Mini-Rig from Butterflylabs

[BFL-Engineer]

Hello Everyone,

We wanted to evaluate the market and ask our fellow customers whether a Mini-Rig operating
at 25 GH/s and priced at half price (15K$) and consuming around 1.2KW would be something they
consider or not.

All suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcome.


Regards,
BFL

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[deepceleron]

You need to design something that is below 1500w current draw, so it can be used on a normal household circuit. With the 5x more power usage per hash than your original specification, "rigbox" can't be plugged into anything beyond a specialized circuit with a high-amperage nema plug.

You should have a rackmount backplane that can take single-equivalent cards, so a "blade server" can come with a few, and be upgradeable to ~20. With adequate cooling blowing in the right direction.

[worldinacoin]

I think that you may try to setup a hire purchase scheme, 15k is quite a lot of money to fork out.  Also how are we going to be sure on the warranty part

[nedbert9]

A smaller rig unit under 1800w would be a plus.  ~15k would increase the market.

Any additional MH/w enhancement would be spectacular.

[jamesg]

Hello Everyone,

We wanted to evaluate the market and ask our fellow customers whether a Mini-Rig operating
at 25 GH/s and priced at half price (15K$) and consuming around 1.2KW would be something they
consider or not.

All suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcome.


Reagrds,
BFL

I'll take 4 please.

[Fefox]

Very Interested, (as soon as my rigbox is delivered)

[siggy]

Hello Everyone,

We wanted to evaluate the market and ask our fellow customers whether a Mini-Rig operating
at 25 GH/s and priced at half price (15K$) and consuming around 1.2KW would be something they
consider or not.

All suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcome.


Reagrds,
BFL

translation:  Holy crap are we having difficulty keeping the Rig cool.  Can't just add a fan to the bottom this time.  While we work on this, lets rip out half the cores and cut the price in half.

And YES, I'll be interested.  At 25K you were right at the bleeding edge of my avaliable funds.  At 30K I'm priced out.  At 15K (even for half the performance) I'll definately be buying one.

Sigg

[malevolent]

Hello Everyone,

We wanted to evaluate the market and ask our fellow customers whether a Mini-Rig operating
at 25 GH/s and priced at half price (15K$) and consuming around 1.2KW would be something they
consider or not.

All suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcome.


Reagrds,
BFL

If this is the price after taxes/duties/shipping to EU countries (or you manage to ship from EU) I'll be interested.
EDIT: You HAVE to provide decent warranty. That means at least 24 months, this is the min. what GPU manufacturers provide. Note that GPUs are possible to resell if bitcoin crashes again or to use for other tasks apart from mining.

You need to design something that is below 1500w current draw, so it can be used on a normal household circuit. With the 5x more power usage per hash than your original specification, "rigbox" can't be plugged into anything beyond a specialized circuit with a high-amperage nema plug.

Sure it can, depends on where you live. We have 16A 230V household citcuits here.

[Fiyasko]

It would be Stupid for BFL to build one that uses >1500Watts
Nobody on the western half of the world would want one, Because they'd have to unplug a furnace or something just to run it.

a "mini rig box"? FUCK YES, ID DEFINITLY PURCHASE THAT IF I HAD THE MONEY.
A BFL Cube? FUUUUUUUUUuuuuuu i need one.
a rigbox? Frigoff, Im not rewiring my house

[PulsedMedia]

My mining operation is rather small even after current upgrades, but priced at 15k $ i might be able to justify the cost come next winter, 25-30k $ definitively not.
Also depends upon warranty (and insurance terms) i can get for the device.
But if i decide to go for it, expect steady purchases for new ones every few months.

and yeah around 1500W is the sweetspot, can have 2x on 16A circuit. Then again, almost all industrial + DC circuits around here are 25A.
Some offices have only 10A. The gap can be filled with FPGA miners or Sngles

[Gomeler]

I'd like to see something in the $5k range.  This way I can..

1) spread them out
2) if one goes down I don't lose all production
3) expand the farm more often

[this time]

Will these be stand alone units with ethernet or will they have to be usb connected to a computer?

[rjk]

If you could have a 1500 watt PSU at 120 VAC, but only be using 80% or less of its capacity, that would be an excellent sweet spot, because that would be just right for a common 15 amp US circuit. Any more than that and people would have to use less common 20 amp circuits.

[Jaryu]

Hello Everyone,

We wanted to evaluate the market and ask our fellow customers whether a Mini-Rig operating
at 25 GH/s and priced at half price (15K$) and consuming around 1.2KW would be something they
consider or not.

All suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcome.


Reagrds,
BFL

if you can deliver it in the next few weeks, I'll take one. if you guys can stick it into a 1u case all the better, would make storing those things much easier here in the garage.

[Scared]

Hello Everyone,

We wanted to evaluate the market and ask our fellow customers whether a Mini-Rig operating
at 25 GH/s and priced at half price (15K$) and consuming around 1.2KW would be something they
consider or not.

All suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcome.


Reagrds,
BFL

I'd buy it today since I'm moving in the direction of FPGA. I've already bought 10 singles from you and I get $0.75 per Mhash on them. What your proposing would bring my cost down to $0.60 and who doesn't like to pay less. It's only marginally more expensive then the RigBox at $0.56. Btw I don't have to pay for electricity so I don't factor in that cost in my decisions.

Since you don't provide a warranty and there's no idea how long these boards will last before failure it's hard to invest in them. I would really like to see you guys provide a warranty on your products. It would also help if we knew what value they have outside of Bitcoin mining. Your website says they have other uses but I can't find any information on it.

Thanks for a great product and I look forward to the Mini-Rig!

[rjk]

I'd buy it today since I'm moving in the direction of FPGA. I've already bought 10 singles from you and I get $0.75 per Mhash on them. What your proposing would bring my cost down to $0.60 and who doesn't like to pay less. It's only marginally more expensive then the RigBox at $0.56. Btw I don't have to pay for electricity so I don't factor in that cost in my decisions.

Since you don't provide a warranty and there's no idea how long these boards will last before failure it's hard to invest in them. I would really like to see you guys provide a warranty on your products. It would also help if we knew what value they have outside of Bitcoin mining. Your website says they have other uses but I can't find any information on it.

Thanks for a great product and I look forward to the Mini-Rig!

The singles have a 6 month warranty, which is longer than any other similar product with the exception of Ztex's 2 year warranty.

[abbeytim]

why dont you worry about just getting the singles out not all of us have them yet that ordered them

[malevolent]

The singles have a 6 month warranty, which is longer than any other similar product with the exception of Ztex's 2 year warranty.

GPUs have 2 years to lifetime warranties.

[rjk]

The singles have a 6 month warranty, which is longer than any other similar product with the exception of Ztex's 2 year warranty.

GPUs have 2 years to lifetime warranties.

I was just correcting his statement of "no warranty at all".

[awigaxeh-443]

I think you should work on the singles producing 1 gigahash, most people do not have thousands of dollars to spend on 1 unit but would rather build upon each unit that they buy.