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You've given BetVIP a C-. Notice that 2 very important questions were asked of them on their thread on June 10th and June 12th. They have yet to respond. When I tried to login just now, there was a lot of nonsense and a captcha which I don't trust and advise all not to click on it. See the last 3 posts in their thread - I explain further in the latest post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.new#newGogo- I'll see if I can get a hold of someone there and see if they can reply here. |
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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Gogo to BetVIP Good luck on getting a timely response.
Their T&C has a lot of onerous language - it reads as if they will try to hold onto the funds of a big winner by making the person prove they are in a country where it is legal to bet online.
Basically a freeroll.
No problem depositing btc. But if you want to withdraw...
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August 07, 2014, 01:31:20 PM |
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I just sent BetVIP an email and it bounced back This message has been rejected due to content judged to be spam by the internet community They don't have a phone number. |
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August 07, 2014, 01:52:34 PM |
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Hello everyone, We started a new forum thread when we became officially licensed. This is the old thread - hence no further discussion. The previous questions were answered personally. The CAPTCHA is *not* standard procedure. It is occasionally used (as many bitcoin sportsbook providers do, I can assure you) by Cloudflare our DDOS protection service during times of attack. Cloudflare has detected your browser has been compromised, I would suggest you do a scan for the safety of your own coins. The IP block is in place because we are a fully legitimate, legal, licensed book unlike all the others out there. We have a focused long-term view for the business and as such do not want our directors or investors to be prosecuted upon travelling to or from the United States. You are more than welcome to Google BetVIP and read several of the high profile reports in the Wall Street Journal, eGaming Review and Daily Telegraph among others. We have a large player base outside of the Bitcoin talk gambling forum because of this. Bitcoin has become far more widespread than the few hundred users which actively frequent this forum. We have never denied paying a user out in the past for any reason whatsoever and I do not see this changing. If, jeremypwr, you want to risk your coins at one of the illegitimate books out there please don't be surprised if they actually do go under like Bitcoinlivebets. We have only been absolutely transparent from the beginning and there is no need for slander in this community, Kind regards, Daniel Schwartzkopff MD/Founder BetVIP.com Please note our support email is support@BetVIP.COM if you have any further questions. |
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August 07, 2014, 04:20:20 PM |
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The way that I read it is that BetVIP is making sure to cover themselves legally but will pay everyone without the red tape. If anyone is playing there, please post your experiences.
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August 07, 2014, 06:05:16 PM |
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We have *never* requested any information such as address/residence details for deposits or withdrawals and there are zero plans to introduce this at any point in the future,
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Has anyone played with the NR books? It's time for some initial ratings.
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Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
Wait, really, bitbook is back? Same book or someone just stole the name? |
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Has anyone played with the NR books? It's time for some initial ratings.
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Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
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betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
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Wait, really, bitbook is back? Same book or someone just stole the name? my mistake. I just put them in the "F" category. They did give 10 days for players to be paid but there were some players that missed seeing the post and weren't paid. "A" rated booksAnonibet A (2011) "B"rated booksNitrogenSports B+ (2012) Betcoinsports B- (2013) Casinobitcoin B- (2013) "C" rated booksCloudbet C+ (2013) SBObitcoin C+ (2013) * Jetwin C (2013) BetOWI C- (2014) * BetVIP C- (2014) "D" rated books Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) Webetcoins D+ (2014) Gobetgo D+ (2014) Bitbm D+ "F" rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC F Blockbet F Bitbook NRDarkbet Betmoose Fairlay Cointeller xbet.io Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports Predictious tdsports betxcp Bitcoinvegas betabit altbetfair finalstake * longer accepting cash deposits Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players |
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August 08, 2014, 01:54:00 AM |
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Nitrogen seems to have the best lines for preseason NFL
SD/Dallas 3.5 -116/+104
They also have drop down alt lines.
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August 08, 2014, 01:57:55 AM |
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Hi all,
I have been using DirectBet for a while but unfortunately as of late they've not been meeting the standards I'd expect of a book.
Only thing is, they're the only sportsbook I know to take dogecoin bets - I have looked around a few of the others (not all), just wondering if anyone knows any other legit books accepting dogecoin bets?!
Thanks!
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August 08, 2014, 02:06:48 AM |
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Hi all,
I have been using DirectBet for a while but unfortunately as of late they've not been meeting the standards I'd expect of a book.
Only thing is, they're the only sportsbook I know to take dogecoin bets - I have looked around a few of the others (not all), just wondering if anyone knows any other legit books accepting dogecoin bets?!
Thanks!
Webetcoins accepts dogecoin but the site has a lot of down time and is currently under DDoS attack. There have been reports of payouts taking 24 hours or more although no one has been stiffed. I hope the best for this site since the owner seems like a good, honest guy. |
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August 08, 2014, 02:08:35 AM |
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Webetcoins accepts dogecoin but the site has a lot of down time and is currently under DDoS attack. There have been reports of payouts taking 24 hours although no one has been stiffed. I hope the best for this site since the owner seems like a good, honest guy.
Thanks - it certainly is a shame with regards to DirectBet, and I'd like to apologize to you for attacking you in their thread a month or so ago... at the time I felt DirectBet where offering a great service, but as of now with the things that have happened lately there... I'm not so sure. Cheers again |
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August 08, 2014, 02:11:08 AM |
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Webetcoins accepts dogecoin but the site has a lot of down time and is currently under DDoS attack. There have been reports of payouts taking 24 hours although no one has been stiffed. I hope the best for this site since the owner seems like a good, honest guy.
Thanks - it certainly is a shame with regards to DirectBet, and I'd like to apologize to you for attacking you in their thread a month or so ago... at the time I felt DirectBet where offering a great service, but as of now with the things that have happened lately there... I'm not so sure. Cheers again Grumpster- It's no problem at all. I act very unprofessional in his thread. If you have any positive or negative experiences with other books, please post them. |
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August 08, 2014, 05:30:39 AM
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Nitrogen has -105 NFL and that includes totals NFL regular season and pre-season.
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August 08, 2014, 09:50:21 PM |
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Webetcoins has now been down for 2 days.
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August 09, 2014, 01:38:07 PM |
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Hey guys, We've got a review up at BitcoinGamblingSites.com Please check it out  |
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August 09, 2014, 08:42:37 PM
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Sports currently being offered
Anonibet A (2011): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Motorsport, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Futsal, Boxing, MMA, Live Betting, Live Chat, Casino, Up to 10% back on losses.
NitrogenSports B+ (2012) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, MMA, E-Sports, Ciricket, Golf, Rugby, Table Tennis, Exchange, Lowest hold.
Betcoinsports B- (2013): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Boxing, MMA, Handball, Live Betting, Casino, Live Casino, Poker
Casinobitcoin B- (2013): Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, MMA, Boxing, Casino
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) : Agent
Cloudbet C+ (2013) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, Cricket, Handball, Volleyball, Live Betting, Bonus.
Jetwin C (2013) : Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Winter Sports, Darts, Handball, Futsal, Snooker, Volleyball, Aussie Rules, Cycling, Rugby, Golf, Motorsports, Bonus.
BetOWI C- (2014) * : Football, Soccer, Baseball, Soccer, Tennis, Golf, MMA, Boxing, Auto Racing
BetVIP C- (2014) : Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, Aussie Rules, Baseball, Cycling, Darts, Futsal, Golf, Handball, Hockey, Motorsports, Live Betting. US players banned.
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Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
Players and books: Please correct any errors. thanks
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Hey guys, We've got a review up at BitcoinGamblingSites.com Please check it out Review site has no credibility. His #1 book is bitcasino.io A visit there reveals that their full range of offerings include about 2 dozen soccer matches. Period. Nothing else offered. Awesome, and certainly deserving of #1. Any chance some btc changed hands in return for this review? The only other possibility is that the reviewer is the owner of bitcasino.io Not even listed in this thread in the books with no reports. #2 book BetCoinSports - Not even possible to view their site without setting up an account first. I wouldn't consider doing that. Why should I give my email to a site that I may look at once I get inside and decide I'm not interested. This is the only btc sportsbook with such an insane policy. It's like a store that says "You can only enter and see what we're selling AFTER you provide us with some of your personal information." Buh bye. #3 is BetVIP. OK then. |
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Sports currently being offered
Anonibet A (2011): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Motorsport, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Futsal, Boxing, MMA, Live Betting, Live Chat, Casino, Up to 10% back on losses.
NitrogenSports B+ (2012) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, MMA, E-Sports, Ciricket, Golf, Rugby, Table Tennis, Exchange, Lowest hold.
Betcoinsports B- (2013): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Boxing, MMA, Handball, Live Betting, Casino, Live Casino, Poker
Casinobitcoin B- (2013): Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, MMA, Boxing, Casino
Cloudbet C+ (2013) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, Cricket, Handball, Volleyball, Live Betting, Bonus.
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) : Agent
Jetwin C (2013) : Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Winter Sports, Darts, Handball, Futsal, Snooker, Volleyball, Aussie Rules, Cycling, Rugby, Golf, Motorsports, Bonus.
BetOWI C- (2014) * : Football, Soccer, Baseball, Soccer, Tennis, Golf, MMA, Boxing, Auto Racing
BetVIP C- (2014) : Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, Aussie Rules, Baseball, Cycling, Darts, Futsal, Golf, Handball, Hockey, Motorsports, Live Betting. US players banned.
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Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
Players and books: Please correct any errors. thanks
"* longer accepting cash deposits"  ?? |
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August 10, 2014, 02:26:42 PM |
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Sports currently being offered
Anonibet A (2011): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Motorsport, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Futsal, Boxing, MMA, Live Betting, Live Chat, Casino, Up to 10% back on losses.
NitrogenSports B+ (2012) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, MMA, E-Sports, Ciricket, Golf, Rugby, Table Tennis, Exchange, Lowest hold.
Betcoinsports B- (2013): Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Volleyball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Boxing, MMA, Handball, Live Betting, Casino, Live Casino, Poker
Casinobitcoin B- (2013): Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, MMA, Boxing, Casino
Cloudbet C+ (2013) : Football, Soccer , Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Baseball, Rugby, Aussie Rules, Snooker, Boxing, Cricket, Handball, Volleyball, Live Betting, Bonus.
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) : Agent
Jetwin C (2013) : Football, Soccer, Basketball, Hockey, Tennis, Winter Sports, Darts, Handball, Futsal, Snooker, Volleyball, Aussie Rules, Cycling, Rugby, Golf, Motorsports, Bonus.
BetOWI C- (2014) * : Football, Soccer, Baseball, Soccer, Tennis, Golf, MMA, Boxing, Auto Racing
BetVIP C- (2014) : Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, Aussie Rules, Baseball, Cycling, Darts, Futsal, Golf, Handball, Hockey, Motorsports, Live Betting. US players banned.
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Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D+
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
Bitcoinvegas
betabit
altbetfair
finalstake
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
Players and books: Please correct any errors. thanks
"* longer accepting cash deposits" ?? BetOWI opened in 2011 but didn't accept bitcoins until 2014. |
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