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Author Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000  (Read 2170603 times)
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August 27, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
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so what is most everybody doing now?  Pool mining or Solo?  Ive heard mixed opinions some say if you dont have at least 4tb+ then its best to pool mine and others say 2tb+.  What does the community say?

Now probably 4TB and up for solo, anything below should be pool mined. Just waiting for the dev to make pool v2 to use the solo plots for pool mining.

Im at 8 TB. Nothing in 24 hours.

I would say 10 TB or more

Just hit a block. 8TB took 22 hours
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August 27, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
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I'm trying to be less of an a$$hole, but damn, the people here piss me off so much, what with Linux-only crap and releasing half-assed miners that you have to be a damn coding engineer to finish and get mining for you.

Want to code somwething useful?  Code a program that will use GPUs to do the plotting.  I have a couple 280X's sitting around doing nothing.

I have 4 laptop drives spanned into a 605 GB volume, with a 1 to 2457300 plot size.  The AMD FX-4130 3.8 GHZ cpu took 2-1/2 days to plot that, it just finished this morning. Now it's mining for me solo.

I will join a pool once V2 comes out, I am trying to find cheap deals on hard drives right now.  I know a place that sells hard drives, I was trying to talk them into taking a 1 ounce gold bar I have in exchange for drives, but they stubbornly want cash or credit card only. 

Im glad your trying harder. It will get you a ton more help from the community.

I am 99% sure someone is working on windows implemenattions. You just have to be patient.

One thing you should realize is that the harder it is to setup the harder it is for the masses to mine and the better it is for you if you get it right. You will get far more coins that way.

We are here to help you. So if you ask nicely I am sure we can get things sorted out.

BTW your GPU's may never help write plots. Disk speeds are limited and just because a GPU can write the data really fast doesn't mean the disks can keep up.

Maybe with SSDs but 20 TB of SSD would cost WAY to much.
i dont know how most people are storing their plots but my linux based storage can take about 100 mb/s from a plotting node over network from up to 8 nodes simultanously.
if someone runs a single large 4 tb usb3 disk it should be filled similar fast within 12 hours if plot content is supplied in time.

the main question for me is why everyone expects a mining preperation process to be fast and simple initiated by a clicking solution?
burst is not a clonecoin which disappears a few weeks after it has been released.
i understand that many people are focused on windows and have read a linux version is twice as fast.
even if you generate the plots faster you have the same mining result after the plots have been created.
the mining itself has the same speed. we speak only about a few days time difference that it takes to fillup a large storage device if you dont have linux skills.
look at it like you have a open preorder for a asic miner which already partially mines for you  Tongue

the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.

if a c based miner has options to configure threads with options for serial and parallel io on the filesystem you may use windows based systems to run multi terrabyte usb3 based mining farms if you want to and have the skills for it.
i still do this on linux without having any os related issues.

the question is why you would invest resources into the development of a technology which already exists and is free.
windows comes only in place when you speak about the masses who have one or two tb free harddrive space and want to do something with it. these people need a one-click solution with visual guis and graphical feedback that their miner does something.

whoever wants to invest money to gain money out of it has at the moment only one option.
to learn how to do it or pay someone to do it.
okay, also one may simply buy mined coins. they are still affordable (if someone reads this a few month: today you could buy almost 250k for less than 300 satoshi each!).

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August 27, 2014, 06:53:51 PM
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7tb-hits 2 block today Grin
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August 27, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
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I have a windows system, to run the linux tools from dcct (thx again and again) i use a vm with linux ... just finished setup and started generating plots.
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plot <address> 100000000 2400000 24000 5
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Creating plots for nonces 100000000 to 102400000 (585 GB) using 6000 MB memory and 5 threads
1 Percent done. 3106 nonces/minute
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is this a acceptable speed, or do i loose too much by using vm?! threads running on i7@~3.9Ghz ...
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August 27, 2014, 07:00:41 PM
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the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.


Thats not true... NTFS can go to 16tb on 4k cluster size, with 64k cluster, you get 256tb

I think you may be referring to the 2tb MBR partition limit. Use GPT partition (vista and higher), the limit is 16 exabytes.
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August 27, 2014, 07:05:52 PM
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the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.


Thats not true... NTFS can go to 16tb on 4k cluster size, with 64k cluster, you get 256tb

I think you may be referring to the 2tb MBR partition limit. Use GPT partition (vista and higher), the limit is 16 exabytes.

GPT volume is way better in scaling compared to MBR. NTFS file system is ok, but EXT3/EXT4 is more efficient.

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August 27, 2014, 07:06:43 PM
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I have a windows system, to run the linux tools from dcct (thx again and again) i use a vm with linux ... just finished setup and started generating plots.
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plot <address> 100000000 2400000 24000 5
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Creating plots for nonces 100000000 to 102400000 (585 GB) using 6000 MB memory and 5 threads
1 Percent done. 3106 nonces/minute
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is this a acceptable speed, or do i loose too much by using vm?! threads running on i7@~3.9Ghz ...
normally you only loose up to 5% cpu but the storage may be slowed down if you plot onto a virtual disk.
if you mine onto a usb disk format it on windows with ntfs and mount it within you vm and plot onto it.
after the plotting is done you can unmount it and attach it directly to the windows host.

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August 27, 2014, 07:10:21 PM
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the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.


Thats not true... NTFS can go to 16tb on 4k cluster size, with 64k cluster, you get 256tb

I think you may be referring to the 2tb MBR partition limit. Use GPT partition (vista and higher), the limit is 16 exabytes.

GPT volume is way better in scaling compared to MBR. NTFS file system is ok, but EXT3/EXT4 is more efficient.
i still tried to setup a larger raid0 volume over 4 spans before burst and ran into trouble on windows7.
just made the volume 2tb and it worked but i am no windows pro and exactly that was my point in the post  Shocked
i run all storage apps on xfs and in some special cases on zfs.

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August 27, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
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Can't buy coins, I still have 0.8 BTC tied up in CRYPT coin, waiting for it to rise.  I have told the developers how I will trash Mindfox, The Greasy Greek from Greece's name on any coin he works on if I don't get my 0.8 BTC back and they should just pay me off to keep me quiet, but they are still considering my offer.

I can mine only.  Selling off a few of my GPUs to finance hard drives.


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August 27, 2014, 07:16:49 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2014, 08:39:35 PM by timk225
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If I had 4 hard drives of 3TB or 4TB capacity, can I use the tools in Windows Disk Management to span them all into one large volume?  It'll take longer to plot them but I don't want tons of windows open, it'll be confusing.  And I'm just too lazy and don't want to have to keep track of multiple miners on one PC.  I'd rather have as few miner instances as possible.

In Windows 7 64 bit, with a seperate drive for the OS, how do I need to set up the drives to work as a 12-16 TB single drive?  Standard NTFS format will work to 16 TB?
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August 27, 2014, 07:17:45 PM
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... do i loose too much by using vm?! ...
normally you only loose up to 5% cpu but the storage may be slowed down if you plot onto a virtual disk.
if you mine onto a usb disk format it on windows with ntfs and mount it within you vm and plot onto it.
after the plotting is done you can unmount it and attach it directly to the windows host.

ok 5% is less than i thought ... nice ... using usb drive that way is a great idea ... thx!
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August 27, 2014, 07:18:58 PM
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We need the pool v2 as quickly as possible because for the moment all the blocks goes to the same hands (people have lot TB)
Thank you for returning fairer BUSRT for all the miners! For it pool v2 is essential!!

Thanks
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August 27, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
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Can't buy coins, I still have 0.8 BTC tied up in CRYPT coin, waiting for it to rise.  I have told the developers how I will trash Mindfox, The Greasy Greek from Greece's name on any coin he works on if I don't get my 0.8 BTC back and they should just pay me off to keep me quiet, but they are still considering my offer.

I can mine only.  Selling off a few of my GPUs to finance hard drives.



most of my playmoney is tied up in mcxnow feeshares since last december. i could have sold them for about 25 btc but kept them.
hope for some magic to happen there.
for now i also can only mine coins and i have a good feeling that burst becomes huge.

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August 27, 2014, 07:24:59 PM
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the issue i see with windows is that ntfs only supports 2tb volumes and if someone supplies a gpu miner for windows people start to cry they cant partition their usb3 disk into one volume.


Thats not true... NTFS can go to 16tb on 4k cluster size, with 64k cluster, you get 256tb

I think you may be referring to the 2tb MBR partition limit. Use GPT partition (vista and higher), the limit is 16 exabytes.

GPT volume is way better in scaling compared to MBR. NTFS file system is ok, but EXT3/EXT4 is more efficient.
i still tried to setup a larger raid0 volume over 4 spans before burst and ran into trouble on windows7.
just made the volume 2tb and it worked but i am no windows pro and exactly that was my point in the post  Shocked
i run all storage apps on xfs and in some special cases on zfs.

ZFS is robust in FreeBSD environment. I use it in my FreeNAS server and it that can be used for mining via network drive, but I keep it for my backups and DLNA server. Plex server is pretty good in FreeNAS.

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August 27, 2014, 07:25:26 PM
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I like to announce:

The Plot-generator rewritten in C!

It has several advantages over the one written in Java:
- About twice as fast
- Support for larger stagger sizes, only limited by system memory
- More efficient memory handling. With just 3GB you can use Stagger size 8191, with 8GB 24000 is possible. Plots with larger stagger sizes are better, as they require less disk seeks to be read.

You need a 64bit Linux environment to run this. Maybe someone can port it to Windows?

How to run it:
Download, unpack (tar -xzf plotgenerator.tgz), compile (make)

Then use the same command line options as with the Java-generator:

Code:
./plot <key> <starting nonce> <nonces> <stagger size> <threads>

You can download it here:
https://bchain.info/plotgenerator.tgz

Can I specify a folder to generate? for example another disk?
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August 27, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
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so what is most everybody doing now?  Pool mining or Solo?  Ive heard mixed opinions some say if you dont have at least 4tb+ then its best to pool mine and others say 2tb+.  What does the community say?

Now probably 4TB and up for solo, anything below should be pool mined. Just waiting for the dev to make pool v2 to use the solo plots for pool mining.

Im at 8 TB. Nothing in 24 hours.

I would say 10 TB or more

More likely, I haven't got anything for 48 hours with ~3tb. Hope the v2 pool comes out today.

Will it be posted in the OP when released?  I definitely do not wanna have to replot lol
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August 27, 2014, 07:27:40 PM
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We need the pool v2 as quickly as possible because for the moment all the blocks goes to the same hands (people have lot TB)
Thank you for returning fairer BUSRT for all the miners! For it pool v2 is essential!!

Thanks
pool v2 is important but i think if people with multi terrabyte move to the pool the payout gets lower for small miners than its currently.

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August 27, 2014, 07:28:30 PM
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somebody is really buying burst on c-cex from what i can see
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August 27, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
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somebody is really buying burst on c-cex from what i can see

prices are still extremely low, it's a great time to buy, I would probably buy if I had any extra cash that I wasn't throwing at hard drives. lol



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August 27, 2014, 07:35:38 PM
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somebody is really buying burst on c-cex from what i can see
yep prices are starting to take off

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