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Do you know if that is like Zennet? They are trying to create a supercomputer out of all of the peers connected to the blockchain. (I think) |
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April 29, 2015, 11:49:10 PM |
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Do you know if that is like Zennet? They are trying to create a supercomputer out of all of the peers connected to the blockchain. (I think) so basically - SETI ( which we helped process and was #1 for a for years in australia ) on a blockchain ... nice ... #crysx |
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Do you know if that is like Zennet? They are trying to create a supercomputer out of all of the peers connected to the blockchain. (I think) Sorry, I should have provided more info. I'm trying to brush away the cobwebs and get a clear view of a path to an implementation. The reference is from the bitcoin wiki entry for Contracts which gives some accessible background: Using some of the techniques from example 6 and some very advanced scripting, it becomes possible to build a multi-party lottery with no operator. The exact protocol used is explained in the paper "Secure multiparty computations on Bitcoin".
and the authors of the paper observe: ... drawback of the MPCs is rarely mentioned in the literature as it seems obvious that in most of the real-life applications cryptography cannot be “responsible” for controlling that the users provide the “real” input to the protocol and that they respect the output.
My current focus is on understanding the different approaches to resolving this discontinuity, i.e. formally describing the components, conditions and sequencing of a transaction using the language of the protocol in a way that allows the transaction to be autonomously executed if specified and verifiable conditions are met/not met. I have a feeling that the critical enabling technology for B3 is “dealer-less threshold cryptography”. It's a bit of a holy grail, so that sounds about right in that if it was easy, we'd already be knee-deep in it. Which we ain't, so it isn't. But it's crucial and we ain't got it, so that means not just “not easy” but “damn tough”. gmaxwell nails it: “Without a dealerless protocol I consider threshold signatures to be of fairly little value. If you have a trusted dealer to initially create the key material then you can simply keep the key in that dealer.” If anyone's singing along at home ... the Contracts wiki page naturally leads on to gmaxwell's Zero Knowledge Contingent Payment which covers yet more of the issues (the SCIPR team have indeed open-sourced the code). So no, I don't consider it specifically related to Zennet's approach. Cheers Graham |
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April 30, 2015, 12:42:24 AM |
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I was going to wait to speak to the devs, but what the hell - you hard core miners might be interested in joining an IRC chat on this one. I have had a short exchange with Sy, a moderator from Litecointalk. He seems a pretty decent chap. He operates a mining monitor which might be quite useful for anyone with lots of solo mining machines.  He is open to discussions about adapting his cgmining monitoring software to run on sgminer / SpreadX11. From what I can tell, its pretty good value, 1 LTC (that might change if he does something for Spreadcoin). Looking up his Litecointalk page, he hosts the software and it pulls information from your miner. You then view the status of your miners online under your account. If your miners have any issues, you get sent an email  https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4011.0The IRC chat is to just discuss the possibility of using the monitoring software, what might be involved from his end and for him to gauge any interest. I suppose if he does anything, he might end up doing it for any x11 coin, which would make more sense for him from a financial perspective. Out of courtesy for his offer to host an IRC session this week, I will contact Sy and suggest an IRC session on Monday (he switches off from work mode at weekends, apparently). 9pm GMT how does that suit anyone that wants to participate? |
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April 30, 2015, 12:54:01 AM |
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I was going to wait to speak to the devs, but what the hell - you hard core miners might be interested in joining an IRC chat on this one. I have had a short exchange with Sy, a moderator from Litecointalk. He seems a pretty decent chap. He operates a mining monitor which might be quite useful for anyone with lots of solo mining machines. He is open to discussions about adapting his cgmining monitoring software to run on sgminer / SpreadX11. From what I can tell, its pretty good value, 1 LTC (that might change if he does something for Spreadcoin). Looking up his Litecointalk page, he hosts the software and it pulls information from your miner. You then view the status of your miners online under your account. If your miners have any issues, you get sent an email https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4011.0The IRC chat is to just discuss the possibility of using the monitoring software, what might be involved from his end and for him to gauge any interest. I suppose if he does anything, he might end up doing it for any x11 coin, which would make more sense for him from a financial perspective. Out of courtesy for his offer to host an IRC session this week, I will contact Sy and suggest an IRC session on Monday (he switches off from work mode at weekends, apparently). 9pm GMT how does that suit anyone that wants to participate? happy to join if time and timezones permit ... would luv to see this work with ccminer ( spreadminer ) also ... #crysx |
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April 30, 2015, 09:01:37 AM |
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April 30, 2015, 09:16:44 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx |
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April 30, 2015, 09:50:17 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia  |
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April 30, 2015, 09:58:11 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ...  ... #crysx |
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April 30, 2015, 10:02:29 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl  |
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April 30, 2015, 10:11:37 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl  ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx |
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April 30, 2015, 10:12:48 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx I can imagine the logistics of building a city in the Australian interior would be quite tricky |
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April 30, 2015, 10:19:01 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx I can imagine the logistics of building a city in the Australian interior would be quite tricky you bet ... but believe me ... if the usa can do it with vegas ... we can too ... we just too damn broke as a country to try ... hehehe ... #crysx |
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April 30, 2015, 10:28:52 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx I can imagine the logistics of building a city in the Australian interior would be quite tricky you bet ... but believe me ... if the usa can do it with vegas ... we can too ... we just too damn broke as a country to try ... hehehe ... #crysx Snakes and spiders >>>>> Thats me out. I prefer my predators to be big enough to shoot from several hundred metres away |
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April 30, 2015, 10:35:19 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx I can imagine the logistics of building a city in the Australian interior would be quite tricky you bet ... but believe me ... if the usa can do it with vegas ... we can too ... we just too damn broke as a country to try ... hehehe ... #crysx Snakes and spiders >>>>> Thats me out. I prefer my predators to be big enough to shoot from several hundred metres away The movies make that out to be worse than it is. I have never seen a snake but when I do go bike riding I hear something like a snake in the bushes next to the path. But that only happenes when it is really dark, when I can hardly see the path in front of me. |
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April 30, 2015, 10:40:18 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx I can imagine the logistics of building a city in the Australian interior would be quite tricky you bet ... but believe me ... if the usa can do it with vegas ... we can too ... we just too damn broke as a country to try ... hehehe ... #crysx Snakes and spiders >>>>> Thats me out. I prefer my predators to be big enough to shoot from several hundred metres away The movies make that out to be worse than it is. I have never seen a snake but when I do go bike riding I hear something like a snake in the bushes next to the path. But that only happenes when it is really dark, when I can hardly see the path in front of me. lots of spiders - not many snakes ... SOOO many imbeciles ... oops - i really need to stop talking about adelaide drivers like this ... awww - what the hell ... the truth never hurt anyone ... much ... #crysx |
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April 30, 2015, 10:48:25 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx I can imagine the logistics of building a city in the Australian interior would be quite tricky you bet ... but believe me ... if the usa can do it with vegas ... we can too ... we just too damn broke as a country to try ... hehehe ... #crysx Snakes and spiders >>>>> Thats me out. I prefer my predators to be big enough to shoot from several hundred metres away The movies make that out to be worse than it is. I have never seen a snake but when I do go bike riding I hear something like a snake in the bushes next to the path. But that only happenes when it is really dark, when I can hardly see the path in front of me. lots of spiders - not many snakes ... SOOO many imbeciles ... oops - i really need to stop talking about adelaide drivers like this ... awww - what the hell ... the truth never hurt anyone ... much ... #crysx This conversation reminds me of when my uncle came over and we told him we see koalas and rabbits all the time. He didn't believe us... Untill a rabbit hopped up our street. Although my uncle was drunk so he probably forgot about it. :| |
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April 30, 2015, 10:50:47 AM |
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preferable if during the mid day for me ... but that also depends on what jobs i have on ... but more than likely 1200 midday adelaide time ... that may throw everyone off - as there doesnt seem to be many australians here ... #crysx There are only about 20m of you in Australia hahaha ... and only a few of us that have any REAL interest in crypto ... ... #crysx The population of the metropolitan area of London is about 10m. I feel incredibly jealous of the space you guys must have. Ok, a lot of it is desert but thats better than urban sprawl hehehe ... believe it or not - the desert is actually no where near the cities and urban sprawl ... most of it is in the heart of australia ... with all the kangaroos and wallabies and wildlife and flora ... its really not like you see in teh movies ... unless you travel deep into australia itself ... the cities are gorgeous ( sydney especially - where im from ) and i will agree that we do have a great deal of space compared to most other cities in the world ... someone should win lotto and pay for everyone to come here and stay for a week ... meeting all you guys and gals would be awesome ... #crysx I can imagine the logistics of building a city in the Australian interior would be quite tricky you bet ... but believe me ... if the usa can do it with vegas ... we can too ... we just too damn broke as a country to try ... hehehe ... #crysx Snakes and spiders >>>>> Thats me out. I prefer my predators to be big enough to shoot from several hundred metres away The movies make that out to be worse than it is. I have never seen a snake but when I do go bike riding I hear something like a snake in the bushes next to the path. But that only happenes when it is really dark, when I can hardly see the path in front of me. lots of spiders - not many snakes ... SOOO many imbeciles ... oops - i really need to stop talking about adelaide drivers like this ... awww - what the hell ... the truth never hurt anyone ... much ... #crysx This conversation reminds me of when my uncle came over and we told him we see koalas and rabbits all the time. He didn't believe us... Untill a rabbit hopped up our street. Although my uncle was drunk so he probably forgot about it. :| so true ... where are you located mate? ... you may have told me once before - but forgetful is what i am ... im really good like that ... #crysx |
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April 30, 2015, 10:52:33 AM |
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Annybody got ann idea if we are going to hear annything in the next day or two?  |
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