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July 12, 2014, 10:57:06 PM |
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If you want to hold bitcoin; HODL it CODL.
good one. gonna start using that.
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pirsquared
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July 12, 2014, 11:18:20 PM |
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But the biggest mistake op made was storing his password in plain text doesn't matter where its stored on an offline computer or on a cloud you should never have your wallet passwords stored in plain text. Tips for other users: use password safe http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ or keepassx http://www.keepassx.org/ -where passwords are stored in an encrypted database. Tips for other users: Use paper that looks like trash. Put the paper in an envelope. Tell no one. Don't use online services to store valuable information. If you need digital backups, use Tails with a persistent drive that is encrypted and store it locally. I'm really sorry for the OP's loss. Thieves are dirt, but it's not a bad idea to sweep your goodies under a rug somewhere.
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July 12, 2014, 11:25:55 PM |
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If you want to hold bitcoin; HODL it CODL.
good one. gonna start using that. Thank you. The past few months in the BTC world have been a bit trying for me as well - although not nearly to the tune of the OP.
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July 12, 2014, 11:32:30 PM |
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Back in the day (2012) I kept a copy of my Litecoin wallet in my email as a backup. This was when they were worth much much less in total than now.
Glad I moved the coins in 2012 and did not leave them there.
I think due to all of the hacking and bad news of people losing money to scams and hackings it forced me to be waaaay more cautious with my coins.
Everything is locked down and not easily accessed.
Security is THE most important aspect of Bitcoin.
Sorry for the OP's loss.
I would be willing to send you ONE of my 2013 gold plated 1 oz silver 1 BTC coins (unfunded of course) assembled with the Lealana Bitcoin hologram etc for free sent via regular first-class mail. If you want it of course.
PM me your email so I can get your information.
Aloha,
Smoothie
Any chance you can teach us your security ? I am always on 2FA but is it same enought ?
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July 12, 2014, 11:33:16 PM |
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I do recommend you get the word out. Send an email to some of the Bitcoin news networks so they at least write a post about it. If you have any more btc get them safe right away, no excuses. Other then that I don't think you can get them back to be honest.
You won't see too much at the top off any bitcoin related news site that pertains to theft. Most bitcoin related sites are heavily vested in bitcoin and are reluctant to promote thefts as news; as this decreases adoption. I've seen it happen multiple times on reddit and this forum. Thefts/hacks get buried in sub-forums and downvoted on reddit. Bitcoin is the wild west of financial markets right now. We have some growing up to do as a community. Those with vested interests do not want bad news on the front page. If you want to hold bitcoin; HODL it CODL. EDIT: this has been moved to services discussion in order to not have talk of theft/hack on the front page of bitcointalk.org. This is important; and moving it from the main forum is bullshit. Exactly what service is being discussed in this thread for you mods out there? Are we discussing dropbox? It's no wonder AA left the foundation. The foundation is a bunch of new's skewers and political panderers. AA may be one the few decent humans left in the BTC world. The day he leaves blockchain.info is the day I leave bitcoin altogether.
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July 12, 2014, 11:37:17 PM |
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AA may be one the few decent humans left in the BTC world. The day he leaves blockchain.info is the day I leave bitcoin altogether.
lol who?
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jonald_fyookball
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July 12, 2014, 11:37:27 PM |
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Back in the day (2012) I kept a copy of my Litecoin wallet in my email as a backup. This was when they were worth much much less in total than now.
Glad I moved the coins in 2012 and did not leave them there.
I think due to all of the hacking and bad news of people losing money to scams and hackings it forced me to be waaaay more cautious with my coins.
Everything is locked down and not easily accessed.
Security is THE most important aspect of Bitcoin.
Sorry for the OP's loss.
I would be willing to send you ONE of my 2013 gold plated 1 oz silver 1 BTC coins (unfunded of course) assembled with the Lealana Bitcoin hologram etc for free sent via regular first-class mail. If you want it of course.
PM me your email so I can get your information.
Aloha,
Smoothie
Any chance you can teach us your security ? I am always on 2FA but is it same enought ? 2FA is better than no 2FA....but cold storage is better. AA = Andreas Antonopolous.
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July 12, 2014, 11:39:44 PM |
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I've got to say that this topic is fairly popular. I don't know if its due to people like to read about misery of others or it is quite sensational news for majority of this forum I think. One question, with so many btc how the hell your security was so low
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July 12, 2014, 11:43:00 PM |
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i'd rather stord my password on a text file in usb drive than using a software for it. .
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July 12, 2014, 11:43:40 PM |
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AA may be one the few decent humans left in the BTC world. The day he leaves blockchain.info is the day I leave bitcoin altogether.
lol who? Andreas Antonopoulis = AA
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July 12, 2014, 11:45:35 PM |
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Not to give the guy too many ideas, or encourage others on the forum, but I just want to point out that this is incorrect.
Let me use an example:-
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1) send a multitude of periodic transactions to obscure exchanges with small amounts to different accounts, maybe use new ones every time ( there are tons of other exchanges now, much smaller and discreet than the big ones, all reputable) 2) Sell coins and send fiat to numbered accounts of unregistered visa cards 3) Go to ATMs and cash out 4) As an extra layer of security, rotate the ATMs you use.
And to top it all off, there is no guarantee the hacker is in a jurisdiction in which the hackeds' country's laws have effect, so even if you find him, short of illegal means, there is little recourse.
This is kind of my point: when the hacker is located, there will be plenty of people who will be prepared to operate outside the legal system to affect a recovery. I don't want to be seen as condoning or encouraging this, btw, but Klees bounty will attract some unscrupulous people.
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July 12, 2014, 11:49:43 PM |
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AA may be one the few decent humans left in the BTC world. The day he leaves blockchain.info is the day I leave bitcoin altogether.
lol who? Andreas Antonopoulis = AA No disrespect, but I don't think you really understand Andreas' message if you would say that. One the key points he always makes is that Bitcoin is a consensus algorithm in which you don't NEED people to be honest. I agree, Andreas is a great mind and stand up guy. But Bitcoin will work the same with or without him... and who cares if he leaves the Blockchain company? Bitcoin is about the technology not about the personalities of key people. And this theft, while tragic, also serves to reflect the fact that the system doesn't work if used improperly.
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July 13, 2014, 12:01:21 AM |
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Damn that absolutely blows... I really hope a miracle happens and the thief does something incredibly stupid to get himself revealed.
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July 13, 2014, 12:06:14 AM |
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AA may be one the few decent humans left in the BTC world. The day he leaves blockchain.info is the day I leave bitcoin altogether.
lol who? Andreas Antonopoulis = AA No disrespect, but I don't think you really understand Andreas' message if you would say that. One the key points he always makes is that Bitcoin is a consensus algorithm in which you don't NEED people to be honest. I agree, Andreas is a great mind and stand up guy. But Bitcoin will work the same with or without him... and who cares if he leaves the Blockchain company? Bitcoin is about the technology not about the personalities of key people. And this theft, while tragic, also serves to reflect the fact that the system doesn't work if used improperly. I agree with you. My previous statement was a kneejerk comment based upon issues that both I and others have had with third party services. I am fully confident in bitcoin as both a network protocol and a means of exchange. It is still pertinent and valid to consider AA's exodus from the foundation. For whatever reason, we still need trusted third parties to help simplify an otherwise trustless system. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Now, let's get on to helping this fella get his coin back.
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July 13, 2014, 12:11:02 AM |
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Is he still alive and well?
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July 13, 2014, 12:17:51 AM |
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It looks like they are in a mixer.
All he is doing is breaking them down into multiple multiple smaller amounts with a script (which seems to break every so often, as we are up to 10 confirmations on the 400BTC and 210BTC). The origins of the coins are still clear, so no mixing is happening. He may not be confident to use a mixer, as he may not sure if the mixing service will freeze his funds (obviously stolen funds). Have BITMIXER.IO made any comment on whether they are happy to mix obviously stolen coins? ... It would be very irresponsible to not mix stolen funds like that. It would put into question the fungibility of bitcoin. With that being said they very well could keep logs of the transactions of the thief and disclose what the ultimate output address is. 500BTC is a lot more than 0.5% fee of 1170BTC. I don't imagine anyone who sets up a bitcoin laundering mixer operation is a trustworthy member of society, so they might easily screw the hacker over for that reward. The hacker really can trust NO ONE. Paranoia will be his only friend from now on.
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July 13, 2014, 12:20:00 AM |
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AA may be one the few decent humans left in the BTC world. The day he leaves blockchain.info is the day I leave bitcoin altogether.
lol who? Andreas Antonopoulis = AA No disrespect, but I don't think you really understand Andreas' message if you would say that. One the key points he always makes is that Bitcoin is a consensus algorithm in which you don't NEED people to be honest. I agree, Andreas is a great mind and stand up guy. But Bitcoin will work the same with or without him... and who cares if he leaves the Blockchain company? Bitcoin is about the technology not about the personalities of key people. And this theft, while tragic, also serves to reflect the fact that the system doesn't work if used improperly. I agree with you. My previous statement was a kneejerk comment based upon issues that both I and others have had with third party services. I am fully confident in bitcoin as both a network protocol and a means of exchange. It is still pertinent and valid to consider AA's exodus from the foundation. For whatever reason, we still need trusted third parties to help simplify an otherwise trustless system. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Now, let's get on to helping this fella get his coin back. Comedy gold right here. Could the echo chamber get any worse?
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July 13, 2014, 12:32:55 AM |
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AA may be one the few decent humans left in the BTC world. The day he leaves blockchain.info is the day I leave bitcoin altogether.
lol who? Andreas Antonopoulis = AA No disrespect, but I don't think you really understand Andreas' message if you would say that. One the key points he always makes is that Bitcoin is a consensus algorithm in which you don't NEED people to be honest. I agree, Andreas is a great mind and stand up guy. But Bitcoin will work the same with or without him... and who cares if he leaves the Blockchain company? Bitcoin is about the technology not about the personalities of key people. And this theft, while tragic, also serves to reflect the fact that the system doesn't work if used improperly. I agree with you. My previous statement was a kneejerk comment based upon issues that both I and others have had with third party services. I am fully confident in bitcoin as both a network protocol and a means of exchange. It is still pertinent and valid to consider AA's exodus from the foundation. For whatever reason, we still need trusted third parties to help simplify an otherwise trustless system. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Now, let's get on to helping this fella get his coin back. Comedy gold right here. Could the echo chamber get any worse? I had to wiki "echo chamber" to understand your comment; but I still don't understand your comment. I think the discussion you would like to have is best left out of this thread. The OP may have lost a chunk of change here, and posters should avoid posting self-promoting and distracting information. This is the last time I will be guilty of such a thing. PM me if you would like to elaborate.
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July 13, 2014, 12:45:55 AM |
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I also fail to see any "comedy gold" here. Obviously, basic tenants of Bitcoin security cannot be repeated often enough if we still have incidents like this happening.
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