make money. It's a business!

4. If they held it in AU then bagholders would be worried! They don't want to lose your blinded loyalty. Also, AU doesn't recognize crypto like HK. They've got to keep the pretense up. Who would fly to AU for a 4 hour meeting? HK is where there are rich people & it's closer for so-called attendees.

5.Seriously, the director is bankrupt! Do you believe everything that they post on their website? Anyone can do it  No video of Iran.

[jasemoney]

sorry that pdf is a copout answer. the truth in my head is that that question is the largest question. the unknown answer is what is splitting this into supporters vs unsupporters.
We are led to believe that GES is trying to position itself to a new customer base where it can save their clients using urocoin tokens 10% bank fees and time. if they are willing to bootstrap it, they can be ahead of the game in a few years with more customers than before, and also a pile of urocoin of which they control much of the supply. they cant charge to much over spot price to sell them back to on the market otherwise people would just use fiat. to get the urea, GES has to pay the manufacturer the 75$ per MT it appears manufacturing costs. so each order is being funded by close to a million from GES, where the result should be a resell value of the tokens for near $3.7 million.  GES pays manufacturer who delivers to wherever, which is loaded onto the buyers boat which the buyer paid for. transaction done. on to the next.  
the non supporters believe GES does not have the money to do this, evidence by Nilesh bankruptcy, poor online presence, and the million other reasons.
the supporters believe GES does, as evidence by all the counterpoints and information presented.
some believe Urocoin could be bootstrapped, where in the case of Rivaa, IPL pays normal ammt to Rivva through the tender (7.4 million) then Rivaa pays some to GES and GES then pays some to manufacturer, everyone makes some money and the urea isnt coming from thin air. *tinfoil hat theory*

[Spoetnik]

I'm sorry your days of being paid to post FUD are coming to an end.


 

Delusional statement. Who's getting paid?? Why don't you try and refute what you claim to be FUD rather than post false comments.

Where are the other NEIR's?

Why has it been claimed that there's an office in HK when it doesn't exist.

Why has it been claimed that GES AU is not involved?

Why has the Uro Foundation claimed they're a volunteer organization when they're not.

Why has it been claimed that GES HK is a multi-international company with multi-million dollar contracts, yet can't host their own event?

lol well they are volunteer org. in some way. all these bag holders volunteer to do the PR for free. some bag holders create logo, the others are spaming people on twitter, trying to make them buy URO. donating money for prypto cards etc..
they do not get anything for doing that. so they are volunteers. but the cash flow is somewhere else.

That would be a scam wouldn't it?

yup..

that is kind of the whole point to the URO is a scam topic in the scam sub-forum here  
KNOWN BITCOIN SCAMMERS - UROCOIN NILESH NAIR BOHAN HUANG SYDNEY AUSTRALIA

[Guglimugli]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

you believe everything Bohan say. Bohan this, Bohan that...do you have your own opinion or would you also agree with him if tomorrow he say "the world is going down next week"?
if these companies supports URO then they would also support projects of URO. Its called "investors" dude, investors invest money into coins they like and they will also donate money in good projects...why? because successful project will help the coin and the price. but we see how successful all these projects from URO Foundation are.
Nilesh is full of shit! He promised the video from Iran and what happened? you are totally brain washed dude!

[Guglimugli]

sorry that pdf is a copout answer. the truth in my head is that that question is the largest question. the unknown answer is what is splitting this into supporters vs unsupporters.
We are led to believe that GES is trying to position itself to a new customer base where it can save their clients using urocoin tokens 10% bank fees and time. if they are willing to bootstrap it, they can be ahead of the game in a few years with more customers than before, and also a pile of urocoin of which they control much of the supply. they cant charge to much over spot price to sell them back to on the market otherwise people would just use fiat. to get the urea, GES has to pay the manufacturer the 75$ per MT it appears manufacturing costs. so each order is being funded by close to a million from GES, where the result should be a resell value of the tokens for near $3.7 million.  GES pays manufacturer who delivers to wherever, which is loaded onto the buyers boat which the buyer paid for. transaction done. on to the next.  
the non supporters believe GES does not have the money to do this, evidence by Nilesh bankruptcy, poor online presence, and the million other reasons.
the supporters believe GES does, as evidence by all the counterpoints and information presented.
some believe Urocoin could be bootstrapped, where in the case of Rivaa, IPL pays normal ammt to Rivva through the tender (7.4 million) then Rivaa pays some to GES and GES then pays some to manufacturer, everyone makes some money and the urea isnt coming from thin air. *tinfoil hat theory*

so much blah blah..all these big companies using URO and you see where you are right now.
Rivaa never announced that they used URO to pay UREA. They only wrote that they support UROCOIN. None of them use URO to pay UREA. NONE!!
They are no payments done in URO! it would not be a legal document, get it!

[jasemoney]

ahh questions yay!

Delusional statement. Who's getting paid?? Why don't you try and refute what you claim to be FUD rather than post false comments.

Where are the other NEIR's?
Green Earth Systems, Urea Trading India, CCL Pillay Group, Crown Team Corporation 4 NIERS (stated to be present at UROSE)

Who are those so-called NIER's? No one knows anything about them. Signatures wrong on Pillay Group doc & Crown Team Corp haven't got a good reputation.
Why has it been claimed that there's an office in HK when it doesn't exist.
Why hold conference in HK if theres nothing holding the company there, woudnt it be in Australia by your logic?
Why has it been claimed that GES AU is not involved?
because you can not order Urea from GES AU
Why has the Uro Foundation claimed they're a volunteer organization when they're not.
where does it say theyre making money, and how? (paid entry to event is not valid argument)
Why has it been claimed that GES HK is a multi-international company with multi-million dollar
contracts, yet can't host their own event?
http://greenearthsystems.com.au/23-million-dollar-solar-powered-water-pumps-egypt-ges/ heres a 23 million dollar GES project starting November, ending March. I assume they have more than 1 deal per year, this makes GES continue to be a multimillion dollar company. since GES =/= Uro foundation, they are not funding it. its a conflict of interests which would make you fud yell so loud if GES did fund the UROSE event that I shudder to think this thread would implode under the weight of its own idiocy

replies in blue above (duh)

1. Who are those so-called NIER's? No one knows anything about them. Signatures wrong on Pillay Group doc & Crown Team Corp haven't got a good reputation.

2. Up until July this year the GES website was an all GES AU website & company that promoted utself as a commidites trader. The website changed to convince you it was a GES HK only company. Are you seriously going to think that GES AU is not involved esp., since the Uro Foundation, which claims is a charity was registered in AU.

3. You seriously think that they're bit out to make money. It's a business!

4. If they held it in AU then bagholders would be worried! They don't want to lose your blinded loyalty. Also, AU doesn't recognize crypto like HK. They've got to keep the pretense up. Who would fly to AU for a 4 hour meeting? HK is where there are rich people & it's closer for so-called attendees.

5.Seriously, the director is bankrupt! Do you believe everything that they post on their website? Anyone can do it  No video of Iran.

1. opinion from soneone not in industry
2. who cares, of course its all one company, it has different names for different spots. I personally believe all 4 NIERs are owned by GES in some way, im not deterred by this
3. im sure bohan hold urocoins duh. that doesnt mean its the foundations, or that hes making money from the foundation.
4. business meeting, people fly to them all the time. urea is actual business for some people. (doesnt appear anybody here) the marketcap for just the top 10 fertilizer firms is 140 Billion dollars http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/number-cruncher/fertilizer-firms-the-cream-of-the-crop/article17888468/

[Truthful]

Spoetnik: how come they don't get that it's all not legit?

[jasemoney]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

you believe everything Bohan say. Bohan this, Bohan that...do you have your own opinion or would you also agree with him if tomorrow he say "the world is going down next week"?
if these companies supports URO then they would also support projects of URO. Its called "investors" dude, investors invest money into coins they like and they will also donate money in good projects...why? because successful project will help the coin and the price. but we see how successful all these projects from URO Foundation are.
Nilesh is full of shit! He promised the video from Iran and what happened? you are totally brain washed dude!

yes i believe him, and i dont believe you. the only investors are the speculators, the rest are people using this as a financial token for pay for urea. it doesnt mater if the graphics are pretty, or anything as long as it works. making it presentable is for shits and giggles in my opinion.

[HappyHogan]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

you believe everything Bohan say. Bohan this, Bohan that...do you have your own opinion or would you also agree with him if tomorrow he say "the world is going down next week"?
if these companies supports URO then they would also support projects of URO. Its called "investors" dude, investors invest money into coins they like and they will also donate money in good projects...why? because successful project will help the coin and the price. but we see how successful all these projects from URO Foundation are.
Nilesh is full of shit! He promised the video from Iran and what happened? you are totally brain washed dude!

Yeah that was not a very convincing answer. If they have so much money, then why not donate some to the overall cause? How on Earth is that a conflict of interest? Of all the criticism of this project I've seen, this is really the most convincing. It makes no fucking sense whatsoever if they're supposedly wealthy businessmen.

[jasemoney]

sorry that pdf is a copout answer. the truth in my head is that that question is the largest question. the unknown answer is what is splitting this into supporters vs unsupporters.
We are led to believe that GES is trying to position itself to a new customer base where it can save their clients using urocoin tokens 10% bank fees and time. if they are willing to bootstrap it, they can be ahead of the game in a few years with more customers than before, and also a pile of urocoin of which they control much of the supply. they cant charge to much over spot price to sell them back to on the market otherwise people would just use fiat. to get the urea, GES has to pay the manufacturer the 75$ per MT it appears manufacturing costs. so each order is being funded by close to a million from GES, where the result should be a resell value of the tokens for near $3.7 million.  GES pays manufacturer who delivers to wherever, which is loaded onto the buyers boat which the buyer paid for. transaction done. on to the next.  
the non supporters believe GES does not have the money to do this, evidence by Nilesh bankruptcy, poor online presence, and the million other reasons.
the supporters believe GES does, as evidence by all the counterpoints and information presented.
some believe Urocoin could be bootstrapped, where in the case of Rivaa, IPL pays normal ammt to Rivva through the tender (7.4 million) then Rivaa pays some to GES and GES then pays some to manufacturer, everyone makes some money and the urea isnt coming from thin air. *tinfoil hat theory*

so much blah blah..all these big companies using URO and you see where you are right now.
Rivaa never announced that they used URO to pay UREA. They only wrote that they support UROCOIN. None of them use URO to pay UREA. NONE!!
They are no payments done in URO! it would not be a legal document, get it!

im done talking to you for the day. you have no faith that anything like this could ever work, even though its happening under your nose.  what are you going to be pulling out of your ass in 6 months or a years time when this is still going on.

[jasemoney]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

you believe everything Bohan say. Bohan this, Bohan that...do you have your own opinion or would you also agree with him if tomorrow he say "the world is going down next week"?
if these companies supports URO then they would also support projects of URO. Its called "investors" dude, investors invest money into coins they like and they will also donate money in good projects...why? because successful project will help the coin and the price. but we see how successful all these projects from URO Foundation are.
Nilesh is full of shit! He promised the video from Iran and what happened? you are totally brain washed dude!

Yeah that was not a very convincing answer. If they have so much money, then why not donate some to the overall cause? How on Earth is that a conflict of interest? Of all the criticism of this project I've seen, this is really the most convincing. It makes no fucking sense whatsoever if they're supposedly wealthy businessmen.

sorry im not as wellspoken as it has been stated by others why this would be an issue, even if its a halfassed issue

[HappyHogan]

sorry that pdf is a copout answer. the truth in my head is that that question is the largest question. the unknown answer is what is splitting this into supporters vs unsupporters.
We are led to believe that GES is trying to position itself to a new customer base where it can save their clients using urocoin tokens 10% bank fees and time. if they are willing to bootstrap it, they can be ahead of the game in a few years with more customers than before, and also a pile of urocoin of which they control much of the supply. they cant charge to much over spot price to sell them back to on the market otherwise people would just use fiat. to get the urea, GES has to pay the manufacturer the 75$ per MT it appears manufacturing costs. so each order is being funded by close to a million from GES, where the result should be a resell value of the tokens for near $3.7 million.  GES pays manufacturer who delivers to wherever, which is loaded onto the buyers boat which the buyer paid for. transaction done. on to the next.  
the non supporters believe GES does not have the money to do this, evidence by Nilesh bankruptcy, poor online presence, and the million other reasons.
the supporters believe GES does, as evidence by all the counterpoints and information presented.
some believe Urocoin could be bootstrapped, where in the case of Rivaa, IPL pays normal ammt to Rivva through the tender (7.4 million) then Rivaa pays some to GES and GES then pays some to manufacturer, everyone makes some money and the urea isnt coming from thin air. *tinfoil hat theory*

so much blah blah..all these big companies using URO and you see where you are right now.
Rivaa never announced that they used URO to pay UREA. They only wrote that they support UROCOIN. None of them use URO to pay UREA. NONE!!
They are no payments done in URO! it would not be a legal document, get it!

im done talking to you for the day. you have no faith that anything like this could ever work, even though its happening under your nose.  what are you going to be pulling out of your ass in 6 months or a years time when this is still going on.

I don't think the critics here believe nothing could ever work, they're just not very convinced this was designed to work.

[Guglimugli]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

you believe everything Bohan say. Bohan this, Bohan that...do you have your own opinion or would you also agree with him if tomorrow he say "the world is going down next week"?
if these companies supports URO then they would also support projects of URO. Its called "investors" dude, investors invest money into coins they like and they will also donate money in good projects...why? because successful project will help the coin and the price. but we see how successful all these projects from URO Foundation are.
Nilesh is full of shit! He promised the video from Iran and what happened? you are totally brain washed dude!

yes i believe him, and i dont believe you. the only investors are the speculators, the rest are people using this as a financial token for pay for urea. it doesnt mater if the graphics are pretty, or anything as long as it works. making it presentable is for shits and giggles in my opinion.

how do you know that "it works"?? because Bohan say so? who is talking about pretty graphics now? where in the hell did you see a payment done in URO?