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Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
And they are most likely on welfare and keep spreading like wildfire. In 10-20 years, that 15% going to become at least 40%. No offense but that sounds like a totally made up number. There are more and more Latinos in the US but it's not like they are the majority, yet. Although I think whites won't be greater than 50 percent in the next few decades. Depends what region you live in too I guess
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July 25, 2014, 07:27:05 AM |
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No offense but that sounds like a totally made up number. There are more and more Latinos in the US but it's not like they are the majority, yet. Although I think whites won't be greater than 50 percent in the next few decades. Depends what region you live in too I guess
Latinos are already approaching the majority mark in several of the big US states, such as Texas and California. And as of 2013, white births were less than 50% of all the American births. Coming back to France, the 15% mark will surely go up in the next few decades. It may not reach 40%, but 25% to 30% is possible by 2050.
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July 25, 2014, 09:08:43 AM |
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The France shoudn't let the Palestinian ppl increase too much otherwise some social problems will arise. The immigration should mix.
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July 25, 2014, 09:24:31 PM |
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No offense but that sounds like a totally made up number. There are more and more Latinos in the US but it's not like they are the majority, yet. Although I think whites won't be greater than 50 percent in the next few decades. Depends what region you live in too I guess
Latinos are already approaching the majority mark in several of the big US states, such as Texas and California. And as of 2013, white births were less than 50% of all the American births. Coming back to France, the 15% mark will surely go up in the next few decades. It may not reach 40%, but 25% to 30% is possible by 2050. People tends to easily forgets the origins of the immigration in France. Such as 1- Africans including north-africans (arabs) that helped liberate France and Europe at the cost of their lives, and the ones that survived and lived in France made several generations 2- the reconstruction of France after world war II and the economic boom of France in the 60 required a lot of working force, hence a lot of people were brought from African and north african countries to help with this 3- the part of youth you see on the street the ones that are from arab ethnicities, are mostly a third 4th or even 5th generation from an immigrant family, and they are totally French but some people seems to forget these parts. But this whole point is derailling from the thread "Anti-Israel protesters rally across France" I personally find the abbreviation of this title misleading and partially wrong : the demonstrations are not ANTI-Israel , as in they don't want the existance of Israel or it destruction, but they are against the Politics of Israel towards palestinians and the massacre happening in Gaza.
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July 26, 2014, 02:33:16 AM |
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The France shoudn't let the Palestinian ppl increase too much otherwise some social problems will arise. The immigration should mix.
I don't think the problem is immigration throughout europe but rather that people are very misinformed.
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July 26, 2014, 02:34:43 AM |
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All of which should not be allowed to detract from the fact that Israel is legally and morally on thin ice here
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July 26, 2014, 06:20:02 AM |
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No offense but that sounds like a totally made up number. There are more and more Latinos in the US but it's not like they are the majority, yet. Although I think whites won't be greater than 50 percent in the next few decades. Depends what region you live in too I guess
Latinos are already approaching the majority mark in several of the big US states, such as Texas and California. And as of 2013, white births were less than 50% of all the American births. Coming back to France, the 15% mark will surely go up in the next few decades. It may not reach 40%, but 25% to 30% is possible by 2050. Immigrants really are taking over the modernized world.
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July 26, 2014, 09:54:35 AM |
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All of which should not be allowed to detract from the fact that Israel is legally and morally on thin ice here
Israel can literally do whatever it wants. Why because It has a big brother watching over it and no one wants to fuck with the little bro because they'll have to deal with the big bro. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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July 26, 2014, 11:22:05 AM |
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I think you need to investigate a little more before you draw conclusions and to hear both sides, I can tell you that Israel does rightly seizes Gaza, because it could give the citizens live in fear.
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July 26, 2014, 11:30:57 AM |
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3- the part of youth you see on the street the ones that are from arab ethnicities, are mostly a third 4th or even 5th generation from an immigrant family, and they are totally French but some people seems to forget these parts.
Come here, go in their fucking ghetto and ask them if they feel French ! stupid ! You really live in a fairy tale...
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July 26, 2014, 11:40:22 AM |
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Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
Uhh because they are likely mostly French nationals and have a right to live there. I'm sure that the countries in North Africa that were invaded and became part of the French Colonial Empire were thrilled when their culture was changed. You don't have to be Muslim to be disgusted by what's happening with Israel and Palestine right now.
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July 26, 2014, 11:44:12 AM |
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All of which should not be allowed to detract from the fact that Israel is legally and morally on thin ice here
Israel can literally do whatever it wants. Why because It has a big brother watching over it and no one wants to fuck with the little bro because they'll have to deal with the big bro. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Wait, because Syria gave a fuck when they butchered 200k of their own people so far? Or the millions the Chinese have? Or maybe the the millions of North-Koreans. Oh wait, the majority of the world didn't even give a fuck. That's right. In 2nd thought, they did care, when they tried to blame Israel to what's going on Syria. Seems legit. Not. Well, that happens when the majority of the countries out there are dictatorships and/or opposing the western countries.
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July 26, 2014, 01:00:25 PM |
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I'm sure that the countries in North Africa that were invaded and became part of the French Colonial Empire were thrilled when their culture was changed.
What's your point ? And French empire build a lot of infrastructure there... Now French colony who stay in France are far better than Algeria...
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July 26, 2014, 01:11:01 PM |
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I'm sure that the countries in North Africa that were invaded and became part of the French Colonial Empire were thrilled when their culture was changed.
What's your point ? And French empire build a lot of infrastructure there... Now French colony who stay in France are far better than Algeria... My point is that many of those Muslim's who DodoB was referring to below are based in France precisely because the French invaded the countries which their families originated. Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
Many of the Muslims that are protesting will have families originating from French Colonial North African countries and therefore have as much right as any of the French to be there and voice their opinion.
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July 26, 2014, 01:17:21 PM |
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I'm sure that the countries in North Africa that were invaded and became part of the French Colonial Empire were thrilled when their culture was changed.
What's your point ? And French empire build a lot of infrastructure there... Now French colony who stay in France are far better than Algeria... My point is that many of those Muslim's who DodoB was referring to below are based in France precisely because the French invaded the countries which their families originated. Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
Many of the Muslims that are protesting will have families originating from French Colonial North African countries and therefore have as much right as any of the French to be there and voice their opinion. A nation or a culture is usually being conquered for many good reasons. They need to either change their way and evolve with rest of the world or leave the country and stop dragging everyone down with them.
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July 26, 2014, 01:30:01 PM |
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My point is that many of those Muslim's who DodoB was referring to below are based in France precisely because the French invaded the countries which their families originated.
They are here just for political reason (they are leftist...), was a great error to import them cause they do too much damage.
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July 26, 2014, 01:36:33 PM |
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I'm sure that the countries in North Africa that were invaded and became part of the French Colonial Empire were thrilled when their culture was changed.
What's your point ? And French empire build a lot of infrastructure there... Now French colony who stay in France are far better than Algeria... My point is that many of those Muslim's who DodoB was referring to below are based in France precisely because the French invaded the countries which their families originated. Irony how most of the protesters are Muslim. I still dont know why france didnt kick them out.
Many of the Muslims that are protesting will have families originating from French Colonial North African countries and therefore have as much right as any of the French to be there and voice their opinion. A nation or a culture is usually being conquered for many good reasons. They need to either change their way and evolve with rest of the world or leave the country and stop dragging everyone down with them. I'm not sure if that statement you made is intentionally ambiguous/left open to interpretation. But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.
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July 26, 2014, 01:42:18 PM |
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But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.
In fact the European empire give a lot to this world.
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But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.
Those with the ability to conquer have the social, economic and technology advantage on their side. They have earn the right to shape other future. Those who are being conquered should learn their mistake adopt to new way of doing things. Should they correct their mistakes, they too have the right to do the same to their enemies.
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July 26, 2014, 02:11:39 PM |
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But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.
Those with the ability to conquer have the social, economic and technology advantage on their side. They have earn the right to shape other future. Those who are being conquered should learn their mistake adopt to new way of doing things. Should they correct their mistakse, they too have the right to do the same to their enemies. And I suppose all those innocent men, women and children killed in the so called conquering are simply a cost to the supposed greater good? Is the call to stop the bloodshed simply short-sightedness from those who despair at the headlines of yet more bloodshed? I guess that I should be grateful that it isn't my home that is being bombed to smitherines, and my family that isn't mostly wiped out in a single shell attack. Wake up in the morning despairing over another day at work, whereas it could be waking up in the morning grateful to still be waking up in a war-torn country. Those who conquer and prosper eventually reach decadence and collapse, probably from within themselves.
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