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August 04, 2016, 01:05:02 AM
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someone bought 377.9K FAIR from getfaircoin.net last week ? is that right?
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August 04, 2016, 02:49:42 AM
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someone bought 377.9K FAIR from getfaircoin.net last week ? is that right?

I guess you mean when we was distributing part of the faircoins from the crowdfunding

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August 04, 2016, 11:44:50 AM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?


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August 04, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?



Could you develop how the wallet works and which are the risks?

So, the coins could be hacked?

What happens if user forgot password?

etc...

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August 04, 2016, 12:38:51 PM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?



Could you develop how the wallet works and which are the risks?

So, the coins could be hacked?

What happens if user forgot password?

etc...

I'd be happy to explain, you can also check the security page for details https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Security

The users HD seed is encrypted with the wallet-password (not login-password) and only an encrypted copy is stored on our servers, so we don't have access to the private keys.

When creating a wallet you get a mnmonic phrase and a backup key, both can be used to import the wallet, or you can just import a mnmonic if you already have a wallet.
If a users looses the login-password they need to create a new account and import the wallet key (and scan their coins).
If a user forgets the wallet-password then on the backup key there is an encrypted version of your wallet-password using our key you can recover it.

Note: We are working on a usb tool to store your keys offline completely so we don't even need to sign transactions on our servers.

We'll be releasing some of our code as open source https://github.com/CoinVault


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August 04, 2016, 01:04:29 PM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?



How will you make money with this?
will you have fees for withdrawl or something?
will you provide a staking pool or earn from staking the users coins? Wink
thank you

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August 04, 2016, 02:37:06 PM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?



How will you make money with this?
will you have fees for withdrawl or something?
will you provide a staking pool or earn from staking the users coins? Wink
thank you

Hi good questions,

The business model is not firmly decided yet, I have some ideas (most likely a freemium model where a user can make x transactions and over that number will be with a minor cost or a top-up).

Pooled Staking requires owning the private keys which we don't (for security reasons).
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August 05, 2016, 12:06:13 PM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?



How will you make money with this?
will you have fees for withdrawl or something?
will you provide a staking pool or earn from staking the users coins? Wink
thank you

Hi good questions,

The business model is not firmly decided yet, I have some ideas (most likely a freemium model where a user can make x transactions and over that number will be with a minor cost or a top-up).

Pooled Staking requires owning the private keys which we don't (for security reasons).


POS is not important, because we are going to move to POC in less than two months  Wink 

In that sense, perhaps you would prefer to integrate directly faircoin 2 version, so you dont need to do the work two times in two months

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August 05, 2016, 02:16:19 PM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?



How will you make money with this?
will you have fees for withdrawl or something?
will you provide a staking pool or earn from staking the users coins? Wink
thank you

Hi good questions,

The business model is not firmly decided yet, I have some ideas (most likely a freemium model where a user can make x transactions and over that number will be with a minor cost or a top-up).

Pooled Staking requires owning the private keys which we don't (for security reasons).


POS is not important, because we are going to move to POC in less than two months  Wink  

In that sense, perhaps you would prefer to integrate directly faircoin 2 version, so you dont need to do the work two times in two months

Good idea, I'll keep an eye open for the migration.
Can you provide some more detailes about POC?
Cheers
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August 05, 2016, 08:48:16 PM
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Hi Faircoin community,
CoinVault is a multi crypto hybrid web wallet and we are growing our coin stack.
We are considering adding Faircoin to our list of coins.
https://www.coinvault.io/Info/Coins

Is there any interest in the faircoin community to add FAIR to coinvault?



How will you make money with this?
will you have fees for withdrawl or something?
will you provide a staking pool or earn from staking the users coins? Wink
thank you

Hi good questions,

The business model is not firmly decided yet, I have some ideas (most likely a freemium model where a user can make x transactions and over that number will be with a minor cost or a top-up).

Pooled Staking requires owning the private keys which we don't (for security reasons).


POS is not important, because we are going to move to POC in less than two months  Wink  

In that sense, perhaps you would prefer to integrate directly faircoin 2 version, so you dont need to do the work two times in two months

Good idea, I'll keep an eye open for the migration.
Can you provide some more detailes about POC?
Cheers

You can see here: https://fair-coin.org/faircoin2.html   Cheesy

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August 09, 2016, 03:07:39 PM
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Slow price rise on Bittrex. Looks like most dumpers are gone  Cool

Let's hope we can make it to at least 5 K sats over the next few weeks  Smiley

Then we will be a lot closer to getFairCoin price

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August 09, 2016, 05:08:18 PM
 #2992

Slow price rise on Bittrex. Looks like most dumpers are gone  Cool

Let's hope we can make it to at least 5 K sats over the next few weeks  Smiley

Then we will be a lot closer to getFairCoin price

Yeah, also step by step, we are getting closer to the faircoin 2. And right now all what we are developing is for faircoin 2.
So most probably the features that we will have at the day faircoin 2 is deployed, will be quite more than the ones that we have today for faircoin
(Wallet iOS, web wallet, and many more...)

Otherwise we are also preparing new communication tools   Wink
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@enric/im-enric-duran-from-robbing-banks-to-take-over-a-cryptocurrency-my-revolutionary-struggle-now-im-here#comments

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August 10, 2016, 08:47:51 AM
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Slow price rise on Bittrex. Looks like most dumpers are gone  Cool

Let's hope we can make it to at least 5 K sats over the next few weeks  Smiley

Then we will be a lot closer to getFairCoin price

Yeah, also step by step, we are getting closer to the faircoin 2. And right now all what we are developing is for faircoin 2.
So most probably the features that we will have at the day faircoin 2 is deployed, will be quite more than the ones that we have today for faircoin
(Wallet iOS, web wallet, and many more...)

Otherwise we are also preparing new communication tools   Wink
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@enric/im-enric-duran-from-robbing-banks-to-take-over-a-cryptocurrency-my-revolutionary-struggle-now-im-here#comments


WOW, nice features coming up Enric !!! I'm very excited to see what's in store for Faircoin 2  Cool Cool
What's the current ETA ?

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August 10, 2016, 09:32:34 AM
 #2994

Slow price rise on Bittrex. Looks like most dumpers are gone  Cool

Let's hope we can make it to at least 5 K sats over the next few weeks  Smiley

Then we will be a lot closer to getFairCoin price

Yeah, also step by step, we are getting closer to the faircoin 2. And right now all what we are developing is for faircoin 2.
So most probably the features that we will have at the day faircoin 2 is deployed, will be quite more than the ones that we have today for faircoin
(Wallet iOS, web wallet, and many more...)

Otherwise we are also preparing new communication tools   Wink
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@enric/im-enric-duran-from-robbing-banks-to-take-over-a-cryptocurrency-my-revolutionary-struggle-now-im-here#comments


WOW, nice features coming up Enric !!! I'm very excited to see what's in store for Faircoin 2  Cool Cool
What's the current ETA ?

Final of september!!

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August 10, 2016, 02:05:28 PM
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Hello everyone,

For this first post i will do two remarks and ask one question.

Firstly, i would like to thanks all the faircoin's Community fo the work you have have achieve. It's really great  to see people taking seriously what A. Guillen learned from history :"One of the great mistakes of the CNT during the Spanish revolution was to collectivise the land, services and firms below, but leave, above, the banks, credit systems, foreign trade, gold and currency intact in the hands of the enemies of libertarian collectivism. The same error of the Paris Commune of 1871 was committed: the social revolution should not be made below alone, leaving many aspects of the counter-revolution intact above such as the banks, currency, foreign trade and the repressive state which crushed the collectives in time. "

Secondly, about Faircoin2. I think it's a really a big and clever move for the community, and the cryptoworld in general. This will  increase even more confidence into the coin which is of primary importance to anchor expectations.

Finally, I have a technical issue and I hope that the " coders " of Bitcointalk can help me on this. My goal is to develop some statistics about the Faircoin. (I know it may be a bit early for that but I think we have to think up today to develop a  statistical institute of the Common. Otherwise , we risk not being effective enough. Statistics is powerful instrument that has been privatize since a long time, and we need to complement Guillen on this point.)

My idea (perhaps it's not the best one) is to put the blockchain of Faircoin on mysql . To do this, I followed "the how to" of Xavi (https://github.com/FairCoinTeam/faircoin2-cce-4.0/issues) but i am stuck with this error message when i try to load the blockchain with the command 'sudo python dbload.py' on my machine (ubuntu 16.04) :
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Traceback (most recent call last):
File "dbload.py", line 312, in main
ret = process_block(blk_height)
File "dbload.py", line 169, in process_block
prostx = process_tx(key, blk_height)
File "dbload.py", line 124, in process_tx
accounting(key['address'], key['value'], True, 'add')
File "dbload.py", line 81, in accounting
>conn.commit()


 in the "comm.log" file i have the following message:
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ERROR:root:08-08 09:59:12 INSERT INTO signatures (height,version,signerId,signature)
VALUES(%s,%s,%s,%s) : query no return
ERROR:root:08-08 09:59:13 'status' : Orphan loop error
ERROR:root:08-08 10:04:07 DBLoader Timeout : Main loop


do you have any ideas ?

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Thank you already,

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August 13, 2016, 07:04:13 AM
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Finally, I have a technical issue and I hope that the " coders " of Bitcointalk can help me on this. My goal is to develop some statistics about the Faircoin. (I know it may be a bit early for that but I think we have to think up today to develop a  statistical institute of the Common. Otherwise , we risk not being effective enough. Statistics is powerful instrument that has been privatize since a long time, and we need to complement Guillen on this point.)

My idea (perhaps it's not the best one) is to put the blockchain of Faircoin on mysql . To do this, I followed "the how to" of Xavi (https://github.com/FairCoinTeam/faircoin2-cce-4.0/issues) but i am stuck with this error message when i try to load the blockchain with the command 'sudo python dbload.py' on my machine (ubuntu 16.04) :
Quote
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "dbload.py", line 312, in main
ret = process_block(blk_height)
File "dbload.py", line 169, in process_block
prostx = process_tx(key, blk_height)
File "dbload.py", line 124, in process_tx
accounting(key['address'], key['value'], True, 'add')
File "dbload.py", line 81, in accounting
>conn.commit()


 in the "comm.log" file i have the following message:
Quote
ERROR:root:08-08 09:59:12 INSERT INTO signatures (height,version,signerId,signature)
VALUES(%s,%s,%s,%s) : query no return
ERROR:root:08-08 09:59:13 'status' : Orphan loop error
ERROR:root:08-08 10:04:07 DBLoader Timeout : Main loop


do you have any ideas ?

with Rage and Love,

Thank you already,

Chaosmosis


As far i know what you are trying to install is a test version of faircoin 2, and has been already supports on faircoop technical group on telegram. Due that you are there, i guess better to follow... But if any concrete solution is provided, would be nice to copy here.

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August 16, 2016, 11:09:55 PM
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Look at the new launch of Freedom coop!!



Dear All,

We are pleased to announce the launch of Freedom Coop , the cooperative where any human being can be member.

You can now register as a member and contribute inspiring projects so that we can make them all possible through open collaboration. As it is a early beta version. By becoming one of the first participants, you will be able to help to improve Freedom Coop. This will make the process easier for future members.

Freedom Coop is a Faircoop project based around a European Cooperative Society(SCE) which creates toolkits for self-management, self-employment, economic autonomy and financial disobedience for all individuals and groups striving for fairer, more solidary and cooperative social and economic relationships.

As a member of Freedom Coop, you will be able to develop self-employed activities through the SCE legal framework. You as individuals, groups or small cooperatives can minimize your interaction with nation states where employment and administrative issues are concerned. In this way, you can focus on the really important things  your profession and developing your projects.

Freedom Coop offers the following to its members:

    The use of a shared ID number for tax purposes, so you can write invoices and make purchases. The issued invoices are subject to VAT and do not constitute personal income tax because a legal personality  issues the invoices and not an individual.
    Freedom Coop handles accounting and liasion with fiscal authorities.
    An easy, fast and simple procedure for starting and then carrying out your self-employed activity.
    An alternative banking services toolkit for any individual or group regardless of their legal status or financial solvency.
    A broad assortment of resources and tools for Freedom Coop members (such as FairCoop, FairMarket or FairCoin) to connect those who wish to carry out their activities in Europe, regardless of their country of origin and support these activities.
    Access to cheaper products through collective purchasing.
    A coordination and legal support service for all participants, including legal entities. This takes place through the use of legal structures, via the strengthening of a solidary economy and with a monetary flow that does not leak out and allows it to stay within an internal ecosystem.

The first step in joining Freedom Coop is to register on the Open Collaborative Platform (OCP), and follow the instructions there for paying the fee. This membership fee can be paid in FairCoin, and is of 600 for individual projects or 1200 for groups. If you dont need a tax code for invoicing, you can still become a member, pay the fee, and simply use the OCP to manage your projects or participate in the ones that are active and open.

Freedom Coop also intends to make a step forwards in creating an economic and financial alternative, by using FairCoin for the membership fee, for the quarterly fees, and for transactions between members. In this way, we expand the use of this currency and help the entire system to grow. You will also be able to use many other tools that FairCoop puts at your disposal: With FairMarket you can make your products and services available in this alternative economy. With each of these tools, this new system becomes stronger step by step.

With the launch of this early beta we hope that the projects interested in joining will register and walk side by side with us, supporting the development of this tool, and of all its potential.



Fly with us!!

 

The website is already available in English, Spanish, Greek, French, German and Catalan. More languages will come soon.

http://www.freedomcoop.eu/

This is the link for the register form: https://ocp.freedomcoop.eu/membership

Here you can see also this news in other languages:

ES https://fair.coop/es/freedom-coop-una-herramienta-para-la-gente/

CA  https://fair.coop/ca/freedom-coop-una-eina-per-a-la-gent/

GR  https://fair.coop/el/launch-of-freedom-coop/

IT  https://fair.coop/it/freedom-coop-uno-strumento-per-le-persone/

DE  https://fair.coop/de/freedom-coop-ein-werkzeug-fuer-die-menschen/

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August 18, 2016, 06:15:11 AM
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Join the new faircoin group on facebook!
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August 22, 2016, 09:02:49 PM
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Richlist Update maybe the last one before FairCoin 2  Grin


Jun 19th, 16

http://pastebin.com/4yz9FGMG


Jul 21st, 16

http://pastebin.com/GPLv4nb9


Aug 22nd, 16

http://pastebin.com/Pup7S0dy
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August 23, 2016, 03:51:32 PM
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As far i know what you are trying to install is a test version of faircoin 2, and has been already supports on faircoop technical group on telegram. Due that you are there, i guess better to follow... But if any concrete solution is provided, would be nice to copy here.

I Will do as soon as I have news about it.
Thank you for the advice !

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