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July 17, 2014, 02:44:29 PM
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That is to much btc to lose... I hope you find this bastard and bring him to justice. my account been hacked but i have not lost as much as you have



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July 17, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
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Money laundering is never a crime. They made it a "crime" because they are too bad at catching people for real crimes such as theft.
OK, I will change my stance to:  money laundering is currently a crime in many/most countries however bitcoin mixing is not money laundering.  Good enough?

Almost, but not quite.  How about "money laundering has been declared a crime by the scribbles of politicians in many/most countries".  The distinction matters, because what a man who thinks he has the authority to define right/wrong says versus actual reality is very different.  In some countries chewing gum has been declared a crime by politicians.  Has morality changed?  Is chewing gum somehow now an immoral activity worthy of punishment?  

Money "laundering" in and of itself is not a crime; however laundering stolen money is, and knowingly aiding and abetting someone who is trying to launder stolen money should be punished.

Money laundering is never a crime. They made it a "crime" because they are too bad at catching people for real crimes such as theft.

The law defines what's "crime".  Money laundering is a crime in most countries. You can argue all you want "you made it crime because you are not good at catching people" in the court, all you want, but that kind of defense won't stand a chance.



The "law" is comprised of arbitrary scribbles of men who think they have the right to tell YOU what is right and what is wrong.  Don't fall into the trap of accepting what politicians say as absolute truth.  Their "law" is flawed.  If you're not hurting anyone, you're not committing a crime.

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July 17, 2014, 04:17:56 PM
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The "law" is comprised of arbitrary scribbles of men who think they have the right to tell YOU what is right and what is wrong.  Don't fall into the trap of accepting what politicians say as absolute truth.  Their "law" is flawed.  If you're not hurting anyone, you're not committing a crime.

This may well be true, unfortunately in the real world just because you may disagree with a law, certainly does not invalidate it. If you break the laws of the land, and it is serious enough, you get sent to prison.

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July 17, 2014, 04:30:35 PM
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Im sory but I wish this thread was taken down I feel bad for the Op but how come you didnt take precaution with that much bitcoins?  I really would throw up if this was me, you must be rich then,  Im gonna pray for you dude and your soul, I had rather donated all the btc for a good cause then to lose it to some scum bag loser who has no life to hack other peoples money.  

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July 17, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
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"An honest mixer"  Huh Surely an oxymoron.

Can't think of any reason other than illegal that would require coins to be mixed. But am prepared to be educated otherwise.

Don't be one of those.

Just because people want privacy, doesn't mean they are doing something illegal.

If that were the case, we would make rest room walls and stalls all transparent.
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July 17, 2014, 07:41:05 PM
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"An honest mixer"  Huh Surely an oxymoron.

Can't think of any reason other than illegal that would require coins to be mixed. But am prepared to be educated otherwise.

Don't be one of those.

Just because people want privacy, doesn't mean they are doing something illegal.

If that were the case, we would make rest room walls and stalls all transparent.


Just because something is illegal in some state somewhere doesn't mean it's wrong.

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July 17, 2014, 07:44:37 PM
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First time I saw this thread today...Can't believe what you must be going through!  I wish I knew more about hacking so I could help you trace this guy down.

Unfortunately I am still learning as much as I can!

Hope the best for you
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July 17, 2014, 08:22:10 PM
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@Klee What is the latest status. Have u been able to gather any more info ? Are u trying to sue BitMixer ?

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July 17, 2014, 09:31:16 PM
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i don't understand the premise of an "honest" mixer. what qualifies them to decide whose coins are whose?

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July 17, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
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zolace and leex1528, good job, you got your primedice posts for today.  Excellent work.

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July 17, 2014, 10:01:39 PM
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Okay, so reading from where i left of the other day.

1. If you have a "new idea", please start a new thread, perhaps under "Project Development" or "General Discussions", there is a reason we have such sections..
2. If you are using the thread to make the posts count for your signature, CONGRATULATIONS.
3. Still no comments from KLEE, after the lead of twitter messages, is he still gone for the day? with almost $700K stolen from him? and not to forget the community funds of 10Mil NXT, which did not belong to him in entirety?

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July 18, 2014, 02:01:18 AM
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i don't understand the premise of an "honest" mixer. what qualifies them to decide whose coins are whose?

They exist because people want them, whether or not you understand the premise. And why does anyone have to be qualified to start a mixer, and who would do the qualifying?

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July 18, 2014, 03:56:57 AM
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why would anybody use an honest mixer that disclosed information ?
why does some one that have nothing to hide even need to use a mixer ?
some of you have been banging of for page after page about some legit mixer, what for ?
why not start your own mixer that you need to give ID to and see how many customers you get.

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July 18, 2014, 04:06:23 AM
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I want this bounty so badly and i'm joining in on this ish.
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July 18, 2014, 04:26:08 AM
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I think the time to see the real bounty hunters is coming, let them to trace him down!

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July 18, 2014, 06:36:36 AM
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Money laundering is never a crime. They made it a "crime" because they are too bad at catching people for real crimes such as theft.
OK, I will change my stance to:  money laundering is currently a crime in many/most countries however bitcoin mixing is not money laundering.  Good enough?

Almost, but not quite.  How about "money laundering has been declared a crime by the scribbles of politicians in many/most countries".  The distinction matters, because what a man who thinks he has the authority to define right/wrong says versus actual reality is very different.  In some countries chewing gum has been declared a crime by politicians.  Has morality changed?  Is chewing gum somehow now an immoral activity worthy of punishment?  

Money "laundering" in and of itself is not a crime; however laundering stolen money is, and knowingly aiding and abetting someone who is trying to launder stolen money should be punished.

Money laundering is never a crime. They made it a "crime" because they are too bad at catching people for real crimes such as theft.

The law defines what's "crime".  Money laundering is a crime in most countries. You can argue all you want "you made it crime because you are not good at catching people" in the court, all you want, but that kind of defense won't stand a chance.



The "law" is comprised of arbitrary scribbles of men who think they have the right to tell YOU what is right and what is wrong.  Don't fall into the trap of accepting what politicians say as absolute truth.  Their "law" is flawed.  If you're not hurting anyone, you're not committing a crime.

Offtopic : In most countries, governments are voted in by the people, and the majority keep them there. They then make the laws, based on what the majority want. If you are in the minority, and you did not vote for them, you simply outnumbered and they will tell you what to do.

Let's just forget about all this politics, and concentrate on what is right and what is wrong.

1. It was wrong, when the hacker entered his private dropbox. {Did he give him permission?}
2. It was wrong to monitor his actions and to time his attack {Invasion of privacy} ---> The very thing, you guys are saying mixer services are protecting. {your privacy}
3. It was wrong when the "coins" was taken from his wallet, with a stolen password. {That is theft}
4. It was wrong when a legit service was used to mix coins, in a attempt to "clean" them.
5. It was wrong to rub in the salt, into a open wound. {Emails to the victim, keeping him hostage, to get his own property back}

Yes Klee made mistakes and we learn through our mistakes. {Nobody is perfect} A Ethical {White hat} hacker would exploit vulnrabilities and inform the entity without claiming "bounty".

This is obviously not a white hat hacker, you dealing with.

Klee if I were you, try to establish contact with this person, and negotiate a return of your money, with a offer for a reward. {Paying for the lesson, you have learned}

This thread and the other thread is just harming your cause. {Screaming / negative comments from people not involved / threats will have negative consequences in my opinion}

Pay a team of legitimate hackers and forensic experts to track him/her down and deal with this in the courts or settle out of court, to save you even more stress.

And get some sleep. {You need a clear head, to make the right decisions}

Good luck, we will stand behind, what is right in this world. 

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July 18, 2014, 08:31:50 AM
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https://blockchain.info/address/1P58dDv2TtXcBps6xx1waJ7Rzq2XTm3YL2

This is one big chunk I found.

I noticed that it constantly moves through this server in Germany.

5.9.24.81

Seems like a P2Pool node or something.

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July 18, 2014, 10:00:55 AM
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my two satoshi:

the first moment this hacker had and idea to try take OP coins was the moment where all feelings should be put on a side. and hard punishment should be given.
OP was working hard (I hope ) to have this ammount of btc.

what kind of message this thread will send to others wannabe hackers? what if OP again will become a victim because he was try to be better than hacker?

track him down, name it, shame it and take it to the court.

get what's yours OP and don't show them you scared to give punishment.  If this is someone who is known to you....ohh brother, I woukd know what to do then.
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July 18, 2014, 10:27:20 AM
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why would anybody use an honest mixer that disclosed information ?
why does some one that have nothing to hide even need to use a mixer ?
some of you have been banging of for page after page about some legit mixer, what for ?
why not start your own mixer that you need to give ID to and see how many customers you get.
No one ever ever said people had to use an ID to use this type of mixer. More bs and making up shit that NO ONE SAID.

As you keep trying to put people off discussion in this thread, do you have some vested interest in the hacker getting away with it or bitmixer's business?

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July 18, 2014, 12:30:55 PM
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zolace and leex1528, good job, you got your primedice posts for today.  Excellent work.

Sorry BurtW, Stunna only counts constructive posts, seeing as my post was not constructive, it will not count.  I was just letting Klee know I feel for him, again, this post is not constructive either...so it won't count.

Grow up man, there are actually genuinely nice people out there not trying to just make money.


Sorry for small thread derail....Would still like to hear what happens
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