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February 05, 2015, 06:16:11 AM
Last edit: February 05, 2015, 06:29:34 AM by Peeps Place
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I have urged NitrogenSports to make a change to their betting user interface.

When clicking on a bet and entering a bet amount, it automatically is listed as a "Straight" bet.

If I now do not click on "PLACE WAGER" but instead enter a 2nd bet which I intend to make as a 2nd Straight bet, the software automatically shifts to "Parlay" and the 2 bets become a parlay.

I've pointed out to Nitrogen that I have never encountered this at any other book, btc/fiat/brick and mortar.

The "Parlay" option is one that the bettor should have to "opt in", i.e., choose to select.

The default should always be "Straight" bet, unless the bettor selects "Parlay".

I would also like to see "use the same amount for all bets".


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February 05, 2015, 08:50:30 PM
Last edit: February 05, 2015, 09:07:24 PM by Peeps Place
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Books or players - Coinbase has shut done some accounts for suspected gambling. Is anyone using Trucoin or Circle or have other recommendations to attach a bank account? I'm getting asked this at other forums and I don't want to recommend a bad exchange or wallet.

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February 06, 2015, 09:18:35 AM
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My anonibet account is locked since Wednesday, they ignored support messages, email and posts on their forum thread.
Just post on their thread, or start an accusation thread if they don't reply by then.
If you didn't have any balance, just create a new account instead.

Sometimes problems are good to post here. We can all see it and I can try to help players with problems.
I still didn't get a reply from them. I've sent a message through their support system, email, forum thread and forum pm.
Realized they have livechat so finally got in contact with them, we'll see how they handle the situation now



zika2234 - Can you summarize your situation?

Why would they lock your account?

Why were they ignoring all your attempts at reaching them?
Tried logging in one day and couldn't. Found a password reset email (unread) which I didn't request. That's about it. Last night I realized they have livechat so I contacted them that way. I was told they have no record of an account with my email, and that they'll contact me with further info. I have no idea why they wouldn't respond (other than livechat).
It's now been 9 days since I've been unable to access my account with almost 20btc in it. When I ask if there's any info, livechat just repeats the usual "we'll contact you when we have info". A rated book.
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February 06, 2015, 01:00:28 PM
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My anonibet account is locked since Wednesday, they ignored support messages, email and posts on their forum thread.
Just post on their thread, or start an accusation thread if they don't reply by then.
If you didn't have any balance, just create a new account instead.

Sometimes problems are good to post here. We can all see it and I can try to help players with problems.
I still didn't get a reply from them. I've sent a message through their support system, email, forum thread and forum pm.
Realized they have livechat so finally got in contact with them, we'll see how they handle the situation now



zika2234 - Can you summarize your situation?

Why would they lock your account?

Why were they ignoring all your attempts at reaching them?
Tried logging in one day and couldn't. Found a password reset email (unread) which I didn't request. That's about it. Last night I realized they have livechat so I contacted them that way. I was told they have no record of an account with my email, and that they'll contact me with further info. I have no idea why they wouldn't respond (other than livechat).
It's now been 9 days since I've been unable to access my account with almost 20btc in it. When I ask if there's any info, livechat just repeats the usual "we'll contact you when we have info". A rated book.
Hi zika, I'm a little lost here. Why did Anonibet say that your email address is no good? When they emailed you the password reset, that email address should be the same as your Anonibet account.

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February 06, 2015, 02:23:54 PM
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I personally like Directbet as the payouts r really fast..Nitrogen and Cloudbet r slow comparatively when it comes to payouts as soon at the game gets over.

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February 06, 2015, 08:00:23 PM
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My anonibet account is locked since Wednesday, they ignored support messages, email and posts on their forum thread.
Just post on their thread, or start an accusation thread if they don't reply by then.
If you didn't have any balance, just create a new account instead.

Sometimes problems are good to post here. We can all see it and I can try to help players with problems.
I still didn't get a reply from them. I've sent a message through their support system, email, forum thread and forum pm.
Realized they have livechat so finally got in contact with them, we'll see how they handle the situation now



zika2234 - Can you summarize your situation?

Why would they lock your account?

Why were they ignoring all your attempts at reaching them?
Tried logging in one day and couldn't. Found a password reset email (unread) which I didn't request. That's about it. Last night I realized they have livechat so I contacted them that way. I was told they have no record of an account with my email, and that they'll contact me with further info. I have no idea why they wouldn't respond (other than livechat).
It's now been 9 days since I've been unable to access my account with almost 20btc in it. When I ask if there's any info, livechat just repeats the usual "we'll contact you when we have info". A rated book.
Hi zika, I'm a little lost here. Why did Anonibet say that your email address is no good? When they emailed you the password reset, that email address should be the same as your Anonibet account.
one livechat operator mentioned they don't have an account with my email in their database. another said that my account is currently disabled (when i quoted my account id). otherwise they have no info to give me, they say they are waiting for their IT dept
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February 06, 2015, 08:08:28 PM
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BetVIP has been down for 2 days.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646810.new;topicseen#new
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February 06, 2015, 08:34:33 PM
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DDoS. I wonder what they are asking for ransom.

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February 06, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
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DDoS. I wonder what they are asking for ransom.

See post #200 in that thread:

"Now 24 hours offline.
You say you are under DDOS attack in this thread but I have had an email from you this morning that doesn't mention it.
I reproduce it below:..."

The same sequence of events with them occurred in the past. Earlier in that thread the posts are there with the same events:

1) BetVIP down

2) No response from BetVIP in the thread or elsewhere

3) BetVIP eventually responds, says its due to scheduled upgrades (which they'd never warned people of).

4) BetVIP continues to be offline and it eventually morphs into "It's not upgrades, it's a DDOS attack", exactly the same as what just occurred in that thread.


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February 08, 2015, 03:33:29 AM
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BetVIP still offline.
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February 11, 2015, 05:21:17 AM
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BetVIP still offline.
Will do upgrades and downgrades in a couple of weeks. Hopefully Betvip can fix all problems soon.

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February 12, 2015, 07:33:40 PM
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Can we get some more books to offer Nascar?

Peeps - Can you lobby your books about this?


Ridiculous that almost no one offers it.
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February 12, 2015, 08:40:15 PM
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Can we get some more books to offer Nascar?

Peeps - Can you lobby your books about this?


Ridiculous that almost no one offers it.

How about Boxing as well?  Very few books actually offer it...

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February 12, 2015, 09:16:41 PM
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I'll ask and see what they say.

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February 13, 2015, 03:30:55 PM
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jetwin limited my account , i can bet only max 8-25 EUR ,   earlier this limit was 600-1200 EUR (they reduced it to 1% like bet365) 

yes, a "bitcoin bookmaker" called jetwin will put 0.04 BTC - 0.12 BTC limit on your account  within 2 weeks (less than 20 bets)
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February 13, 2015, 05:21:14 PM
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jetwin limited my account , i can bet only max 8-25 EUR ,   earlier this limit was 600-1200 EUR (they reduced it to 1% like bet365) 

yes, a "bitcoin bookmaker" called jetwin will put 0.04 BTC - 0.12 BTC limit on your account  within 2 weeks (less than 20 bets)


All services offered by JETWIN are intended for recreation customers only. Betting “Steam Plays” or “Moves”, engaging in arbitrage or hedge betting, shall all be considered irregular gaming. Any player deemed to be betting “steam” or “sharp” sides will have wager limits lowered or cancelled.

Just as a restaurant can refuse service to whomever, an online sportsbook is not obligated to take your action, it is only obligated to pay the bets it has accepted. It is that simple.



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February 13, 2015, 05:24:46 PM
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jetwin limited my account , i can bet only max 8-25 EUR ,   earlier this limit was 600-1200 EUR (they reduced it to 1% like bet365)  

yes, a "bitcoin bookmaker" called jetwin will put 0.04 BTC - 0.12 BTC limit on your account  within 2 weeks (less than 20 bets)


If you want true unlimited limits & profits, it can only achieved on a sports betting exchange. A bookmaker will always cut yourself off when you start profiting too much..

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February 13, 2015, 06:22:28 PM
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jetwin limited my account , i can bet only max 8-25 EUR ,   earlier this limit was 600-1200 EUR (they reduced it to 1% like bet365)  

yes, a "bitcoin bookmaker" called jetwin will put 0.04 BTC - 0.12 BTC limit on your account  within 2 weeks (less than 20 bets)


All services offered by JETWIN are intended for recreation customers only. Betting “Steam Plays” or “Moves”, engaging in arbitrage or hedge betting, shall all be considered irregular gaming. Any player deemed to be betting “steam” or “sharp” sides will have wager limits lowered or cancelled.

Just as a restaurant can refuse service to whomever, an online sportsbook is not obligated to take your action, it is only obligated to pay the bets it has accepted. It is that simple.



"recreation customers only "
"irregular gaming"
"wager limits lowered or cancelled"

you should advertise your service with these sentences


so you claim that if a sharp player put a bet on a sharp market you will probably cancel the bet  (after you accepted it ) because you suppose that this customer is not a recreation customer , is that true ?
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February 13, 2015, 06:26:04 PM
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jetwin limited my account , i can bet only max 8-25 EUR ,   earlier this limit was 600-1200 EUR (they reduced it to 1% like bet365)  

yes, a "bitcoin bookmaker" called jetwin will put 0.04 BTC - 0.12 BTC limit on your account  within 2 weeks (less than 20 bets)


If you want true unlimited limits & profits, it can only achieved on a sports betting exchange. A bookmaker will always cut yourself off when you start profiting too much..

what about pinnacle sports ?

i know everything  about bookmakers behavior and i am curios how will protect bitcoin bookmakers themselves from sharp bettors.

think about it :   create wallet , send bitcoins to this wallet from an exchange , register new account (use anonymous proxy if necesserly)  at the bookmaker , repeat it after the bookie limited your account 

i am waiting for such a reason that bookmaker will claim that i have more than 1 account because the 2 accounts have the same betting pattern (of course you use only 1 account at the same time )   
bookmaker cant prove it that these 2 accounts connected , they can only make assumptions (comparing betting pattern ) but this means nothing that is enough for nothing

yeah , "you have 2 accounts because they have the same betting pattern"  lol
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