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September 24, 2014, 07:01:42 AM
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It's pretty silly that you're still denying that Russia had anything to do with the fight in Eastern Ukraine, or that it annexed Crimea, despite overwhelming evidence.
no evidences. do not fool yourself  Wink

You should repeat that a few more times. Lenin says if you do that, it will become true.
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September 24, 2014, 09:49:48 AM
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It's pretty silly that you're still denying that Russia had anything to do with the fight in Eastern Ukraine, or that it annexed Crimea, despite overwhelming evidence.
You mean "overwhelming evidence" like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KGCYVobkLE



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September 24, 2014, 08:01:07 PM
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China is on the friends-list:
http://rt.com/politics/189944-sanctions-china-russia-ukraine/

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China will never support any sanctions against Russia and will never join them, Valentina Matviyenko, speaker of the Russian parliament’s upper house said, citing Chinese President Xi Jinping, with whom she met on Tuesday.

Both Russia and China believe the sanctions are illegal, ineffective and counterproductive, according to Matviyenko. They are nothing but an attempt “to exert pressure on sovereign states to change their position and to weaken them and suppress their development,” she stressed.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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September 24, 2014, 08:58:10 PM
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It's pretty silly that you're still denying that Russia had anything to do with the fight in Eastern Ukraine, or that it annexed Crimea, despite overwhelming evidence.
You mean "overwhelming evidence" like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KGCYVobkLE


Nah, more like this

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Sorry to disappoint, but there is no evidence in your copy&paste. Once a liar always a liar. If you checked my link then you know what I mean... Cheesy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6fvluajeEw

Miloš Zeman gives a speech about senselessness of sanctions at Rhodos Forum 2014.
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While reading some of the older jokes in Russian, I came across this prophetic one from the end of June:

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After the sanctions by the Visa system, Russian government finally realised that it would not hurt having a national payment system.

Now all Russians are eagerly awaiting when the Western countries will impose on us sanctions in the food area, so that our government would realise that its time to revive agriculture.

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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Just to put things into perspective... while the Anglo-Zionist propaganda press focused on the alleged suffering of Russia from their sanctions (nearly ten months after it was introduced, but Russia was still growing in the last quarter while Germany already shrunk), here's the funny part: while they glowingly recount that Russia MIGHT go into recession, the slaves used to sanction Russia have already plummeted into triple-dip recession...

Europe's Triple-Dip Recession Arrives: German Industrial Production Crashes Most Since February 2009

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/europes-triple-dip-recession-arrives-german-industrial-production-crashes-most-febru

So, they are using propaganda to taunt Russia that it will be reached by the floods because of their sanctions while they were already washed away by the floods...

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Re-posted the above here as it's more relevant to this thread.

A reader comment:

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From boots on the ground I can tell you orders for new construction equipment in Germany are off by +50% this year. One crane manufacturer told me they only sold 800 units in Europe this year when they normally sell over 2,000 and lost orders for "hundreds of machines" to Russia due to sanctions.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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http://qha.com.ua/western-diplomats-may-be-banned-from-entering-crimea-aksyonov-132389en.html
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"Rotenberg Law" proposal is under review in the parliament... Basically it allows confiscation of property in response to the sanctions.

http://politicalhotwire.com/current-events/111730-rotenbergs-law.html
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"Rotenberg Law" proposal is under review in the parliament... Basically it allows confiscation of property in response to the sanctions.

http://politicalhotwire.com/current-events/111730-rotenbergs-law.html

Yes, in clear ... all the friends of Poutine will get some cash $$ paid by Huh All poor russian citizen ...

Let's recall ...
Poutine / Medvedev always told => money is not problem, we are a great country ... we do not care about all others country !

We will take crimea at any price ... yes at any price ... paid by ? Haha all russians citizen ! Russia’s finance minister announced that part of the State Pension Fund would be invested in infrastructure projects in Crimea—including a $4.3 billion bridge over the Kerch Strait to link the peninsula to Russia proper—and the Duma voted to allow the National Welfare Fund to cover losses at the state-owned VEB bank sustained as a result of the Sochi Olympics.

Then came new decree to tap the National Wealth Fund by giving roughly $9 billion each to two state institutions, the Russian Direct Investment Fund and the state nuclear corporation Rosatom, to spend on projects ranging from roads to railways and nuclear power stations, both inside and outside Russia.

... Is this finished ? Of course not ...

Poutine will continue to give citizen money to all his best friends :-)

The Russian parliament moved a step closer on Wednesday to adopting a law that would allow for foreign assets inside the country to be seized and for the state to pay compensation for the loss of property due to Western sanctions.

=> Ok they can do it ... all what they will get is finally ... all non russian will remove the money from russia ... does russia think they can live by selling potatoes ?

Russia's parliament gave preliminary approval Wednesday to a bill that would grant compensation to individuals hit by Western sanctions, a move that the usually compliant opposition criticized as a Kremlin attempt to buy the loyalty of the elite.

.... in clear in russia better to be a friend of Poutine LoL
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"Rotenberg Law" proposal is under review in the parliament... Basically it allows confiscation of property in response to the sanctions.

http://politicalhotwire.com/current-events/111730-rotenbergs-law.html

Yes, in clear ... all the friends of Poutine will get some cash $$ paid by Huh All poor russian citizen ...
Nope, paid by property of foreign investors  Wink
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http://rt.com/business/195556-russia-china-currency-swap/
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regulations and sanctions will only burden the farmers there, the people who livelihoods as farmers will be difficult to develop as a result of the sanctions, once again this is an example of that, the war would only sacrifice the little people and innocent children , may conflict and end this war quickly ... Hopefully ...  Tongue

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October 15, 2014, 09:50:28 AM
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http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000319924&play=1

PM Dmitry Medvedev claims that President Barack Obama suffers from the "mental aberration". He also said that sanctions is "unconstructive and stupid position which has no purpose except trying to show how cool we are and how we can punish somebody"
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November 21, 2014, 10:13:49 PM
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http://stanislavs.org/the-french-mistral-slapstick-comedy-sovereignty-lost/

The French “Mistral” Slapstick Comedy – Sovereignty Lost

France has become a sad sight. The once proud and independent state that dared defy Great Britain and send navy help to the colony of GB that unconstitutionally self-proclaimed independence to later become the United States (by the way, this right the USA now denies other regions seeking democratic self-determination), has now turned into a helpless pushover, suffering from the very state that they helped create.

First France will probably never see its gold again, that was sent for “safe-keeping” to the US.

Second France was robbed for billions of dollars on some trumped up charges against its leading bank BNP.

And now, the saga of Mistrals.

Russia does not really need these helicopter carriers. They are best suited for invading small coastal states, missions largely performed by the USA. This does not fit Russian military doctrine. Mistrals were ordered when Serdjukov was the Minister of Defence. His level of corruption reached quite high levels, and this project is just one of many that did not have Russian defence interests at heart, but Serdjukov’s own pocket.

France has been under huge pressure by NATO/US and EU (through the US trojan horse – Poland) to not deliver on its contracts. NATO/US went as far as saying that they will buy Mistrals instead, but it’s not that easy – Mistrals are built to Russian military specifications and standards and will not work with NATO. Moreover, they are stuffed with Russian high-tech communications and equipment from the very early stages of construction. Should France not deliver the ships, they’d still be required to return the equipment, and that would basically mean cutting up the ships, after which they’ll be little more than scrap metal.

So France has become the butt of the jokes and the laughing stock of the world for its handling of the situation. First they’ll deliver, then they won’t, then they’ll wait a little, then they won’t again, then they’ll deliver, but later, and so on. Each time France was close to delivery, like in a classical Punch and Judy show, Poland (as Mr. Punch) would pull a big stick and slap France for thinking it’s a sovereign state. I agree with Mr. Lavrov’s assessment that France does not behave as a sovereign state would. It has become a lapdog, a vassal.

And so, the comedy is close to it’s end – Russia prepares to sue France and to get its money and equipment back. Russia actually wins from such course of action.

NATO/EU/US continue to push France and its shipbuilding into the abyss, for who will trust France to build something for them after this? EU has already killed shipbuilding in Greece and, before that, in Poland, which during the Soviet times was the leading shipbuilder in Easter Europe, even taking orders from Great Britain. Now Polish docks stay silent. Maybe it’s a Polish form of revenge?

So far France seems to be slated to become a loser.

PS: Joseph Baiden, during his visit to Kiev (to observe the results of his handiwork and to appoint the proxy Ukrainian "government") said that France is on the right track in handling this case. Applying the axiom that whenever the USA praises you, you are doing something wrong for your country and something right for the USA, then France should definitely start panicking.

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The French “Mistral” Slapstick Comedy – Sovereignty Lost
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