[Moderated] [ANN][URO] First Urea Commodity Token: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea

[Chang Hum]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

you believe everything Bohan say. Bohan this, Bohan that...do you have your own opinion or would you also agree with him if tomorrow he say "the world is going down next week"?
if these companies supports URO then they would also support projects of URO. Its called "investors" dude, investors invest money into coins they like and they will also donate money in good projects...why? because successful project will help the coin and the price. but we see how successful all these projects from URO Foundation are.
Nilesh is full of shit! He promised the video from Iran and what happened? you are totally brain washed dude!

yes i believe him, and i dont believe you. the only investors are a small group of complete fucking idiots, the rest are fictional. it doesnt mater if the graphics are pretty, or anything people really are that fucking dumb. making it presentable is for shits and giggles in my opinion.

FTFY

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[jasemoney]

the thing about Nilesh and Bohan is that they keep talking about that big multi-million dollar company and Nilesh is donating so much money around the world but he can not donate $500 for NURO wallet design, not $300 for prypto cards. he can not even finance his own event. all donations are coming from poor bag holders who does not even own 1000 URO but they put all they got into that coin.

conflict of interest. also prypto was 3rd party, ask the prypto dev. Nuro wallet design allows the community to have an impact on the outcome of projects. im sure in some other case you would be proud if you won a few bucks for some work you did where that work would be on display though an upcoming platform. oh and you made a few bucks, cool. then again design isnt something to pay thousands for especially when the community who is for the coin is skilled, and would like to help. Im sure it would have gotten done for free if it was not posted with request for donation.

Bohan has said a few times ICO is illegal (unsecured securities whatever) premines are gray area illegal. so it follows that GES helping itself to a few million dollars or donating to a project  where it benefited in the long run would be highly scrutinized by people who are not internet detectives.

you believe everything Bohan say. Bohan this, Bohan that...do you have your own opinion or would you also agree with him if tomorrow he say "the world is going down next week"?
if these companies supports URO then they would also support projects of URO. Its called "investors" dude, investors invest money into coins they like and they will also donate money in good projects...why? because successful project will help the coin and the price. but we see how successful all these projects from URO Foundation are.
Nilesh is full of shit! He promised the video from Iran and what happened? you are totally brain washed dude!

yes i believe him, and i dont believe you. the only investors are a small group of complete fucking idiots, the rest are fictional. it doesnt mater if the graphics are pretty, or anything people really are that fucking dumb. making it presentable is for shits and giggles in my opinion.

FTFY

Ahh thx for CHANGing that for me

[kyle589]

sorry that pdf is a copout answer. the truth in my head is that that question is the largest question. the unknown answer is what is splitting this into supporters vs unsupporters.
We are led to believe that GES is trying to position itself to a new customer base where it can save their clients using urocoin tokens 10% bank fees and time. if they are willing to bootstrap it, they can be ahead of the game in a few years with more customers than before, and also a pile of urocoin of which they control much of the supply. they cant charge to much over spot price to sell them back to on the market otherwise people would just use fiat. to get the urea, GES has to pay the manufacturer the 75$ per MT it appears manufacturing costs. so each order is being funded by close to a million from GES, where the result should be a resell value of the tokens for near $3.7 million.  GES pays manufacturer who delivers to wherever, which is loaded onto the buyers boat which the buyer paid for. transaction done. on to the next.  
the non supporters believe GES does not have the money to do this, evidence by Nilesh bankruptcy, poor online presence, and the million other reasons.
the supporters believe GES does, as evidence by all the counterpoints and information presented.
some believe Urocoin could be bootstrapped, where in the case of Rivaa, IPL pays normal ammt to Rivva through the tender (7.4 million) then Rivaa pays some to GES and GES then pays some to manufacturer, everyone makes some money and the urea isnt coming from thin air. *tinfoil hat theory*

so much blah blah..all these big companies using URO and you see where you are right now.
Rivaa never announced that they used URO to pay UREA. They only wrote that they support UROCOIN. None of them use URO to pay UREA. NONE!!
They are no payments done in URO! it would not be a legal document, get it!

Well this came from Rivaa after the deal when I emailed them to confirm it. https://twitter.com/KlKyle589/status/508373499308953601

So try again.

[bitwarrior]

sorry that pdf is a copout answer. the truth in my head is that that question is the largest question. the unknown answer is what is splitting this into supporters vs unsupporters.
We are led to believe that GES is trying to position itself to a new customer base where it can save their clients using urocoin tokens 10% bank fees and time. if they are willing to bootstrap it, they can be ahead of the game in a few years with more customers than before, and also a pile of urocoin of which they control much of the supply. they cant charge to much over spot price to sell them back to on the market otherwise people would just use fiat. to get the urea, GES has to pay the manufacturer the 75$ per MT it appears manufacturing costs. so each order is being funded by close to a million from GES, where the result should be a resell value of the tokens for near $3.7 million.  GES pays manufacturer who delivers to wherever, which is loaded onto the buyers boat which the buyer paid for. transaction done. on to the next.  
the non supporters believe GES does not have the money to do this, evidence by Nilesh bankruptcy, poor online presence, and the million other reasons.
the supporters believe GES does, as evidence by all the counterpoints and information presented.
some believe Urocoin could be bootstrapped, where in the case of Rivaa, IPL pays normal ammt to Rivva through the tender (7.4 million) then Rivaa pays some to GES and GES then pays some to manufacturer, everyone makes some money and the urea isnt coming from thin air. *tinfoil hat theory*

so much blah blah..all these big companies using URO and you see where you are right now.
Rivaa never announced that they used URO to pay UREA. They only wrote that they support UROCOIN. None of them use URO to pay UREA. NONE!!
They are no payments done in URO! it would not be a legal document, get it!

Well this came from Rivaa after the deal when I emailed them to confirm it. https://twitter.com/KlKyle589/status/508373499308953601

So try again.

+1000

[wasobot]

wow the idiots are back at full force XD like 10 pages in few hours;

the 3 idiots are just a waste of oxigen, can someone lock this thread already ?

[Truthful]

FACTS

1. GES has no office in HK. The address they claim that is for GES HK is linked to a company called, “Dunn Global”  http://www.dunnglobal.com/Contact.php

Only known address for GES is Unit 1, 8-10 Mary Pde Rydalmere NSW.
http://www.postcodes-australia.com/postcodes/2116


2. GESAU is involved in the Uro especially since the “Uro Foundation” was registered in Australia. It’s main business location is NSW 2116, which is the same location for GES AU.

To register an unicorporated entity in Australia they must have a business or address in Australia. If it’s a foreign company then they need to register the company with  the Australian Security Investments Commission (ASIC).

GESHK is not registered with ASIC. So that must mean that GESAU was used as the company to help register the Uro Foundation!
GESAU is certainly involved in Uro, as it always was as there’s no address in HK.

Members of an unincorporated entity are personally liable if anything goes wrong. Since you don't know anything about the other so-called NIER's then you will have to sue Nilesh Nair and Bohan Huang.

More information here

http://www.corrs.com.au/assets/thinking/downloads/Doing-Business-in-Australia.pdf

On page 6 it says:

“Companies that are incorporated outside of Australia that wish to carry on business in Australia
must be registered with ASIC.
Unincorporated bodies that do not have their head office or principal place of business in Australia
must also register with ASIC if they wish to carry on business in Australia.”
You can get more information here

http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Registrable+Australian+Bodies#bodies

3. No ship has departed from any port with Urea that was purchased using Uro.

4. There’s been no video from Iran.

5. There’s no information about the other NIER’s

Let's remember that the signature on this doesn't match

http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20CCL%20Pillay%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg

Stephen Lo doesn't have a reputation that suits a so called credible coin, but does for a scam.
http://www.thewhistleblowers.org/?p=32170

Who has heard of the Director of Crown Team Corporation Limited, David Sumarko who lives in Indonesia or Mohamad Zuhri Bin Sukri, who lives in Singapore? Who has heard of any of the people on this document?
http://www.pdf.investintech.com/preview/56694ebc-2d09-11e4-90ae-002590d31986/index.html

Who has heard of Naresh Kumar??
http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20-%20India%20Trading%20Urea%20-%20June%202014.jpg

6. Vinny Pillay of Pillay Group only “knows” of Uro. He directed people to talk to Nilesh Nair.

7.GES is not a multi-international company with multi-million dollar contracts otherwise they’d be hosting the event in HK. Why are people expected to pay for ALL costs involved in this so-called meeting?

8. GES has used its loyal supporters to do all the work for them, from designing logos to manipulating information.

9. Who is Clifton Tang Li?

10. The fact that a “gmail” account is used shows that it allows GESAU to send and reply to emails without you know it came from Australia.

11. Trying to 'sell' or use crypto currency is illegal in Cambodia.

12. Crypto currency hasn't been fully endorsed by Iran.

[wasobot]

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im still wondering why are you still here... if you believe it to be a scam, why are you wasting your time after like 5 months ?

[Truthful]

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im still wondering why are you still here... if you believe it to be a scam, why are you wasting your time after like 5 months ?

Same to you! Why don't you refute something then??

[corather]

........

im still wondering why are you still here... if you believe it to be a scam, why are you wasting your time after like 5 months ?

Same to you! Why don't you refute something then??

Doesn't matter what's refuted, you always have an excuse as to why you believe it's not valid.

[Bitcycle]

Another day, another 50 posts of paid FUD work to do.

[corather]

Another day, another 50 posts of paid FUD work to do.

qft

[wasobot]

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im still wondering why are you still here... if you believe it to be a scam, why are you wasting your time after like 5 months ?

Same to you! Why don't you refute something then??

im actually not wasting knowingly wasting my time , cuz i don't think its a scam
And there is nothing to argue with you, you don't give a shit about uro, you are only having fun fudding and possibly getting payed, and if you are not getting payed you are just a noob.

[jasemoney]

truthful, gugli, chang. go make some real money...
"New Pay per Post Forum Launched Today !"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=771669.0

[lanshop2010]

and trust me, I am working for a very very big company and I have been to many events and i never had to pay money to get in.
specially those startup companies they need to invest money to convince people about their product, not the other way around.

In that case, you should also know that there different types of event formats used by companies. There are public ones which are free to anyone, there are those by invitation only, for business partners and select individuals, and there are paid events to start a seeding fund or for whatever reason the company decides. Paid events are  not uncommon. You have to buy a ticket to get in.

I think the URO SE is more of for business partners, journalist and serious investors where the cost of the ticket or plane fare is of no consequence to them. It's easy to surmise that special guests are sponsored, as you may well know, companies do that all the time.

[Truthful]

Cost of function room Intercontinental Hotel, Hong Kong

http://www.hongkong-ic.intercontinental.com/pdf/meeting/meeting_to_inspire.pdf

http://www.hongkong-ic.intercontinental.com/meeting/delegate.php

Thank you for justifying the price of the UROSE tickets Truthful.
Please continue to be helpful to the community, we may even give you an extra star!

True-Asset please answer these questions

1. Why the lack of professionalism? Aren't you trying to promote GES as a professional multi-international company with multi-million dollar deals?

2. Didn't you know the cost of hiring a function room at the Intercontinental Hotel in Hong Kong? Surely you would have know that prior to advertising such a "special event."

3. Why is there no office in HK? The address you claim where GES HK has an office is for "Dunn Global" http://www.dunnglobal.com/Contact.php


4. Why is the only known address for GES Unit 1, 8-10 Mary Pde Rydalmere NSW 2116?

5. The "Uro Foundation" was registered in AU, so does that mean GES AU are a part of Uro as you need to have a company address in AU to register an unincorporated entity, which is not a charity as you've stated on http://uro.io/ that, "The Uro Foundation is the non-profit volunteer organization..."

Who is doing the volunteering you or the supporters on this forum?

6. Why don't we have any information about the NIER's and why don't we hear anything from them?

7. How much are you going to pay the guest speakers in HK. Surely they are not going to fly from the US to HK. The cost of flights is not cheap. Then accommodation, food etc. They will not present without a fee?

8. Why does Vinny Pillay only "know" of Uro?

9. Who is Clifton Tang Li?

10. Why has there been no video from Iran?

11. How do you plan to use crypto in Cambodia when it's illegal there? http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/nbc-won%E2%80%99t-recognise-bitcoin

12. How do you plan to use crypto in Iran when it's not fully endorsed there?

13. Explain how the signature on this doesn't match

http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20CCL%20Pillay%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg

14. Explain how Stephen Lo doesn't have a reputation that suits a so called credible coin, but does for a scam.
http://www.thewhistleblowers.org/?p=32170

15. Can you provide information about the Director of Crown Team Corporation Limited, David Sumarko who lives in Indonesia or Mohamad Zuhri Bin Sukri, who lives in Singapore?  Explain who the people are on this document.
http://www.pdf.investintech.com/preview/56694ebc-2d09-11e4-90ae-002590d31986/index.html

16. Explain who Naresh Kumar is
http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20-%20India%20Trading%20Urea%20-%20June%202014.jpg


17. Explain why you sent this PM to Hobopete

1540 on page 73: True-Asset attacks Hobopete for supposedly not being loyal when all he was doing was asking legitmate questions and seeking information that many people have been asking. True-Asset said, “I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core.

GES is a multibillion dollar company, and they have nothing to proof to you.

GES does business using many companies they own throughout the world, but none of this is going to be publicised, because they do not wish to publicise it.

If you have not faith, then just sell.

As peoplyou are all too short sighted and sceptical to understand the true scale of GES.

I tried to give the young people here a chance to get a piece of the pie - and it does not seem they care enough to want it.

If you want to now turn against me, then go for it.”

18. Explain why you say you're open to questions and then tell people to do their own research?

19. Why did you remove the above post you made?

20. Explain why there's been no shipment of Urea using Uro as a payment.

You are online now, so please provide some answers.

http://pbrd.co/1rRSibZ

[corather]

Truthful, why are you both paranoid and delusional?

[Truthful]

True-Asset you ask people on this forum to do work for you and you post these messages as well.

http://pasteboard.co/1gVNuJ5.jpg

http://pbrd.co/1rRSR5H

http://pbrd.co/1rRSSXa

Do you only care about whether the money goes into GES bank account?

Please answer these as well

Cost of function room Intercontinental Hotel, Hong Kong

http://www.hongkong-ic.intercontinental.com/pdf/meeting/meeting_to_inspire.pdf

http://www.hongkong-ic.intercontinental.com/meeting/delegate.php

Thank you for justifying the price of the UROSE tickets Truthful.
Please continue to be helpful to the community, we may even give you an extra star!

True-Asset please answer these questions

1. Why the lack of professionalism? Aren't you trying to promote GES as a professional multi-international company with multi-million dollar deals?

2. Didn't you know the cost of hiring a function room at the Intercontinental Hotel in Hong Kong? Surely you would have know that prior to advertising such a "special event."

3. Why is there no office in HK? The address you claim where GES HK has an office is for "Dunn Global" http://www.dunnglobal.com/Contact.php


4. Why is the only known address for GES Unit 1, 8-10 Mary Pde Rydalmere NSW 2116?

5. The "Uro Foundation" was registered in AU, so does that mean GES AU are a part of Uro as you need to have a company address in AU to register an unincorporated entity, which is not a charity as you've stated on http://uro.io/ that, "The Uro Foundation is the non-profit volunteer organization..."

Who is doing the volunteering you or the supporters on this forum?

6. Why don't we have any information about the NIER's and why don't we hear anything from them?

7. How much are you going to pay the guest speakers in HK. Surely they are not going to fly from the US to HK. The cost of flights is not cheap. Then accommodation, food etc. They will not present without a fee?

8. Why does Vinny Pillay only "know" of Uro?

9. Who is Clifton Tang Li?

10. Why has there been no video from Iran?

11. How do you plan to use crypto in Cambodia when it's illegal there? http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/nbc-won%E2%80%99t-recognise-bitcoin

12. How do you plan to use crypto in Iran when it's not fully endorsed there?

13. Explain how the signature on this doesn't match

http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20CCL%20Pillay%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg

14. Explain how Stephen Lo doesn't have a reputation that suits a so called credible coin, but does for a scam.
http://www.thewhistleblowers.org/?p=32170

15. Can you provide information about the Director of Crown Team Corporation Limited, David Sumarko who lives in Indonesia or Mohamad Zuhri Bin Sukri, who lives in Singapore?  Explain who the people are on this document.
http://www.pdf.investintech.com/preview/56694ebc-2d09-11e4-90ae-002590d31986/index.html

16. Explain who Naresh Kumar is
http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20-%20India%20Trading%20Urea%20-%20June%202014.jpg


17. Explain why you sent this PM to Hobopete

1540 on page 73: True-Asset attacks Hobopete for supposedly not being loyal when all he was doing was asking legitmate questions and seeking information that many people have been asking. True-Asset said, “I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core.

GES is a multibillion dollar company, and they have nothing to proof to you.

GES does business using many companies they own throughout the world, but none of this is going to be publicised, because they do not wish to publicise it.

If you have not faith, then just sell.

As peoplyou are all too short sighted and sceptical to understand the true scale of GES.

I tried to give the young people here a chance to get a piece of the pie - and it does not seem they care enough to want it.

If you want to now turn against me, then go for it.”

18. Explain why you say you're open to questions and then tell people to do their own research?

19. Why did you remove the above post you made?

20. Explain why there's been no shipment of Urea using Uro as a payment.

You are online now, so please provide some answers.

http://pbrd.co/1rRSibZ

[corather]

https://bitcoincambodia.com/

https://www.kipochi.com/cambodia/bitcoin

Yes, bitcoin is oh so illegal in Cambodia. Hahahaha.

[Truthful]

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/nbc-won%E2%80%99t-recognise-bitcoin

[corather]

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/nbc-won%E2%80%99t-recognise-bitcoin

"The 26-year-old 3D-printing business owner and martial-arts trainer said the NBC’s comments would have no effect on the success of bitcoin in Cambodia."

Makes no difference, people will still use it.