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August 22, 2014, 09:08:57 PM
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When will people learn that all ICOs are failures. The only people that score with ICOs are the dev team that in the end will have a bag of BTC and the investors will be bagholders of worthless coins.

ICOs fail because the dev teams do not understand the basic principle that in altcoin crypto 95% of investors are in it for short term profit and do not care about any long term plans. After the initial rise the price dumps and gradually goes down. Secondly, altcoin crypto is not far off from running a business. Once this second principle is understood, a coin will be successful. Most coin devs do not have the experience of running a company and do not understand principles like gearing, R&D, marketing, growth, strategy etc.

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Why do investors have expect people  buy it at the  more expensive price?
Is stupid   Cheesy

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 #882

When will people learn that all ICOs are failures. The only people that score with ICOs are the dev team that in the end will have a bag of BTC and the investors will be bagholders of worthless coins.

ICOs fail because the dev teams do not understand the basic principle that in altcoin crypto 95% of investors are in it for short term profit and do not care about any long term plans. After the initial rise the price dumps and gradually goes down. Secondly, altcoin crypto is not far off from running a business. Once this second principle is understood, a coin will be successful. Most coin devs do not have the experience of running a company and do not understand principles like gearing, R&D, marketing, growth, strategy etc.

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3.5 million coins for a week on sale in the 10000 Satoshi
Why do investors have expect people  buy it at the  more expensive price?
Is stupid   Cheesy

Thats history already. price is 50 percent down. Seems not to be expensive anymore.going forward this might be an opportunity.
Smart guys like you will know what will happen of course only after.
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August 22, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
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When will people learn that all ICOs are failures. The only people that score with ICOs are the dev team that in the end will have a bag of BTC and the investors will be bagholders of worthless coins.

ICOs fail because the dev teams do not understand the basic principle that in altcoin crypto 95% of investors are in it for short term profit and do not care about any long term plans. After the initial rise the price dumps and gradually goes down. Secondly, altcoin crypto is not far off from running a business. Once this second principle is understood, a coin will be successful. Most coin devs do not have the experience of running a company and do not understand principles like gearing, R&D, marketing, growth, strategy etc.

+++1

3.5 million coins for a week on sale in the 10000 Satoshi
Why do investors have expect people  buy it at the  more expensive price?
Is stupid   Cheesy

Its a good question  Wink I would not call them investors. They are speculators hoping to make quick, large gains.
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August 22, 2014, 09:30:52 PM
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This is not Pump & Dump coin. It is for the Long term. Look at the great plans and technology of this project


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August 22, 2014, 09:35:53 PM
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everyone got screwed over with this coin... if u want to help its very simple.. remove your sell orders!! too much sell pressure plus the dump isn't giving ppl confidence that theres a demand for this coin... if the sell side was thin and there weren't much coins for sale it would change ppls perception Wink

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August 22, 2014, 09:38:20 PM
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When will people learn that all ICOs are failures. The only people that score with ICOs are the dev team that in the end will have a bag of BTC and the investors will be bagholders of worthless coins.

ICOs fail because the dev teams do not understand the basic principle that in altcoin crypto 95% of investors are in it for short term profit and do not care about any long term plans. After the initial rise the price dumps and gradually goes down. Secondly, altcoin crypto is not far off from running a business. Once this second principle is understood, a coin will be successful. Most coin devs do not have the experience of running a company and do not understand principles like gearing, R&D, marketing, growth, strategy etc.

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3.5 million coins for a week on sale in the 10000 Satoshi
Why do investors have expect people  buy it at the  more expensive price?
Is stupid   Cheesy

Its a good question  Wink I would not call them investors. They are speculators hoping to make quick, large gains.


ICO was profitable when it was new idea Grin Grin Grin

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everyone got screwed over with this coin... if u want to help its very simple.. remove your sell orders!! too much sell pressure plus the dump isn't giving ppl confidence that theres a demand for this coin... if the sell side was thin and there weren't much coins for sale it would change ppls perception Wink

thats just my opinion...man...


actually this is good opinion Cheesy

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August 22, 2014, 09:49:10 PM
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I'm curious who're the people holding those 10+ btc piles of Cluster
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August 22, 2014, 10:46:21 PM
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DEV only posts when something is fulfilled that gets him closer to bittrex's terms escrow'd 300btc. Mac wallet boom his on here... block explorer boom... anything else he completly ignores.
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August 22, 2014, 10:49:30 PM
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I think if this turns out to be a scam Bittrex is complacent in it .

Dev will now sit on his aas till he gets the btc, then he will have 2-3 weeks of stalling to run with the money.





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August 22, 2014, 10:49:59 PM
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I'm curious who're the people holding those 10+ btc piles of Cluster

People much smarter than you or I. I don't believe that the person who bought 42BTC worth of cluster in the Ico (all in one go) would be content to see his 42 BTC turn into 24BTC. There is NO way he would take that loss with his $20,000. People are playing longer games than most, and I think we will see something happen. Volume has only been 100 BTC since launch, probably only the same 20% of coins are being sold and moved. That leaves 80% of coins held or 280BTC at Ico prices. Syscoin eventually returned to ICO prices, and I believe this coin will too.

Regarding the dev, he is not getting involved in games of trading and price fud wars. Whether that incriminates him, or makes him just a developer not a speculator, both options mean that there is no short term confidence in a price rebound.

Essex: all I can say to you is that if you care about a negative reputation for your coin, irregardless of whether you want to get involved in fud wars, people need to feel like you aren't just fulfilling terms of the Ico to run off with the 350BTC. Syscoin developers had an enormous involvement in the community when fud got bad, and they turned that around so everyone is positive about the coin. Remember. People who bought the ICO were investors in your company/product. Investors ALWAYS need reassurance Smiley

120,000 USD can change a man, so if you DO plan on cashing in, I can understand lol.
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http://whatmine.com/coin/888/ClusterCoin-CLSTR-SHA256-Profitability has ages to go untill  block 13000 for coins gets hit


I believe the Plan is actually to keep everyone bag holding at ICO price

while they dump buy low and resell to either bag holders trying to lower their entry price or new investors after cheaper coins

their have been plenty of 20% rise and falls now for who ever that bought at ICO could have exited in profit by now ...

I wish I stuck to my original plan , I had buys set below 6k range unfortunately I bought 100x more coin at ICO price ...

哈哈哈,骗子和套疯了的聚在一起,很多都是国人,干脆用国语吧。
撤卖单?呵呵,你是x5过来的吧?一个币靠撤卖单就能上去?
几个垃圾除了骂和说别人是fud,还能说点别的不?说这币有技术?笑话,白皮书就是技术?shield当时也弄白皮书,一堆人说shield好牛逼,结果呢?就这dev,指望他有技术?他的发言净是些乞讨和无聊的东西,根本就是刷出来的号。
套了瞅准机会还是能脱身的,可好几个人直接成骗子的帮凶
还不如齐心协力要求bittrex退款呢,呵呵

Ha ha ha, crazy liar and sets together, a lot of people are simply Mandarin bar.
Withdrawal of sell orders? Oh, you are x5 over, right? A single currency by the withdrawal can sell up?
In addition to several garbage curse and say that someone is fud, but also to say something else does not? That this coin has a technology? Joke, the White Paper is the technology? shield was also to get the White Paper, a good bunch of people say shield regressed, the result? In this dev, expect him to have technology? His statement is net some begging and boring stuff, simply brush out of numbers.
Still be able to set up aimed at the opportunity to get out of, several people can directly into the crook of accomplice
Might as well work together to require bittrex refund, huh, huh
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哈哈哈,骗子和套疯了的聚在一起,很多都是国人,干脆用国语吧。
撤卖单?呵呵,你是x5过来的吧?一个币靠撤卖单就能上去?
几个垃圾除了骂和说别人是fud,还能说点别的不?说这币有技术?笑话,白皮书就是技术?shield当时也弄白皮书,一堆人说shield好牛逼,结果呢?就这dev,指望他有技术?他的发言净是些乞讨和无聊的东西,根本就是刷出来的号。
套了瞅准机会还是能脱身的,可好几个人直接成骗子的帮凶
还不如齐心协力要求bittrex退款呢,呵呵

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August 22, 2014, 11:24:05 PM
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I dont think at this point Bittrex would do a refund. But we may be able to ask them to extend the escrow till the 1st verifiable "test" is in about 3 weeks.

If dev delivers this, then it is not a scam, if they cant it is a scam and refund everyone.





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August 22, 2014, 11:28:11 PM
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Actually if Dev is honest and not a money hungry scammer, he would request Bittrex to wait till he does the first test to get the BTC.





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August 22, 2014, 11:29:06 PM
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Price rising! Holders raise your buy orders!

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August 22, 2014, 11:31:24 PM
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Price rising! Holders raise your buy orders!

Less than 1 BTC worth of buy order...it is a small bump...





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August 22, 2014, 11:39:29 PM
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in op spec info are not changed, it isnt 7.000.000
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August 22, 2014, 11:41:32 PM
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Actually if Dev is honest and not a money hungry scammer, he would request Bittrex to wait till he does the first test to get the BTC.
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This would restore investor confidence and kill the fudding.





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August 22, 2014, 11:42:04 PM
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Is Proof-of-Developer still going to happen? Shouldn't it have happened before ICO?
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