[ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine

[bitfreak!]

@GingerAle Sorry about my delayed response, been busy killing brain cells over the weekend and haven't had much time to check this thread.

Do you have any projections on how large the blockchain would be when fully maxed? I.e., the 100 billion addresses as proposed in the "account" document?

I believe I have attempted to come up with a rough estimation in the past but I can't remember what the answer was. You should be able to get a rough idea by checking the current size of the trie and how many addresses exist. It wont be small though, at least a few dozen gigabytes in size. But I highly doubt we'll ever actually reach a point where that many addresses exist, and if we did it would be a very long time from now. We could probably come up with a good solution if it ever starts to become a problem anyway.

Also, does the current implementation address fungibility and privacy at all? What may be fascinating is that, inherently, the account system preserves fungibility once the coins have been absorbed into the account ledger. While the transaction is in the minichain, not so much though. If its not addressed, is there a way to address it?

There has been some discussion in this thread about methods for making transactions more anonymous and private. I think one of the most promising techniques is stealth payments because it should be compatible with the mini-blockchain scheme. Edit: there is also this thread which you may find interesting, but it looks like the links to his paper don't work anymore: Anonymity in the Mini-Blockchain scheme

it seems this balance-type "blockchain" would be a good fit with blockless cryptocurrency, as described here with DAGcoin.

I will read into how DAGcoin works and get back to your later with my thoughts, it seems like it could be an interesting concept.

If I understand how cryptonite works (which I probably don't), when a user goes to make a transaction, they are essentially minting coins (from their available balance).

Coins are never really minted in Cryptonite, even coinbase transactions have an input which points to the coinbase account. Coins get subtracted from one account and added to another when a transaction happens. If you add up all the balances of the accounts in the account tree it will always be the same because the coinbase account started off with all the coins.

[bitfreak!]

It just can't be the only friendly node on network is explorer one, why it is working flawlessly and what is wrong with other nodes?

I'm not sure but I'm guessing there are two main reasons: people still running the old protocol or nodes who cannot share slices from the account tree for one reason or another. Many of the exchange nodes probably have slice sharing disabled because it can freeze up while generating slices. But I've never really had much trouble syncing until recently so it could be something else.

The last build for wallet was roughly a year ago and since then Bitcoin code was massively updated, can we have updated code with XCN as well? Not just fixed networking and backup parts but Coin Control and other features as well.

There is an alternative to the Qt wallet which provides more advanced coin control but it's a bit complicated to set up: https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/WebWalletQtAlt I will probably release a packaged version which is easy to install and run but I want to fix a few bugs I found the other day first. The problem is I'm just so busy working on other stuff at the moment I don't have much time to focus on Cryptonite. The biggest mistake I made with Cryptonite was probably not doing a pre-mine to fund future development. I figured a pre-mine wasn't necessary because I already had funding for the initial development of Cryptonite and I was really expecting more developers to come in and help work on Cryptonite as an open source project once we released the code but it doesn't look like that will happen.

[GingerAle]

It just can't be the only friendly node on network is explorer one, why it is working flawlessly and what is wrong with other nodes?

I'm not sure but I'm guessing there are two main reasons: people still running the old protocol or nodes who cannot share slices from the account tree for one reason or another. Many of the exchange nodes probably have slice sharing disabled because it can freeze up while generating slices. But I've never really had much trouble syncing until recently so it could be something else.

The last build for wallet was roughly a year ago and since then Bitcoin code was massively updated, can we have updated code with XCN as well? Not just fixed networking and backup parts but Coin Control and other features as well.

There is an alternative to the Qt wallet which provides more advanced coin control but it's a bit complicated to set up: https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/WebWalletQtAlt I will probably release a packaged version which is easy to install and run but I want to fix a few bugs I found the other day first. The problem is I'm just so busy working on other stuff at the moment I don't have much time to focus on Cryptonite. The biggest mistake I made with Cryptonite was probably not doing a pre-mine to fund future development. I figured a pre-mine wasn't necessary because I already had funding for the initial development of Cryptonite and I was really expecting more developers to come in and help work on Cryptonite as an open source project once we released the code but it doesn't look like that will happen.

I disagree with the premine. What you could do now is buy up the coins on the market and then fund developers that way, but thats a lot of personal investment.

Honestly, IMO, the lack of interest in this coin / account-tech is indicative of the fact that many peeps are just hoping that technology will continue to scale with time... i.e., in 20 years, the bitcoin blockchain will be gynormous and growing, the monero blockchain will be 6Xgynormous and growing, but the cryptonite ledger will still be within some range, and will stay in that range.

now if I could just get it to build. silly bitcoin codebase needing wonky berkelyDB

[bitfreak!]

now if I could just get it to build. silly bitcoin codebase needing wonky berkelyDB

It shouldn't be too hard to build on Ubuntu. this post contains instructions for how to build on Ubuntu.

[GingerAle]

now if I could just get it to build. silly bitcoin codebase needing wonky berkelyDB

It shouldn't be too hard to build on Ubuntu. this post contains instructions for how to build on Ubuntu.

thanks, that dep list is exactly what I needed. sorry, its not hard to build on ubuntu, I just get lazy when it comes to figuring out dependencies.

its building now. This is bitcoin based, right? so now I gotta learn how to use the bitcoin daemon?

[bitfreak!]

This is bitcoin based, right? so now I gotta learn how to use the bitcoin daemon?

Yes it's based on Bitcoin but it should also create a Qt binary in the qt folder if you don't want to use cryptonited. Configure using --with-gui to ensure that it does build Qt.

[SISAR]

bitfreak! please respond to my PM, thanks!

[GingerAle]

This is bitcoin based, right? so now I gotta learn how to use the bitcoin daemon?

Yes it's based on Bitcoin but it should also create a Qt binary in the qt folder if you don't want to use cryptonited. Configure using --with-gui to ensure that it does build Qt.

thanks for the heads up, but all my cryptocurrency boxes are headless, so... nothing but daemons.

[bitfreak!]

@SISAR: I just sent you a reply.

@GingerAle: You can find more info on the Cryptonite API here: http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Cryptonite_API

[aiwe]

I have the same promlem as JasonSW - wallet stuck at 6 day(s) behind. Windows 10. Btw, wallet is called Bitcoin Core (OSS GUI client for Bitcoin)
Hope someday I recover my few coins if they will be worth something.

[bitfreak!]

@aiwe: Qt has never really been stable on Win 8 or 10, not really sure why, I was hoping the new builds would work better but maybe not. Did you try adding just the explorer node to your conf file as I suggested a page or two ago?

[SISAR]

Add some nodes from http://explorer.cryptonite.info/?page=peers then retry syncing.

[appbox]

osx download link is broken

https://mega.co.nz/#!LUwV0SzC!pA6mfGI04PNIIQPQkY0vfosGizXm__ZHHGFbGdCgDKM

[bitfreak!]

Add some nodes from http://explorer.cryptonite.info/?page=peers then retry syncing.

I've added those nodes to my conf, but it's still the same: "Downloading headers, 6 days behind" .
Thanks.

You should just add the explorer node to your conf file and no others. Also delete your peers.dat file to ensure it does sync using the explorer node.

[OrientA]

osx download link is broken

https://mega.co.nz/#!LUwV0SzC!pA6mfGI04PNIIQPQkY0vfosGizXm__ZHHGFbGdCgDKM

The download link is still not working, any progress of reactive it? We need the link for osx systems.

[bitfreak!]

@jthor: There's not much else you can do, I guess just try it a few more times until it works.

@OrientA: The osx builds were created by some guys on the irc channel a while back, I don't have the tools or knowledge to create osx binaries myself. Maybe if someone has a copy of the osx files they could reupload them and post a link in this thread.

[iCEBREAKER]

@jthor: There's not much else you can do, I guess just try it a few more times until it works.

@OrientA: The osx builds were created by some guys on the irc channel a while back, I don't have the tools or knowledge to create osx binaries myself. Maybe if someone has a copy of the osx files they could reupload them and post a link in this thread.

How about a bounty?

A crowd-funding mechanism for crowd-sourced priorities like https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required may be helpful.

[jwinterm]

Almost there, only uh...2147483748% to go

[enerbyte]

@jthor: There's not much else you can do, I guess just try it a few more times until it works.

@OrientA: The osx builds were created by some guys on the irc channel a while back, I don't have the tools or knowledge to create osx binaries myself. Maybe if someone has a copy of the osx files they could reupload them and post a link in this thread.

Is there a link for downloading the current blockchain? Hope someone mind to share that.
Thanks.

here I leave a copy of my blockchain, I hope you help.

https://mega.nz/#!8htg2bYL!H8BUM9d4ojNjovLvVUvh1Ba3j9uqLC1qCKPBGf5GB0k

[jwinterm]

Hi Dev,
I'm on ubuntu and found the same problem, nodes are added from previous page also.



hope this can be solved.
Thanks.

Just tried to sync twice on Windows 10, and both times got stuck at 7 days behind, after adding different nodes and doing a fresh resync each time.