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April 17, 2015, 07:34:23 AM
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BetVIP is a D- book.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11112702

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EDIT - I posted the wrong link above but corrected it about 3 minutes after initially making this post.
i.e., the link above is now correct.

you are just misleading other members that issue has been resolved and betvip has wonderful support and user firendly staff,
i am disagrred with you rating for betvip because of my personal experinece with them,

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Thanks for the support! It is users like you that make my day  Wink

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April 17, 2015, 07:41:06 AM
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BetVIP is a D- book.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11112702

Posts #285-288


EDIT - I posted the wrong link above but corrected it about 3 minutes after initially making this post.
i.e., the link above is now correct.

you are just misleading other members that issue has been resolved and betvip has wonderful support and user firendly staff,
i am disagrred with you rating for betvip because of my personal experinece with them,

Hi trafficolaa

Thanks for the support! It is users like you that make my day  Wink

Regards
Jessica
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welcome Jessica i am here to telling the fact because betvip derserves that, i am using your service for betting from a long time without any major issue, i peronally like your efforts and hardwork about betvip.
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April 17, 2015, 09:50:20 AM
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BetVIP is a D- book.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516644.msg11112702

Posts #285-288


EDIT - I posted the wrong link above but corrected it about 3 minutes after initially making this post.
i.e., the link above is now correct.

you are just misleading other members that issue has been resolved and betvip has wonderful support and user firendly staff,
i am disagrred with your rating for betvip because of my personal experinece with them,


"you are just misleading other members that issue has been resolved"

I don't know which specific issue you're referring to as I posted quite a few issues, but it doesn't matter.

All of those posts are within the last month.

All of those posts reflect my own experience from first joining the site to tonight.

I believe the issues discussed - lack of response from cs, software issues, etc. - in the posts I pasted from many different customers of BetVIP are typical of what customers find there, based on my experience as well.

You say it's been a good experience - many others find it is not a good experience.
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April 17, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

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April 17, 2015, 01:01:59 PM
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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread
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April 17, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

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April 17, 2015, 02:35:27 PM
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BetBTC - Your interface looks great. The negative is that you need more liquidity. Other exchanges offer more markets. Another thing is that there isn't much feedback at bitcointalk concerning BetBTC.

We just hit 10k bets and our website is much more active since we implemented the API.

You should take a look soon Roll Eyes

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April 17, 2015, 02:39:39 PM
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BetBTC - Your interface looks great. The negative is that you need more liquidity. Other exchanges offer more markets. Another thing is that there isn't much feedback at bitcointalk concerning BetBTC.

We just hit 10k bets and our website is much more active since we implemented the API.

You should take a look soon Roll Eyes

Will do and keep us updated on anything new. Longevity still keeps BetBTC out of the C's. It's best to take a cautious approach with ratings.

edit- The same goes for all books. Feel free to post on anything new.

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April 17, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C+(2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)
BTCBook D (2014)

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014).............accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

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altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betkurus.com
bitsportsbook.org
Coin178.com
Flutterclub.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

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April 17, 2015, 02:55:14 PM
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Reminder- Books must keep their discussion to their own book. There is no criticizing of another book. This is done to keep away from a book vs. book war. Players can talk about anything.

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April 17, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?
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April 17, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
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Thanks for the love!

Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.




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April 17, 2015, 07:47:25 PM
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April 17, 2015, 07:59:03 PM
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Thanks jeremypwr, it will be added. Betcoin is another book that I like a lot.

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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating
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April 18, 2015, 12:59:17 AM
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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating


Posters open my eyes to a lot of things through their experiences and posts. One of the best things about this thread is when players post their experiences. The more that is out there, the easier it is for everyone to make their own decision. These ratings should not be the sole determinant when choosing a book.

Posters can ask books questions here. If a book doesn't answer, a link will be sent by PM to make sure they are aware of questions or accusations. The idea is to get as much information on all books in one thread. Very few, if any, can read the dedicated thread of each book.


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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating


Posters open my eyes to a lot of things through their experiences and posts. One of the best things about this thread is when players post their experiences. The more that is out there, the easier it is for everyone to make their own decision. These ratings should not be the sole determinant when choosing a book.

Posters can ask books questions here. If a book doesn't answer, a link will be sent by PM to make sure they are aware of questions or accusations. The idea is to get as much information on all books in one thread. Very few, if any, can read the dedicated thread of each book.


I see, are you doing this alone? Because basically I do see some problem in nitrogensports thread or their chat that they are slow in processing a huge withdrawal. If you are doing this alone, you cant possibly keep track of all the negativity in the sportsbook isnt it?
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Currently BetVIP is "C+" All ratings are going to be looked at again May 1. My personal experience has been fine with BetVIP. It's good to see other opinions.

Is your rating based on your own experience or do you include some people point of view as well? I do think the spot for Nitrogensports and casinobitcoin is not in the right spot as nitrogen has been having some complain because they are slow in processing the withdrawal and I never see any issue with casinobitco sportsbook, none complain about their sportsbook from since last month in their thread

Everyone's opinion is taken in to consideration. We need your opinion and that of others posted so that players can make their own decisions on top books and not just solely look at a grade.

How much do you weight other people opinion than your own? if this is taken into consideration , wouldnt that some sites could hire some shill to actually make some story about the site not responding to the support mail or witholding withdrawal just to make the other sites looks bad?

It's tough to quantify the weight of my opinion compared to that of others. One reason is the example that you pointed out. Another example is when Bitcoinlivebets was the number #2 book in a different rating's thread here at Bitcointalk. The ratings are based on poster votes over there.

In this thread Bitcoinlivebets was rated "D-" and predicted to go under. Bitcoinlivebets did go under and people are owed money. They may have had a lot of shill votes to get a high rating in the other rating's thread.



Fair point, but you do have to put in more weight for your own opinion compared to the other because if you put in the same weight between yours and the other opinion, it will be the same as you allowing shills to sort in the sportsbook rating


Posters open my eyes to a lot of things through their experiences and posts. One of the best things about this thread is when players post their experiences. The more that is out there, the easier it is for everyone to make their own decision. These ratings should not be the sole determinant when choosing a book.

Posters can ask books questions here. If a book doesn't answer, a link will be sent by PM to make sure they are aware of questions or accusations. The idea is to get as much information on all books in one thread. Very few, if any, can read the dedicated thread of each book.


I see, are you doing this alone? Because basically I do see some problem in nitrogensports thread or their chat that they are slow in processing a huge withdrawal. If you are doing this alone, you cant possibly keep track of all the negativity in the sportsbook isnt it?


I run all my opinions behind the scenes with others at peepsplace to see what they think after they take a test drive. The people that I run it by have extensive gambling backgrounds. Some have dealt with cash book complaints in the past. I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.

Nitrogen is a huge operation for a bitcoin book. They are located in Costa Rica with a marketing department in Canada. Because their player base is so big, they are going to have complaints. If complaints were tracked by percentage of players at Nitrogen, it's very low compared to other books. Small books shouldn't have as many complaints because their player base is much smaller.

It's safe to say that Nitrogen knows what they are doing and take all complaints seriously. If anyone has a problem, submit a support ticket and they will take care of it. They are also very open and transparent with me. I'm on Skype with 3 different people at Nitrogen. If someone wants me to look into something, just give me your permission to see your account details and Nitrogen will tell me exactly what happened.











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